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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2010 22:29:48 GMT -5
Where are all the 1.1 jokes? Come on you guys are creative figure a way and let em have it. They still got a 1.1, they just decided randomly to round it to the nearest 1.38?
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Post by jakemcclain on Jan 29, 2010 22:34:54 GMT -5
I'll be honest. I don't know what to think. The Wrestling Fan in me is happy that TNA is getting some good ratings for the young talent there and the fact there may finally be competition The TNA Fan in me who's been so disgusted with the past few weeks wants to see nothing but failure and ratings of 0.7 or less because the last thing I want to see is more Jordan, Nasties, Screwjobs. I knew there are people rooting for failure here. Least you are honest. How about WATCH and see what happens. I bet the Nastys don't have too much longer left, Orlando Jordan really isn't that bad, and the old guys aren't making any dents in the product. How about root for Hogan to succeed and get TNA #1? This can happen if Vince keeps getting lackadaisical.
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Post by Lazy peon on Jan 29, 2010 22:40:53 GMT -5
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Post by Krimzon on Jan 30, 2010 0:26:36 GMT -5
I'll be honest. I don't know what to think. The Wrestling Fan in me is happy that TNA is getting some good ratings for the young talent there and the fact there may finally be competition The TNA Fan in me who's been so disgusted with the past few weeks wants to see nothing but failure and ratings of 0.7 or less because the last thing I want to see is more Jordan, Nasties, Screwjobs. I knew there are people rooting for failure here. Least you are honest. How about WATCH and see what happens. I bet the Nastys don't have too much longer left, Orlando Jordan really isn't that bad, and the old guys aren't making any dents in the product. How about root for Hogan to succeed and get TNA #1? This can happen if Vince keeps getting lackadaisical. No it can't. The WWE is THE #1 wrestling company in the world. It's name is synonymous with pro wrestling everywhere. The WWE can go to 6 out of the 7 continents and sell the place out overnight. If Vince accepted ice as payment, then it'd be all 7. I don't see TNA doing that. Not for a looooooooooooooooooooong time, at least.
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Post by jakemcclain on Jan 30, 2010 0:48:56 GMT -5
WWE has been #1 because it had no competition at all. Before TNA called Hogan, it wasn't even a pimple on Vince's ass.
Now TNA has WWE's attention, and it's shaking the conglomerate a bit.
Will TNA take over WWE's perch? Not for a while, no. But the E puts on some major league boring television, and they are very lackadaisical in their approach. TNA is following this with good storylines, and top notch matches week after week, short or not.
Honestly, WWE is too top heavy. They are not even close to pushing anyone else to be stars, outside of Ted Dibiase. Kofi Kingston goes into a program with Orton and gets stomped like a roach. Evan Bourne gets stomped by just about everyone every single week. Jericho's a fantastic heel, but he loses too damned much. When Taker and Shawn retire, and when HHH does in about 3-4 years, they haven't built too many people to take that spot. Sheamus sure as hell isn't long term, and you can't have a five year program with Ted Dibiase and Randy Orton. Every time the E has had a real boom, their rosters have always been top notch. Their roster in the attitude era was swank, and good show after good show followed too.
Now TNA, small as it may be, has a MUCH MUCH better roster. Tremendous main eventers, solid mid-carders, a great X-Division, and even curtain jerkers are top notch. Give this time, and they can make Vince's life hell if he's not careful.
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Post by donners on Jan 30, 2010 1:08:17 GMT -5
WWE has been #1 because it had no competition at all. Before TNA called Hogan, it wasn't even a pimple on Vince's ass. Now TNA has WWE's attention, and it's shaking the conglomerate a bit. Let's put this in perspective. TNA got a rating about 0.3 higher than WWE's fourth-string show which has been around about a year. TNA is not even on the map in PPV buys and DVD sales or, most crucially, brand awareness. Top notch is a stretch. I don't think I've seen one outstanding match from TNA this year, let alone week after week. Good storylines? Even more of a stretch. Look at the yo-yo personality of Jarrett over the last month. The ludicrous rehash of an event from another company, and its apparently pointless end. What other "good" storylines are there? The firing of Lashley? Hall & Waltman's attacks? The Nasty Boys v 3D? Who are the main eventers now? Styles, Angle, Joe... Anyone else? Daniels has been dropped back to the midcard or below. Sting is nowhere to be seen and was very much on the decline. Anderson - has he put on a great match in his life? Wolfe? The X Divison barely exists on Impact. They seem to live on Xplosion these days. Don't get me wrong, I infinitely prefer TNA over WWE, but all this talk of having them scared and being genuine competition strikes me as completely without foundation.
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Post by comahan on Jan 30, 2010 1:14:18 GMT -5
WWE has been #1 because it had no competition at all. Before TNA called Hogan, it wasn't even a pimple on Vince's ass. Now TNA has WWE's attention, and it's shaking the conglomerate a bit. Let's put this in perspective. TNA got a rating about 0.3 higher than WWE's fourth-string show which has been around about a year. TNA is not even on the map in PPV buys and DVD sales or, most crucially, brand awareness. Their 4th string show outdraws their 3rd string show
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Post by Clarence "Showstealer" Mason on Jan 30, 2010 1:22:44 GMT -5
I'll be honest. I don't know what to think. The Wrestling Fan in me is happy that TNA is getting some good ratings for the young talent there and the fact there may finally be competition The TNA Fan in me who's been so disgusted with the past few weeks wants to see nothing but failure and ratings of 0.7 or less because the last thing I want to see is more Jordan, Nasties, Screwjobs. I knew there are people rooting for failure here. Least you are honest. How about WATCH and see what happens. I bet the Nastys don't have too much longer left, Orlando Jordan really isn't that bad, and the old guys aren't making any dents in the product. How about root for Hogan to succeed and get TNA #1? This can happen if Vince keeps getting lackadaisical. I'm not going to get into a flame war, you're entitled to your opinion. I don't root for Hogan and those old names to succeed in TNA for the same reason I actively wanted them to fail in WCW during the whole New Blood angle, I'm sick of that way of wrestling and so far nothing Hogan or Bischoff has shown me suggests their "New Vision" for TNA is anything other than WCW 2.0. I'm not saying I want to TNA to die, just fail to the extent that even Dixie the Dunce can see what a moronic f***ing idea it is. It's difficult to explain as I've said I'm torn. The wrestling fan wants TNA to succeed. The TNA fan doesn't want them to succeed THIS way.
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Post by jakemcclain on Jan 30, 2010 1:27:05 GMT -5
Then you don't deserve to watch a successful product........PERIOD!
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Post by Error on Jan 30, 2010 1:44:14 GMT -5
Then you don't deserve to watch a successful product........PERIOD! You need to chill out now.
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Post by The F'N Captain on Jan 30, 2010 2:29:31 GMT -5
Then you don't deserve to watch a successful product........PERIOD! I understand it it's like if the Simpson's had an AWESOMELY funny show, and then the writing credits listed "Adolph Hitler" as a writer. You'd be happy the Simpson's were funny, but hating yourself because Hitler was the writer. Sure, sure Hogan's not anywhere near Hitler or anything, but I con understand wanting something to succeede but not like HOW it's going about it.
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Post by Janitor From Mars on Jan 30, 2010 2:56:54 GMT -5
Where are all the 1.1 jokes? Come on you guys are creative figure a way and let em have it. Hopefully this is sarcasm because there's been enough TNA bashing for weeks.
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Jan 30, 2010 3:49:33 GMT -5
A 1.38 isn't their rating. All the maniacs know that's what registered on the Richter Scale after Hogan slammed Andre to his death.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Jan 30, 2010 3:50:03 GMT -5
Let's put this in perspective. TNA got a rating about 0.3 higher than WWE's fourth-string show which has been around about a year. TNA is not even on the map in PPV buys and DVD sales or, most crucially, brand awareness. Their 4th string show outdraws their 3rd string show I know, even though I like ECW, I don't know whether I should feel bad for them getting outrated by Superstars or laugh at it
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Jan 30, 2010 4:11:24 GMT -5
Good for TNA.
Still don't really care for the product since I hated everything since the Jan 4th show, but still it's good to see them showing progress ratings wise.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 30, 2010 4:55:05 GMT -5
I know TNA is a private company but does anyone know what their recent ppv buyrates are? It will be interesting if the numbers are rising from the usual benchmark of 20,000 buys. Good for them breaking their usual ratings but is their overall business getting better?
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Post by Clarence "Showstealer" Mason on Jan 30, 2010 4:55:57 GMT -5
Then you don't deserve to watch a successful product........PERIOD! I understand it it's like if the Simpson's had an AWESOMELY funny show, and then the writing credits listed "Adolph Hitler" as a writer. You'd be happy the Simpson's were funny, but hating yourself because Hitler was the writer. Sure, sure Hogan's not anywhere near Hitler or anything, but I con understand wanting something to succeede but not like HOW it's going about it. That's pretty much it. I want TNA to succeed, just not this way
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Post by Spudz on Jan 30, 2010 5:03:46 GMT -5
While the rating is up.. which is good, what has not been mention is last week's show actually had more viewers by a small amount than this week's show.
Last week's show had about 1.93 million viewers watching according to Torch..while PWInsider said this week show had 1.867 million viewers.
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Post by donners on Jan 30, 2010 5:40:09 GMT -5
I understand it it's like if the Simpson's had an AWESOMELY funny show, and then the writing credits listed "Adolph Hitler" as a writer. You'd be happy the Simpson's were funny, but hating yourself because Hitler was the writer. Sure, sure Hogan's not anywhere near Hitler or anything, but I con understand wanting something to succeede but not like HOW it's going about it. Well, no, it's not like that at all, and that's not what the person originally quoted was saying. That person was saying that they hated the new direction of the show, but wanted it to succeed for the people who had been there for years. Try this analogy. It's like a show you really enjoy that is reasonably obscure, let's say Early Edition, which is taken over by a big name, let's say David E Kelly. Then instead of the lovely, feel-good show you once had, it's a flashy, empty show filled with references to the new writer's old shows and populated by his favourite actors, who push aside those who have been with the show for years. What's more, he makes snide references in the show to episodes before he took over. It might be more popular due to his big name, but is it the show you once loved? And can you learn to love the new show?
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Post by Ryushinku on Jan 30, 2010 5:43:03 GMT -5
Just coming here to mention that, it's the only thing that struck me as a bit of surprise in a negative way.
Getting a 1.38, I'd have expected them to break the 2 million viewer mark. They didn't, and they actually got fewer viewers than the past two weeks of 1.26 ratings.
Just as well the put the viewer figures up as well with all these Nielsen ratings. Sometimes they tell a deeper story.
Not that TNA will care a jot, their share was the highest Thursday Impact to date so go with that. 1.867 million for Impact is still one of their best.
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