Heels that were WRONG.

[thuschongswing]

Since there are a lot of topics about heels being technically correct, I thought I'd make something to oppose it. The topic is simple, let's talk about some of the heels who were mostly unjustified in their actions, and did what they did just for the sake of being a dick. Or, guys who may have had a point, and even a GOOD one at that, but went way overboard to the point where they just looked like a bitter asshole who needed to be slapped.

One example is Rey Mysterio/Eddie Guerrero (RIP). Okay, Eddie, we get it, you can't beat Rey Mysterio in a one on one match. So why does that require you to give Rey a brainbuster on the steel steps and tell him that his son Dominic is actually YOURS? (although to be fair, the latter was more bad booking than anything, and the point where the angle jumped the shark)

Also, there were TONS of forgettable, half-ass heel turns in this manner that were stupidly executed and booked, so we should mostly forget about those. I'm talking about the more famous and notable turns in history.

[Cela]

Angle, Beastiality, Sharmell.

[Ultimo Chocula]

Shawn Michaels throwing Jannetty through the barbershop window. I don't care who you are, that's a dick move.

[Cretinous Humanoid]

Nov 29, 2009 17:28:25 GMT -5 Ultimo Chocula said:

Shawn Michaels throwing Jannetty through the barbershop window. I don't care who you are, that's a dick move.

What were you watching? Jannetty jumped through that window trying to get away.

[big nasty]

rick rude - just because think your hot and have a great build doesnt mean you have to be a jerk about it.

[Slingshot Suplay]

Undertaker trying to embalm Steve Austin.

[brutuscheesecake]

Undertaker trying to kill Ultimate Warrior by stuffing him in a casket

[Bob Schlapowitz]

Heels are NEVER wrong [/smark]

[Clash, Never a Meter Maid]

Jesse Ventura during the Cena/Sheamus contract signing.

Wait, hear me out. The WWE canon officially recognizes the mixed reactions that Cena gets in certain towns (and to be honest, a lot of his polarization seems to be itself somewhat manufactured lately). Going by that, Jesse's claim that Cena is the "ideal go along to get along champion" doesn't have a lot of basis in truth, because even his current incarnation doesn't do much kissing up to authority figures- or at least not as much as CM Punk does with Mr. McMahon.

[J is Justice]

Nov 29, 2009 17:31:56 GMT -5 Cretinous Humanoid said:

Nov 29, 2009 17:28:25 GMT -5 Ultimo Chocula said:

Shawn Michaels throwing Jannetty through the barbershop window. I don't care who you are, that's a dick move.

What were you watching? Jannetty jumped through that window trying to get away.

Will you stop!

[MolotovMocktail]

Nov 29, 2009 20:17:44 GMT -5 J is Justice said:

Nov 29, 2009 17:31:56 GMT -5 Cretinous Humanoid said:

What were you watching? Jannetty jumped through that window trying to get away.

ARE YOU BLIND?!?

Fixed for accuracy.

[Alexander The So-so]

Back in the height of the nWo invasion in WCW, Hall and Nash would often outright lie by saying they had beat opponents when they undoubtably didn't. The Steiner Brothers, for example, would decisively pin them at a PPV or an episode of Nitro, and on the next episode of Nitro, Hall would come out on the mic and basically briefly drop a "yeah, we beat the Steiners last week."

Scott Hall talked about it in his RF Video shoot and talked about how well it worked at just plain pissing off fans. He said he picked it up from Kevin Sullivan's heel-booking philosophy, which basically says that, hey, let's face it: heels lie. So whenever he'd say something like that, marks would be yelling at the TV "NO YOU DIDN'T!!! I SAW, YOU GOT PINNED!!!!!" and he'd done his job.

A pretty different take on heel dynamics from the "the heel must always, absolutely believe that he's right" philosophy that people like Mick Foley used, eh?

[Nacho STAYS Hyped]

Kane in 2004.

[Mayonnaise]

Nov 29, 2009 20:09:28 GMT -5 Clash, Never a Meter Maid said:

Jesse Ventura during the Cena/Sheamus contract signing.

Wait, hear me out. The WWE canon officially recognizes the mixed reactions that Cena gets in certain towns (and to be honest, a lot of his polarization seems to be itself somewhat manufactured lately). Going by that, Jesse's claim that Cena is the "ideal go along to get along champion" doesn't have a lot of basis in truth, because even his current incarnation doesn't do much kissing up to authority figures- or at least not as much as CM Punk does with Mr. McMahon.

He was really saying that Cena is the perfect corporate guy and, he really is. He doesn't do anything heelish, he does everything they ask of him and, is all smiles. He's the new Rocky Miavia. He is not a trouble causer or anything like Jesse was.

[h]

Jerry Lawler played the heel very well in his feud with Bret Hart. Everything about his actions was wrong and...well, heelish.

[lildude8218]

Nov 29, 2009 20:09:28 GMT -5 Clash, Never a Meter Maid said:

Jesse Ventura during the Cena/Sheamus contract signing.

Wait, hear me out. The WWE canon officially recognizes the mixed reactions that Cena gets in certain towns (and to be honest, a lot of his polarization seems to be itself somewhat manufactured lately). Going by that, Jesse's claim that Cena is the "ideal go along to get along champion" doesn't have a lot of basis in truth, because even his current incarnation doesn't do much kissing up to authority figures- or at least not as much as CM Punk does with Mr. McMahon.

He was also wrong about never getting a title shot. Guess we should ignore those matches he had with Backlund.

Nov 29, 2009 21:11:02 GMT -5 Alexander The So-so said:

Back in the height of the nWo invasion in WCW, Hall and Nash would often outright lie by saying they had beat opponents when they undoubtably didn't. The Steiner Brothers, for example, would decisively pin them at a PPV or an episode of Nitro, and on the next episode of Nitro, Hall would come out on the mic and basically briefly drop a "yeah, we beat the Steiners last week."

Scott Hall talked about it in his RF Video shoot and talked about how well it worked at just plain pissing off fans. He said he picked it up from Kevin Sullivan's heel-booking philosophy, which basically says that, hey, let's face it: heels lie. So whenever he'd say something like that, marks would be yelling at the TV "NO YOU DIDN'T!!! I SAW, YOU GOT PINNED!!!!!" and he'd done his job.

A pretty different take on heel dynamics from the "the heel must always, absolutely believe that he's right" philosophy that people like Mick Foley used, eh?

People on here were pissed about this when Chris Masters would say no one had broken the Masterlock after it had been broken. No one quite "got it."

[Nacho STAYS Hyped]

Nov 29, 2009 21:58:59 GMT -5 lildude8218 said:

Nov 29, 2009 20:09:28 GMT -5 Clash, Never a Meter Maid said:

Jesse Ventura during the Cena/Sheamus contract signing.

Wait, hear me out. The WWE canon officially recognizes the mixed reactions that Cena gets in certain towns (and to be honest, a lot of his polarization seems to be itself somewhat manufactured lately). Going by that, Jesse's claim that Cena is the "ideal go along to get along champion" doesn't have a lot of basis in truth, because even his current incarnation doesn't do much kissing up to authority figures- or at least not as much as CM Punk does with Mr. McMahon.

He was also wrong about never getting a title shot. Guess we should ignore those matches he had with Backlund.

He wrestled Hogan for the title a few times in '84 and '85 as well.

[Triple Kelly]

Hogan Vs. Sid at the Royal Rumble '92.

How DARE Sid look out for himself and eliminate Hulk! INEXCUSABLE!

[bob]

Carlito hiring Jesus to stab John Cena in the kidney was wrong

[wildojinx]

Nov 29, 2009 21:58:50 GMT -5 h said:

Jerry Lawler played the heel very well in his feud with Bret Hart. Everything about his actions was wrong and...well, heelish.

Unless you were watching the shows in Memphis, where Lawler was totally in the right.