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Post by dlg3000 on Mar 8, 2010 12:54:33 GMT -5
Who else thinks the Undertaker is underrated as far as in ring skill?
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Post by Piccolo on Mar 8, 2010 13:25:41 GMT -5
Do people rate him badly? I almost never hear criticism of him.
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Post by The Tank on Mar 8, 2010 13:28:06 GMT -5
People haven't been rating him badly until this/last year, and that's only because he just hasn't been the same since returning from injury last year.
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Post by dlg3000 on Mar 8, 2010 13:57:41 GMT -5
In the day and age of workrate, some people may think that the Undertaker is still quite limited compared to Y2J or an AJ Styles. Some may dare say that he is not as good as they are because he doesn't have "THE WORKRATE" because of his moveset. That is why people need to be careful in defining what a good wrestler is. Some people may have one definition of a good wrestler that others would disagree with. For example, the Undertaker and John Cena don't have 50+ moves to their repoirtore, but that doesn't make them bad wrestlers in my eyes. Others say that they need to expand their moveset and improve as wrestlers. That is all.
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Post by Psy on Mar 8, 2010 14:00:07 GMT -5
Who else thinks the Undertaker is underrated as far as in ring skill? I am not a fair judge of the Undertaker's in-ring ability since I really can't get into any of his matches, his many "character changes" have destroyed my ability to suspend my disbelief when he's in the ring. That said, I seriously doubt he'd have the huge drawing power that he retains today if he wasn't still good in the ring.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Mar 8, 2010 14:28:40 GMT -5
In his prime, yeah, I'd argue that he was underrated because the whole "undead" gimmick limited a lot of what he could actually do, but as it stands now, as a guy who can barely walk? Nah, I think he's right where he deserves to be ranked.
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Post by DASH 243✅ on Mar 8, 2010 15:07:07 GMT -5
In his prime, yeah, I'd argue that he was underrated because the whole "undead" gimmick limited a lot of what he could actually do, but as it stands now, as a guy who can barely walk? Nah, I think he's right where he deserves to be ranked. Agreed in his prime he was pretty good. He could sell a big boot better than anyone.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Mar 8, 2010 15:39:35 GMT -5
He's actually gotten much better over the years. Despite being obviously worn down physically, his matches have become more versatile through adding submissions like his armbar and Hell's Gate.
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Post by jamielowndes {N} on Mar 8, 2010 15:47:10 GMT -5
While he is still doing the suicide dive over the top rope, he has my respect, even though they f***ed it up at WM25, its still the most badass thing in WWE. THe best ones ever were in the Inferno match with Kane, and against Batista at WM23.
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Post by Datalore on Mar 8, 2010 16:26:23 GMT -5
He was never "bad" in the ring, but nothing special in my opinion. He makes up for it with what he's contributed to the sport.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2010 20:38:54 GMT -5
He's great. One thing to keep in mind: I defy you to find someone as big as he is doing the sheer number of submissions, high flying moves, and high impact moves that he does at his age.
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Post by Free Hat on Mar 8, 2010 20:46:01 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure his ring skills have been highly regarded since at least the mid to late 90s, so no I don't think he's underrated at all.
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Post by -Lithium- on Mar 8, 2010 21:28:50 GMT -5
Hes been pretty good since he returned in 2000. Started getting really good around 2005 or so.
Before 2000, meh...
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Mar 8, 2010 22:46:06 GMT -5
He's been having great matches for the majority of the second half of his career, except when he had to carry someone like Khali or Henry. During the first half, he was paired with guys like that on a regular basis, the reason being "one's big and the other's supposed to be undead. This'll make a great angle."
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Post by boomhauer20055 on Mar 8, 2010 23:36:32 GMT -5
His entrances are the best part of his matches
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Post by barley96 on Mar 9, 2010 0:38:15 GMT -5
One has to be thought of badly to be underated. I rarely hear criticism about The Undertaker.
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