TuneinTokyo
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Post by TuneinTokyo on Dec 27, 2009 11:53:47 GMT -5
I understand having World Heavyweight Champ and some lighter division champ, like a cruiser weight champ or I.C. even though I don't know what the hell intercontinental means. How is that different from World, but what I never understood was what the hell a TV champion was. Likewise was it really necessary to have a six man tag belt. How many 3 man teams are there.
And how come women get a belt but the midgets don't?
I need belt answers becuase it's really starting to piss me off.
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Post by neal on Dec 27, 2009 12:09:13 GMT -5
Here's one way the tv belts in the past were properly used...problem is, most promotions never stuck to the ground rules. But in theory, the tv title idea makes sense. So here goes...
Back in the territory days, the world champion (whether it was the NWA, AWA or WWWF titles) would rarely if ever wrestle on tv, and even rarer defend the world title on tv. So, to please the fans watching at home while keeping the world title "special" and worth paying money to go to the matches to see defended, some promotions created tv championships. The intent of these tv titles was to have a title that would be defended every week on tv (and only on tv) and it served a double purpose of showcasing a wrestler who may not be a top draw but could always deliver a quality match for tv. Sometimes the tv title could help propel a wrestler to a larger role (much like the I-C title was used in the WWWF).
Over the years, with the tv title being mishandled, the idea became a joke.
Used properly, and only in the context of keeping the world title defenses off tv, it works. But with every belt of any promotion being defended on free tv nowadays, it makes little sense.
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Post by thereallybigshow on Dec 27, 2009 12:10:43 GMT -5
Here's one way the tv belts in the past were properly used...problem is, most promotions never stuck to the ground rules. But in theory, the tv title idea makes sense. So here goes... Back in the territory days, the world champion (whether it was the NWA, AWA or WWWF titles) would rarely if ever wrestle on tv, and even rarer defend the world title on tv. So, to please the fans watching at home while keeping the world title "special" and worth paying money to go to the matches to see defended, some promotions created tv championships. The intent of these tv titles was to have a title that would be defended every week on tv (and only on tv) and it served a double purpose of showcasing a wrestler who may not be a top draw but could always deliver a quality match for tv. Sometimes the tv title could help propel a wrestler to a larger role (much like the I-C title was used in the WWWF). Over the years, with the tv title being mishandled, the idea became a joke. Used properly, and only in the context of keeping the world title defenses off tv, it works. But with every belt of any promotion being defended on free tv nowadays, it makes little sense. QFT |
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Post by neal on Dec 27, 2009 12:33:52 GMT -5
Having blathered all that, some of my all time favorite belts have been TV belts. Here's a few... NWA TV title - absolutely gorgeous  UWF TV title  TBS TV title   AWA International TV title  Mid-Atlantic TV title  ECW TV title  My own TV title  |
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Dec 27, 2009 12:42:51 GMT -5
6 Man belts had two purposes. One was for faction/stable feuds, a la Von Erichs vs Freebirds. The other was a way of keeping a big name featured while they weren't in the singles titles hunt. Teaming them up with an established tag gave the tag a good rub and kept the singles guy busy.
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Post by chunkylover53 on Dec 27, 2009 13:11:45 GMT -5
In WCW in the later years, with their stacked roster, I saw it as a stepping stone to the United States Championship, kinda like the European to the IC title.
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Post by italliansausagepat on Dec 27, 2009 13:15:13 GMT -5
And I always like the 10-15 minute time limit that made chicken shit heel's retain there belts.
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Post by BitterAF on Dec 27, 2009 15:22:44 GMT -5
The NWA TV title looks soooo nice.
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Post by noleafclover1980 on Dec 27, 2009 15:30:45 GMT -5
Hey, it led to a great series of matches between Booker T and Chris Benoit, so, it was worth it.
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Post by Lionheart on Dec 27, 2009 15:31:34 GMT -5
The NWA TV title looks soooo nice. The WCW television title, on the other hand, has to be the cheesiest, cheapest, most cartoon-looking piece of shit I've ever laid eyes on. |
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Post by SAJ Forth on Dec 27, 2009 16:54:53 GMT -5
What's sad is it never got a proper WCW logo.
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Post by neal on Dec 27, 2009 16:56:47 GMT -5
What's sad is it never got a proper WCW logo. Which version? They had more than one. Are you talking about the one Booker T held, or the one Arn Anderson held? |
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Post by SAJ Forth on Dec 27, 2009 16:59:28 GMT -5
What's sad is it never got a proper WCW logo. Which version? They had more than one. Are you talking about the one Booker T held, or the one Arn Anderson held? Booker. I liked The NWA at the top of Arn's. |
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Post by neal on Dec 27, 2009 17:05:39 GMT -5
Which version? They had more than one. Are you talking about the one Booker T held, or the one Arn Anderson held? Booker. I liked The NWA at the top of Arn's. Okay, I should have said the version William Regal held since he never held the NWA version. To clarify - The first WCW tv belt  The last WCW tv belt  |
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Post by neal on Dec 27, 2009 17:14:36 GMT -5
Going back and looking at the thread title, it crossed my mind that it could have been confused for a thread about a championship for transvestites. I don't know if there would be a big enough market for that, but who can tell.
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Post by floundertime on Dec 27, 2009 18:41:19 GMT -5
Going back and looking at the thread title, it crossed my mind that it could have been confused for a thread about a championship for transvestites. I don't know if there would be a big enough market for that, but who can tell. Hey if there is a demand for a looney tunes title, there might be a demand for a transvestites title. Granted, I have no demand for it and will not be watching those matches. But lets be honest.....Chyna is the champ right??? |
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Post by Porky's Butthole on Dec 27, 2009 18:41:23 GMT -5
I don't know what the hell intercontinental means. The prefix inter- means among or between. This prefix often indicates some kind of a connection between things. Intercontinental. The second half of that word is Continental. Like the continent of North America. Therefore, the IC title means that it is intended among or between the continent. It's on par with the United States title, because the United States is *between* the other countries in the *continent*. Got it? |
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Post by neal on Dec 27, 2009 19:01:20 GMT -5
Going back and looking at the thread title, it crossed my mind that it could have been confused for a thread about a championship for transvestites. I don't know if there would be a big enough market for that, but who can tell. Hey if there is a demand for a looney tunes title, there might be a demand for a transvestites title. Granted, I have no demand for it and will not be watching those matches. But lets be honest.....Chyna is the champ right??? Naw, Nicole Bass. |
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Post by Lionheart on Dec 27, 2009 19:06:36 GMT -5
Going back and looking at the thread title, it crossed my mind that it could have been confused for a thread about a championship for transvestites. I don't know if there would be a big enough market for that, but who can tell. In the circles I travel in, the acronym "TV" means "television." Always. |
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Post by neal on Dec 27, 2009 19:15:15 GMT -5
And how come women get a belt but the midgets don't? There have been a few midget titles. Little Tokyo held one during the 1980's. It looked just like a regular wrestling belt, only smaller. Here's a more recent midget title belt. I have no idea who made it.  |
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