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Post by rrm15 on Dec 30, 2009 21:15:57 GMT -5
Random question, but ideally how long should a wrestler train before making their debut? And how much experience should they have before getting a shot on the big stage?
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Post by Chiral on Dec 30, 2009 21:22:48 GMT -5
I think the amount of time Jericho did seemed to work. I don't have an exact number, but his book covers all of it.
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Post by Tyfo on Dec 30, 2009 22:33:32 GMT -5
Just depends, some people it comes more natural to then others. So it really depends on the person as far as how long before your actual debut match in front of people.
As for getting a shot at the big stage, in my ideal fantasy world I would say someone should have worked the indy scene and internationally for at least 2 and a half to 3 years (not including training, I mean from debut match onward) before consideration, but of course that's not how it works.
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Post by Franchise on Dec 30, 2009 22:39:41 GMT -5
The general rule is 6 months from starting training to their first match. That's not to say they're going to stop training after that, but...
Wrestling is an art form that isn't learned overnight. My trainer has told me he didn't understand psychology fully until a year after his first match. You don't ever really stop learning.
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Post by Phil Parent on Dec 30, 2009 22:46:39 GMT -5
6 months before you wrestle in paint-by-number matches, and then you learn your whole career.
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Post by Lair of the Shadow MaDaBa on Dec 31, 2009 0:16:02 GMT -5
When you absolutely, positively know for a fact that you're ready, you're not even halfway done with your training.
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Post by héad.casé on Dec 31, 2009 4:26:59 GMT -5
Depends, my closest friend started training for two months and has worked shows ever since, getting bookings for a fed that we affiliate ourselves with too, and I was training 6 months before I got on my first show, and that was a Battle Royal.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Dec 31, 2009 9:05:06 GMT -5
Well for normal folks I would say you need at least six months but probably more. If you're Kurt Angle, like a month.
But it's true, you never stop learning.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 10:15:07 GMT -5
Id say atleast 6 months to get used to the body language and safety precautions...in all honesty though as a wrestler you never really stop training...
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 31, 2009 14:20:35 GMT -5
Technically, you train until the end of your career- but before your first match, you should at least have developed some acting skill (the lifeblood of wrestling, IMO), and also be able to give and take moves without hurting yourself or your opponent.
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Post by Madman Szalinski on Jan 2, 2010 5:19:00 GMT -5
I've heard Angle only trained for a WEEK before they put him in there with Christian in a dark match or some kind of training match. A WEEK. I was lucky if I could throw a worked punch after a week. (I trained for 3-4 months back in 2004.)
Honestly, though, it really does depend on the person. And this really could be said when you train or learn anything: if you can do what you're being asked to do then you're ready. But the difference between wrestling and anything is in order to be able to do what you're being asked to do, you not only have to physically know the art and craft, but you must be mentally sharp to know when to do what and more importantly why you're doing what you're doing (and why you're not doing what you might have thought of doing but didn't do.)
How long does it take to learn what to do, when to do it, and why to do it?
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Jan 2, 2010 5:52:10 GMT -5
Six months is the general rule before you should even consider taking bookings. Anything under that is just asking for someone to get hurt. And you shouldn't stop training just because you start taking bookings.
Also, generally you don't do bumps for 2-3 weeks. When Punk was training the ROH school, he didn't let the kids take bumps for the first 6 weeks, concentrating on getting in shape an d weeding out the bad apples.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Jan 2, 2010 7:08:19 GMT -5
It could take 3 weeks or 6 months it all depends on your determination and how natural you could be
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Post by Jay Peas 42 on Jan 2, 2010 11:33:24 GMT -5
I think the question is better phrased as "How long should a otherwise untrained wrestler spend in Wrestling School/ basic training before they start taking bookings."
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Post by rrm15 on Jan 2, 2010 21:52:35 GMT -5
I think the question is better phrased as "How long should a otherwise untrained wrestler spend in Wrestling School/ basic training before they start taking bookings." Yeah but that was too long for the title. ;D
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Jan 4, 2010 1:48:33 GMT -5
When I was training I was on course to get in there in about four months training twice a week. Athletically I was very natural and took bumps pretty good for someone weighing 170 pounds at the time. Cardio wise I was(and still am) in great shape and could run the ropes really well.
The only hang ups I kind of had was the chain wrestling. It is a lot harder than it looks even if you have seen it a million times.
I stopped training after like two months because the company was going out of business. I might have kept going but I'm not sure. Today I have very little interest of ever trying it again because I just don't want to sacrifice my body and old age for something I have a very little chance in making it in.
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