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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Apr 20, 2010 0:32:50 GMT -5
I am just now getting around to watching this week's Raw (up to the Swagger/Taker match), but I noticed that the crowd was pretty dead for the Hardy/McIntire match. Granted, Drew is a black hole of charisma that sucks the life out of any crowd that he is exposed to, but part of the problem is the booking. Obviously, they are trying to run a continuing concussion angle between Matt and Drew, but is not all that obvious. This angle has gone on for weeks, but they have yet to do a single backstage segment where They point out that Matt has suffered a concussion that he is only making worse with his "I will not die" attitude. Maybe they will do this for this week's SD, but so far the fans cannot get behind it because of a lack of simple follow-through.
Granted, I know that many people are not going to care since it is just a Matt Hardy angle, but the fact of the matter is that they want to get Drew over. The problem is that they are not really trying, simply expcting him to make it happen on his own, I suppose. I almost think that they simply expect Matt to get him over by jobbing to him so often, but without explaining WHY Matt keeps losing you are simply making himout to be a loser. In that case, how is anyone supposed to get anyone else over like that?
The thing is, Drew is certainly not the only victim of this lazy booking on WWE's part. He just happened to be the one freshest in my mind because I just saw his match.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Apr 20, 2010 0:37:19 GMT -5
OK, just saw Swagger lose again. Granted, losing to Taker or Orton is not a horrible deal, but how is he supposed to get over when he jobs in all his singles matches, wins the title off an injured guy, and his only recent win came in a triple threat match where he was the only one to NOT hit his finisher.
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Post by Arturo Classico on Apr 20, 2010 0:45:34 GMT -5
OK, just saw Swagger lose again. Granted, losing to Taker or Orton is not a horrible deal, but how is he supposed to get over when he jobs in all his singles matches, wins the title off an injured guy, and his only recent win came in a triple threat match where he was the only one to NOT hit his finisher. Like I said for awhile Swagger sucks and isn't interesting. Like Benoit said "Prove me wrong, Jack Swagger", "Prove me wrong!" |
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Post by Alex Shelley on Apr 20, 2010 1:27:28 GMT -5
Wait, Matt Hardy has a concussion?
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Post by The F'N Captain on Apr 20, 2010 1:29:30 GMT -5
WWE doesn't care about Matt Hardy.
*Mike Myers double take*
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Post by Rorschach on Apr 20, 2010 2:11:58 GMT -5
I figured there'd be a lot more outrage over Swagger losing tonight than what I've seen so far. Even to me, a person who is most definitely NOT a Swagger fan....that was a stupid booking move. Your young, up and coming champion has a title defense in six days....what does it hurt the freakin' UNDERTAKER to lose to him, even if it MUST be by devious means?
This was a match that even the most idiotic booker would have given to Swagger, to up his heat going into EXTREME RULES.
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Post by Schattenjager on Apr 20, 2010 2:42:01 GMT -5
Wait, what? A concussion angle, really? After everything that has happened in the past few years, the WWE is actually booking a concussion angle? What the f***? Hvae they actually mentioned the word "concussion" on TV? This is pretty tasteless, if true.
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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on Apr 20, 2010 2:59:31 GMT -5
I figured there'd be a lot more outrage over Swagger losing tonight than what I've seen so far. Even to me, a person who is most definitely NOT a Swagger fan....that was a stupid booking move. Your young, up and coming champion has a title defense in six days....what does it hurt the freakin' UNDERTAKER to lose to him, even if it MUST be by devious means? This was a match that even the most idiotic booker would have given to Swagger, to up his heat going into EXTREME RULES. I agree totally. If 'Taker was able to put over Kozlov cleanly on TV, surely he could've done the same for Swagger. I understand that its a "rare treat", as Cole reminded us 67 times, to see him on television, but he could've at least gave the WHC a rub heading into the title defence. Then again, nothing was right for me on RAW. I'm actually looking forward to seeing how much better TNA's show was, because it actually sounds decent this week. |
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Post by luiscurse on Apr 20, 2010 3:14:52 GMT -5
First Matt has a concussion, then he bows out of his contract due to personal problems, appears in TNA a few months later, I've seen this Angle before.  |
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Apr 20, 2010 9:20:40 GMT -5
Wait, what? A concussion angle, really? After everything that has happened in the past few years, the WWE is actually booking a concussion angle? What the f***? Hvae they actually mentioned the word "concussion" on TV? This is pretty tasteless, if true. They have not used the word yet, though Cole did suggest that last night's match was won 2 weeks ago when Drew followed up banging Matt's head to the ring supports with the Future Shock on the floor. Honestly, they could salvage this angle at least (Swagger would need to go on a winning streak of great proportions to salvage his push). Let's say at tonight's NXT taping Matt suffers a kick to the head from Regal before they have a match and they continue the angle. They then can have Teddy Long do a segment with him near the top of Smackdown where Teddy says that it is obvious that Matt is hurt and not taking care of himslf, so until he gets a Doctor's clearing he is listed as inactive. Matt can talk Teddy into letting Gabriel fill in for him. Later that night Gabriel loses to Drew with Matt at ringside. As Matt is helping Gabriel up Drew attacks him and drags him out of the ring to Future Shock him on the ramp. The following week near the top of the broadcast Gabriel can appear in Teddy's office to ask Teddy to find a way to help talk some sense into Matt. At that point it will be revealed that Drew got Vince to overturn Matt's inactive status and book them in a match together again, and Gabriel is worried because he cannot talk Matt into backing down. From that point on they can put over Drew's bloodthirsty and callous nature and Matt's refusal to ever back down no matter what. Hell, it might actually help out Drew's stalling heel heat. |
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Post by elryc on Apr 20, 2010 12:00:28 GMT -5
I figured there'd be a lot more outrage over Swagger losing tonight than what I've seen so far. Even to me, a person who is most definitely NOT a Swagger fan....that was a stupid booking move. Your young, up and coming champion has a title defense in six days....what does it hurt the freakin' UNDERTAKER to lose to him, even if it MUST be by devious means? This was a match that even the most idiotic booker would have given to Swagger, to up his heat going into EXTREME RULES. I agree totally. If 'Taker was able to put over Kozlov cleanly on TV, surely he could've done the same for Swagger. I understand that its a "rare treat", as Cole reminded us 67 times, to see him on television, but he could've at least gave the WHC a rub heading into the title defence. Then again, nothing was right for me on RAW. I'm actually looking forward to seeing how much better TNA's show was, because it actually sounds decent this week. I think after they did this to Sheamus (put the belt on him, then job him out to any and all main eventers) people just can't care anymore when they do the same thing to Thwagger. |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 20, 2010 19:07:34 GMT -5
I am just now getting around to watching this week's Raw (up to the Swagger/Taker match), but I noticed that the crowd was pretty dead for the Hardy/McIntire match. Granted, Drew is a black hole of charisma that sucks the life out of any crowd that he is exposed to, but part of the problem is the booking. Obviously, they are trying to run a continuing concussion angle between Matt and Drew, but is not all that obvious. This angle has gone on for weeks, but they have yet to do a single backstage segment where They point out that Matt has suffered a concussion that he is only making worse with his "I will not die" attitude. Maybe they will do this for this week's SD, but so far the fans cannot get behind it because of a lack of simple follow-through. Granted, I know that many people are not going to care since it is just a Matt Hardy angle, but the fact of the matter is that they want to get Drew over. The problem is that they are not really trying, simply expcting him to make it happen on his own, I suppose. I almost think that they simply expect Matt to get him over by jobbing to him so often, but without explaining WHY Matt keeps losing you are simply making himout to be a loser. In that case, how is anyone supposed to get anyone else over like that? The thing is, Drew is certainly not the only victim of this lazy booking on WWE's part. He just happened to be the one freshest in my mind because I just saw his match. Actually, I think the whole POINT is to say "Look, people, Matt is a loser. Would you PLEASE stop caring about him? Because we sure as hell don't." It's worked with the IWC, at least. |
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Post by wrestlecrapcrap on Apr 20, 2010 19:49:46 GMT -5
I figured there'd be a lot more outrage over Swagger losing tonight than what I've seen so far. Even to me, a person who is most definitely NOT a Swagger fan....that was a stupid booking move. Your young, up and coming champion has a title defense in six days....what does it hurt the freakin' UNDERTAKER to lose to him, even if it MUST be by devious means? This was a match that even the most idiotic booker would have given to Swagger, to up his heat going into EXTREME RULES. It would massively hurt Taker to lose to Swagger, absolutely massively. WWE is pretty good with their follow through, they usually always make sure there's a video package or a 'Last week on...' clip to bring people up to date, and I'll bet one of the reasons Vince likes Cole is because of his ability to draw together all that has been happening in the WWE bubble to bring the viewers at home up to date. He does that brilliantly. They haven't done it for this angle yet maybe because they don't want to commit Drew to a feud with Matt, or maybe they are letting him target Matt for a couple of weeks first before having him make a point that he has done it. I say this because a few guys have been targetted before, and if it's only once, then it's just considered a high spot in a match - like when Morrison went head first into the metal part of the ring on Smackdown a couple months back. If they want to do the angle, they'll eventually have Matt come out and say no matter how malicious Drew tries to get, he will not die. If not, Drew will just move onto someone else after the draft. This may just be a mini program to fill time before it. |
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Apr 21, 2010 17:34:15 GMT -5
I figured there'd be a lot more outrage over Swagger losing tonight than what I've seen so far. Even to me, a person who is most definitely NOT a Swagger fan....that was a stupid booking move. Your young, up and coming champion has a title defense in six days....what does it hurt the freakin' UNDERTAKER to lose to him, even if it MUST be by devious means? This was a match that even the most idiotic booker would have given to Swagger, to up his heat going into EXTREME RULES. Not a Swagger fan, really quite unfamiliar with him other than what I've seen the past few months, but I totally agree with you. Taker doesn't need the win to put him over, Swagger does. A clean win over Taker would have given him some solid legitimacy. |
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Post by I Like Your Poetry on Apr 21, 2010 17:38:01 GMT -5
Matt Hardy should use the concussion to completely change his whole image.
He gets amnesia, forgets who he is, finally gets a new haircut for the first time in over 15 years, and maybe a heel turn.
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Post by waluigi on Apr 21, 2010 18:19:01 GMT -5
I figured there'd be a lot more outrage over Swagger losing tonight than what I've seen so far. Even to me, a person who is most definitely NOT a Swagger fan....that was a stupid booking move. Your young, up and coming champion has a title defense in six days....what does it hurt the freakin' UNDERTAKER to lose to him, even if it MUST be by devious means? This was a match that even the most idiotic booker would have given to Swagger, to up his heat going into EXTREME RULES. It would massively hurt Taker to lose to Swagger, absolutely massively. nonsense... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2010 18:26:00 GMT -5
Undertaker cannot be hurt by anything, at this point. Well, except walking out his front door or moving too quickly for the remote, but I mean from a character standpoint.
As for McIntyre, I'm kind of starting to wonder if anything short of injury or losing his standing in the back is going to make them give up on him. He's, what, seven months into a major push and still absolutely nobody reacts to him?
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Post by waluigi on Apr 21, 2010 18:28:42 GMT -5
Undertaker cannot be hurt by anything, at this point. Well, except walking out his front door or moving too quickly for the remote, but I mean from a character standpoint. SMH @ the injury proneness jokes, but you're right. Undertaker's beaten the best in the industry, that anybody could think he'd be devalued by a loss to a midcarder is insanity |
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