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Post by Michael Coello on Jul 21, 2010 14:23:25 GMT -5
I disagree with the Critic on the notion that his reviews are all publicity for the movies. None of his reviews really make me wanna rush out and buy any of the movies to watch.
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Post by wildojinx on Jul 21, 2010 14:25:48 GMT -5
I disagree with the Critic on the notion that his reviews are all publicity for the movies. None of his reviews really make me wanna rush out and buy any of the movies to watch. He did make me want to see Brazil after seeing it on his top 20 films (though that wasnt an NC review technically).
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Post by Alex Shelley on Jul 21, 2010 14:37:35 GMT -5
I disagree with the Critic on the notion that his reviews are all publicity for the movies. None of his reviews really make me wanna rush out and buy any of the movies to watch. If you're a fan of terrible movies, like I am (and like many, many of the fans of the whole TGWTG site are), then that review absolutely made me want to rush out and watch The Room.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jul 21, 2010 15:47:42 GMT -5
I disagree with the Critic on the notion that his reviews are all publicity for the movies. None of his reviews really make me wanna rush out and buy any of the movies to watch. If you're a fan of terrible movies, like I am (and like many, many of the fans of the whole TGWTG site are), then that review absolutely made me want to rush out and watch The Room. But I'm referring to the point he made about the other studios who's pictures he reviewed appreciating the free publicity for it. Stuff liked Barb Wire or Biodome or the Tom & Jerry Movie or any of those reviews don't make me want to rush out and buy the DVD. I get the Room, mostly cause it was something the fans wanted to see reviewed and emailed him about it. Everything else, though, not really.
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Post by Red Impact on Jul 21, 2010 16:29:22 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't see the free publicity argument that much unless the review was positive at the end. Especially since most of what he reviews is pretty well-known stuff.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 21, 2010 16:32:51 GMT -5
Yeah, I highly doubt that's the point of 99% of his stuff. The point is that he reviews bad stuff 'so you don't have to'.
Like I'm not even saying that Wiseau is right in this at all but to suddenly fall behind 'It's Publicity' after ripping into a tonne of movies and calling them bad seems a tad short sighted.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Jul 21, 2010 16:38:09 GMT -5
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Post by Red Impact on Jul 21, 2010 16:40:36 GMT -5
Oh, Wiseau's totally wrong about it, it's clearly fair use. Free publicity just isn't a great argument to pull up.
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Post by The Big J-Sizzle on Jul 21, 2010 17:32:50 GMT -5
I took this post from the comments on TGWTG. There is some valid points as to why Doug should not have done this.
"The thing that get's the critic in trouble is the insinuation that they won't do anything. I do agree with NC, but I don't think that he is on the right side of the issue here. the MPAA is going to back Wiseau, and that is going to cause trouble for Blip.tv users everywhere. Does Doug not see what he is doing, it's not just about him but posters all over the web, being challenged by this. Now Yourube has stricter guidelines, waht about blip? Waht about my desire to use "free rights" publicity clauses? What about his site? If this causes a backlash, he's back to illustrating textbooks or whatever he did before the site made enough money. Not to mention, this is his job now. not just some jokes for fun anymore, he has to think about protecting his business too. I'm surprised Mike Michaud hasn't said anything to him about the wisdom of his decisions in this matter. Also, I think they set up a fake Tommy Wiseau Twitter, if not just followiing one, and with that posted on the site, Libel, Slander, Infringement, name and likeness, fraud... Oh man, but this could be entertaining too. i just hope he doesn't set fire to his house of straws."
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Post by Red Impact on Jul 21, 2010 19:13:47 GMT -5
I took this post from the comments on TGWTG. There is some valid points as to why Doug should not have done this. "The thing that get's the critic in trouble is the insinuation that they won't do anything. I do agree with NC, but I don't think that he is on the right side of the issue here. the MPAA is going to back Wiseau, and that is going to cause trouble for Blip.tv users everywhere. Does Doug not see what he is doing, it's not just about him but posters all over the web, being challenged by this. Now Yourube has stricter guidelines, waht about blip? Waht about my desire to use "free rights" publicity clauses? What about his site? If this causes a backlash, he's back to illustrating textbooks or whatever he did before the site made enough money. Not to mention, this is his job now. not just some jokes for fun anymore, he has to think about protecting his business too. I'm surprised Mike Michaud hasn't said anything to him about the wisdom of his decisions in this matter. Also, I think they set up a fake Tommy Wiseau Twitter, if not just followiing one, and with that posted on the site, Libel, Slander, Infringement, name and likeness, fraud... Oh man, but this could be entertaining too. i just hope he doesn't set fire to his house of straws." Long story short, and without getting political, the MPAA may or may not be on Wiseau's side (if they'd even return his calls), but the courts' precedent seems to show heavily on the other side. His use likely falls under Fair Use. His portrayal of him is parody, as well. Also Fair Use.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jul 21, 2010 19:31:37 GMT -5
Libel/slander/etc also has a really high bar set for it.
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Post by The poster with no name on Jul 21, 2010 19:52:59 GMT -5
Critic and Weird Al vs Tommy Wiseau and Coolio Wrestlemania 27!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Alex Shelley on Jul 21, 2010 20:05:47 GMT -5
Russo should turn this saga into a wrestling storyline.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jul 21, 2010 20:25:35 GMT -5
That's right, John from theroommovie.com...eat that money. You've earned it.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 21, 2010 20:52:18 GMT -5
That was pretty petty, and worse unfunny. I woulda way preferred he went the classier route, and just said something briefly at the front of his next review explaining the situation calmly.. hell he could mug mockingly at the end and then move on.
This was just kinda lame.
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Post by wildojinx on Jul 21, 2010 21:30:33 GMT -5
Critic and Weird Al vs Tommy Wiseau and Coolio Wrestlemania 27!!!!!!!!!!!!!! With Larry Flynt as the special referee
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Post by mysterydriver on Jul 21, 2010 21:48:01 GMT -5
That...wasn't funny.
And that's as far as I'll go into this conversation.
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Post by thatguybayne on Jul 21, 2010 21:59:04 GMT -5
Personally I think this is a deliberate attempt to create a Streisand effect. I'm sure more people saw these reviews after he had them pulled than normally would have. No his awful 7 year old movie which only makes money from people appreciating it ironically is back in the spotlight. Either way Tommy Wiseau wins.
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Post by Bravo Echo November on Jul 21, 2010 23:36:50 GMT -5
I am a huge fan of NC's work and I support him in this debate, but that video was very petty and unprofessional. Don't get me wrong, if I was in NC's position I would be furious as well, but in times like these you must be the bigger man and just walk away. If anything, just joke about it like in his Bum Review of Inception.
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Jul 21, 2010 23:43:35 GMT -5
Well, it doesn't look like we're getting an actual review this week, because lord knows we needed a petty video instead. Thanks Doug.
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