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Post by Cyborg Franky on Jul 20, 2010 17:29:17 GMT -5
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Jul 20, 2010 17:40:19 GMT -5
Wonder if this will be taken down too
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Jul 20, 2010 17:40:46 GMT -5
Wonder if this will be taken down too Honestly, it won't shock me. |
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Post by Cyborg Franky on Jul 20, 2010 17:43:14 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surpise as well, if it get taken down as well. But damn this video made me die laughing.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jul 20, 2010 19:36:29 GMT -5
Well, that was mildly amusing. And insanely petty, just like what Wiseau Studios did. A temper tantrum probably wasn't the best way for either party to deal with things
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Jul 20, 2010 19:42:08 GMT -5
"You're tearing me apart Critic!"
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Post by ellisdee on Jul 20, 2010 19:43:47 GMT -5
I think it's great that he's not just backing down and removing the review without a fight. Critic is right really, it's a review and he can use the clips how he wants.
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Post by Alex Shelley on Jul 20, 2010 19:48:21 GMT -5
As an artist who very strongly supports copyright laws and tends to side with the artist (such as Tommy) in copyright issues, I gotta say that the Critic is completely correct.
Satire and reviews have every legal right in the world to use footage, especially considering that they weren't directly profiting from it.
The documentary This Film is Not Yet Rated is the best example of this. From the Wiki:
"This Film Is Not Yet Rated uses clips from several films to illustrate its criticisms of the MPAA ratings board. Dick had originally planned to license these clips from their studio owners but discovered that studio licensing agreements would have prohibited him from using this material to criticize the entertainment industry. This prompted him to invoke the fair use doctrine, which permits free use of copyrighted material to provide analysis and criticism of published works.[1][2]. The film's success has spurred interest in fair use, especially amongst other documentary filmmakers[3]"
From the Fair Use Wiki:
"Fair use is a doctrine in United States copyright law that allows limited use of copyrighted material without requiring permission from the rights holders, such as for commentary, criticism, news reporting, research, teaching or scholarship. It provides for the legal, non-licensed citation or incorporation of copyrighted material in another author's work under a four-factor balancing test."
So, unfortunately Channel Awesome may end up having to defend what they do, but they'd more than likely win... Which, regardless of sucking, would end up being a very good thing for internet reviewers.
EDIT: Scratch that last part, apparently fair use is done entirely case-by-case, so precedent wouldn't matter for crap. :B
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Post by invaderdave on Jul 20, 2010 19:52:31 GMT -5
So uh...this was nice and all, but is this all he's putting up today?
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Jul 20, 2010 19:55:58 GMT -5
Old Vs New: War of the Worlds is scheduled for tonight. But considering their situation, and that they're far from letting go of it...
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jul 20, 2010 20:00:19 GMT -5
I should say, that I agree with Doug standing his ground against Wiseau Studios as he's totally in the right. It's just this seems so petty to me, it's like 2 kids on a playground:
Kid 1 (WS)- You can't play with that toy!!!
Kid 2 (NC)- Yes I can, I'm allowed to!!!
Kid 1- Nope, I'm telling teacher you stole it from me!!!
Kid 2- Yeah, well..... YOU'RE A DOODOO HEAD!!!!
Seriously, find another way to air your grievance with them. I would have greatly preferred Doug just telling his side of the story in a written update personally.
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Post by Lair of the Shadow MaDaBa on Jul 20, 2010 20:01:53 GMT -5
Well, hold on--if Critic is permitted to use the footage and air the review...why, then, was it taken down?
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Jul 20, 2010 20:10:52 GMT -5
I should say, that I agree with Doug standing his ground against Wiseau Studios as he's totally in the right. It's just this seems so petty to me, it's like 2 kids on a playground: Kid 1 (WS)- You can't play with that toy!!! Kid 2 (NC)- Yes I can, I'm allowed to!!! Kid 1- Nope, I'm telling teacher you stole it from me!!! Kid 2- Yeah, well..... YOU'RE A DOODOO HEAD!!!! Seriously, find another way to air your grievance with them. I would have greatly preferred Doug just telling his side of the story in a written update personally. It annoys me more that they waited a week to give anybody a valid explaination. |
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Post by Kruton on Jul 20, 2010 20:16:17 GMT -5
Poor John from theroommovie.com. He just wanted to do a good job.
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Post by Alex Shelley on Jul 20, 2010 20:16:41 GMT -5
Well, hold on--if Critic is permitted to use the footage and air the review...why, then, was it taken down? From my understanding, they have to prove that the reviews done were within the law. So, while they were permitted to do it, they have to prove it to a court. |
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Jul 20, 2010 20:19:38 GMT -5
Well, hold on--if Critic is permitted to use the footage and air the review...why, then, was it taken down? From my understanding, they have to prove that the reviews done were within the law. So, while they were permitted to do it, they have to prove it to a court. I think the biggest problem is the fact that through Blip and their site, they are technically making money from the movie. So I could understand if someone was a bit upset at someone making money from their movie, shitty as it may be. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 20, 2010 20:20:16 GMT -5
I should say, that I agree with Doug standing his ground against Wiseau Studios as he's totally in the right. It's just this seems so petty to me, it's like 2 kids on a playground: Kid 1 (WS)- You can't play with that toy!!! Kid 2 (NC)- Yes I can, I'm allowed to!!! Kid 1- Nope, I'm telling teacher you stole it from me!!! Kid 2- Yeah, well..... YOU'RE A DOODOO HEAD!!!! Seriously, find another way to air your grievance with them. I would have greatly preferred Doug just telling his side of the story in a written update personally. You haven't been on the internet, have you?  To be serious, I haven't watched alot of ThatGuy stuff lately (I have my reasons and I'll probably not watch this either) but this seems like a thing they would do. Rather than trying to do something that puts them in a good light, trying to be controversial for the sake of hits, no matter the quality (which happens to actually be one of my reasons). |
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Post by Alexander The So-so on Jul 20, 2010 20:21:56 GMT -5
Hit the nail on the head.
Really, Wisaeu Studios is shooting themselves in the foot as far as appealing to the mass market. Critic's review provided them with free publicity across a huge spectrum of the Internet, which could've translated into increased DVD sales and mainstream attention for their movie. But now that they're making a big stink and coming across like copyright Nazis, they're shooting themselves in the foot and looking like a bunch of babies. That'll tarnish their image, and turn off people's desire to give them money through buying their movies. Basically, they're nullifying any good that could've come out for them from the review through their actions.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jul 20, 2010 20:23:58 GMT -5
I should say, that I agree with Doug standing his ground against Wiseau Studios as he's totally in the right. It's just this seems so petty to me, it's like 2 kids on a playground: Kid 1 (WS)- You can't play with that toy!!! Kid 2 (NC)- Yes I can, I'm allowed to!!! Kid 1- Nope, I'm telling teacher you stole it from me!!! Kid 2- Yeah, well..... YOU'RE A DOODOO HEAD!!!! Seriously, find another way to air your grievance with them. I would have greatly preferred Doug just telling his side of the story in a written update personally. You haven't been on the internet, have you? To be serious, I haven't watched alot of ThatGuy stuff lately (I have my reasons and I'll probably not watch this either) but this seems like a thing they would do. Rather than trying to do something that puts them in a good light, trying to be controversial for the sake of hits, no matter the quality (which happens to actually be one of my reasons). I geuss Wiseau is lucky his last name wasn't Enus or something.... |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 20, 2010 20:27:02 GMT -5
You haven't been on the internet, have you? To be serious, I haven't watched alot of ThatGuy stuff lately (I have my reasons and I'll probably not watch this either) but this seems like a thing they would do. Rather than trying to do something that puts them in a good light, trying to be controversial for the sake of hits, no matter the quality (which happens to actually be one of my reasons). I geuss Wiseau is lucky his last name wasn't Enus or something.... Or made jokes about a female basketball team... Yet!  |
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