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Post by Horatio Hammerlock on Mar 17, 2005 17:46:40 GMT -5
I posted this question on the "Rest of Wrestling" forum, but I thought it would be interesting to get RD's opinion on the topic as well...
Alright, I've read "Death of WCW" and plenty of other articles that paint Vince Russo in a very negative light. His non-sensical storylines, playing up to internet smarks, and general destruction of the legitimacy of various titles are all well-documented.
My question is this...what did he do right He wasn't just a smooth talking con man who managed to get high profile jobs in two of the biggest organizations in pro wrestling at the time, was he? Someone fill me in on some of his successes.
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Post by cenamaniac on Mar 17, 2005 18:36:57 GMT -5
Booking of Survivor Series 98. The matches were awful but having Rock winning the title and siding with Corporation was perfect. No one expected it.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Mar 17, 2005 22:41:36 GMT -5
WWE he did at lot of the attitude era during Austin big run on top. As for WCW very little was done. Maybe the push of Booker T maybe the biggest postive. If he can be given credit for that.
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Post by bionicelbow on Mar 22, 2005 20:00:18 GMT -5
he got out of the wrestling business.
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Post by The Masked Jobber on Mar 23, 2005 6:13:28 GMT -5
he got the Rock to start talking in the third person. Rock always mentions howhelpful Vince Russo was with him.
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Post by V3rtigo on Mar 23, 2005 6:25:33 GMT -5
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Post by rdreynolds on Mar 23, 2005 7:43:19 GMT -5
I'll just look to WCW, but his pushing of the young talent was absolutely critical. Now granted, he had no idea HOW to push that young talent, but he knew it had to be done. For that, you must give the guy credit.
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Post by WWHHHD on Mar 26, 2005 21:16:03 GMT -5
What he did right was take WCW's money and sellout to them. Also what he did right was convincing 92 percent of the world that he screwed hogan.
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Post by rustydhodes on Mar 27, 2005 9:01:53 GMT -5
1. He didn't kill anyone....
That we know of.
2. He finally helped to drive a stake through the heart of that flaming turd known as the WCW.
Even if it wasn't intentional.
3. He put Hogan in his place and poor Terry stormed off with his lunchbox and never came back to the "sandbox."
4. He left TNA and it's better for it.
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Post by Van Hagar on Mar 27, 2005 20:00:08 GMT -5
I'll just look to WCW, but his pushing of the young talent was absolutely critical. Now granted, he had no idea HOW to push that young talent, but he knew it had to be done. For that, you must give the guy credit. RD Then again, any 12 year old with internet access could figure that out. He did NOTHING right. Austin vs. McMahon? That was mostly booked by Austin and McMahon. I'm guessing the best parts by Austin and McMahon, then the worst by Russo. Mankind? Mick Foley's ideas. The Rock? All about the Rock's ideas. |
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Post by hellfire on Mar 28, 2005 1:46:17 GMT -5
The Hogan shoot at Bash at the Beach 2000 has to be my favorite WCW moment ever. I've watched that thousands of times. Then again Booker did lose to Kaynon earlier on the PPV then beat triple J for the title.
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Post by WWHHHD on Mar 28, 2005 1:52:58 GMT -5
The Hogan shoot at Bash at the Beach 2000 quote] This was a work between Hogan and Russo. And alls this did was stroke Hogan's ego even more when ratings went down when he was gone. |
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Post by hellfire on Mar 28, 2005 2:58:45 GMT -5
molonesr:
This was a work between Hogan and Russo. And alls this did was stroke Hogan's ego even more when ratings went down when he was gone.
that is the common thought but then why did Hogan sue Russo and WCW over what Russo said? Even though it was true. I heard it was a work but Hogan didn't like what Russo said so he sued. Which is more of a reason to hate Hogan.
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Post by WWHHHD on Mar 28, 2005 3:05:39 GMT -5
"Hulkamania will be running wild long after I'm gone Brother!"
Hulkamania runs through me and millions of others and it will never die!!
HOGAN HOGAN HOGAN!!!
You know you marked out when Hogan fought the Rock at Mania.
Don't Hate Hogan. Hate Bret Hart!!
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Post by rustydhodes on Mar 28, 2005 5:46:31 GMT -5
Kind of like cholera...  |
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Post by hellfire on Mar 28, 2005 14:36:37 GMT -5
The only time I even came close to marking for Hogan was when the nWo drove the semi through the ambalance that the Rock was in, in Chicago. But the truck did all the work so it doesn't count.
But when the Warrior beat Hogan at WM 6 that was the greatest day of my childhood.
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Post by ecwfan2010 on Apr 7, 2005 14:54:47 GMT -5
After WCW's demise Russo went to NWA:TNA and formed SEX (Sports Entertainment Xtreme). SEX Angle was turning point in TNA's evolution for being edgy but many of the wrestling fans thought SEX was nWo rip-off and the whole angle was dropped. I think the biggest contribution of Russo was to make AJ Styles look like a potential world champion by turning Styles heel and beating Jarrett for the NWA title. Russo actually has mind for the business but what he did in WCW was stupid and I think he learnt a lesson from it and his TNA stint was far better than I expected. ;D
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Post by The Masked Jobber on Apr 9, 2005 19:08:35 GMT -5
Hulkster is pretty much like a bad car wreck...
Its bad but.. you can't help but to stop and look...
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Post by WWHHHD on Apr 9, 2005 23:01:43 GMT -5
Love Hogan because without him you would be watching figure skating rather that wrestling.
Love Russo for making so many mistakes, that people can call him the dumbest man in wrestling history. And then Russo looks in his checking account and sees: T[glow=red,2,300]$$$$$$$$$$$[/glow]
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Post by AJ on Apr 10, 2005 15:46:43 GMT -5
...he had no idea HOW to push that young talent, but he knew it had to be done. For that, you must give the guy credit. RD I agree. Apart from that I can't really think of what he did right, apart from leaving the wrestling business. |
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