Who Used it First?

[gdm]

I have read somewhere that Davey Boy Smith was using the Sharpshooter long before Bret Hart and it brought a question to me.

Who really was the first person to use acertain move wether it be a finisher like a powerbomb or a simple Irish whip.

For example I know that Don Morocco used the tombstone (and it was even called a tombstone) long before the Undertaker made his debut.

Can you think of any others.

Someone has just given me footage of the first ever recorded powerbomb.

Here you go:

www.clickwrestle.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownloaddetails&lid=16&ttitle=Rikidozan%20vs.%20Lou%20Thesz

[crazyrose]

Bret's original finisher was the tombstone and then started using the sharpshooter during his WWF singles run. Sting was the first guy I saw to use it, but it's probably been around for awhile

my question is who was the first to use the chokeslam. which is one of those only in wrestling kinda moves. the first I saw to use it was Taker around 92

[KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!!]

Bret original finisher was the pile driver not the tombstone, but just a regular version. Didn't Rugged Ronnie Garvin or someone like that use the sharpshooter as well???

[Kyokuji]

I knew that Lou Thesz did the first powerbomb when he screwed up a piledriver, but I didn't know it was against Rikidozan.

[Mongo & Pepe: Back in Black]

I read somewhere fairly recently that Bret Hart saw Sting do the Scorpion Deathlock on TV and he asked someone to show him how to do it. I can't recall where I read that though.

[DASH 243✅]

I remember seeing old japanese tapes of dean malenko doing the crippler crossface

[THE Dinobot]

Sharpshooter - New Japan star Riki Choshu, and later on Hiroshi Hase were the first to do the move on a national base.

Choke Slam - Once again, the origin belongs to Japan, as Hirohi Wajima created said move.

[destrucity]

kamalabalboa said:

Bret original finisher was the pile driver not the tombstone, but just a regular version. Didn't Rugged Ronnie Garvin or someone like that use the sharpshooter as well???

Ronnie GArvin's finishing move was a puch to the head. He set up this puch by stomping on his opponent. He also had the charisma to match his technical finishing maneuvers. The fact Flair carried him to some great matches (which even Tully couldn't do) is another example of why Flair is the greatest

[EvilMasterBetty, Esq.]

dinobotbprime said:

Sharpshooter - New Japan star Riki Choshu, and later on Hiroshi Hase were the first to do the move on a national base.

I believe that both Sting and Hart learned the move from one of these guys (I thinkit was Choshu although I can't be sure) and it was just a coincidence that they both used it. Neither man was trying to copy the other.

[T.J. "the Crippler" Stevens]

kamalabalboa said:

Bret original finisher was the pile driver not the tombstone, but just a regular version. Didn't Rugged Ronnie Garvin or someone like that use the sharpshooter as well???

Garvin used the Sharpshooter durring his feud with Greg Valentine in the WWF. They called it the Reverse Figure Four Leg Lock when he did it. He made Valentine submit to it at a PPV too. I'm almost 100% certain it was Royal Rumble 90. Other than that he pretty much used the Garvin Stomp as his WWF finisher.

[superborracho6000]

evilmasterbetty said:

dinobotbprime said:

Sharpshooter - New Japan star Riki Choshu, and later on Hiroshi Hase were the first to do the move on a national base.

I believe that both Sting and Hart learned the move from one of these guys (I thinkit was Choshu although I can't be sure) and it was just a coincidence that they both used it. Neither man was trying to copy the other.

Believe it or not, Konnan taught Hart how to do the sharpshooter.

[Woooooolhouse!]

But on WWF TV, Owen Hart said he was the first to do the Sharpshooter! I don't know who to believe!

I wish I still had it, but one of the ol' Apter Mags put out a great special magazine where they looked at about 25 or so finishing moves, the history behind them, who was the first, best, etc. to use them. I bet it's still at my parents' house, unless she sold it with my baseball cards . . . and I had a Mark McGuire mint rookie in there, too!

[chrislatimer2005]

as someone as said i am sure it was k dog that tought hart the sharpshooter.

and did anyone do the tombstone earlier then the dynamite kid.

and did johhny ace invent the stunner i got told that ?

[crazyrose]

yup, the Ace Crusher was Johnny Ace's move before Autin started doing the stunner

seen here:
www.wrestlingencyclopedia.com/Moves/acecrusher.wmv

[theshriekingshiek]

On Wrestling With Shadows, Bret says him & Stu came up with it. But doubt thats true, after what's been said in the other posts