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Post by deeks on Mar 9, 2010 1:37:19 GMT -5
I thought it was brilliant. Scary that the same people that wrote the last two Impacts came up with it. Honestly the whole show seemed so much better than any Impact in recent memory.
One of the hardest things to do in wrestling is to turn Sting heel. It hasn't worked in the past. Nobody has really been able to do it till tonight.
The most famous attempt was many years ago in WCW when Sting turned heel on Hogan(history repeats itself?). Nobody bought it. Let's look at how different tonight was compared to then. WCW would have stopped at Sting turning on Hogan and Abyss. That would have been it at the end of Nitro with Tony Schiavone screaming OMG! This would have made his turn feel cold and flat. Since so many fans hate Hogan, Sting turning on him wouldn't put him over as a heel. But TNA followed up with Sting taking on a mystery opponent. RVD comes out and is over huge with the crowd. He shocks Sting and gets the win. So now Sting proceeds to beat the crap out of a guy the fans love. And it's not just a few hits, but a total burial. Then he goes after Hogan and security when they butt in. Killing RVD made a crowd boo Sting. Think about that.
When WCW tried to turn Sting they did it by him cheating to beat Hulk Hogan. It didn't work. TNA did it by Sting going crazy and beating the crap out of a debuting star. It worked. Kudos to TNA for doing what not many could pull off.
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Post by Crazy Diamond on Mar 9, 2010 1:54:03 GMT -5
Yeah, that was very impressive. It's one of the few times I've seen people turn on Sting like that. It looks like he's stopped talking too. I'm looking forward to him feuding with RVD.
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Post by darbus alan on Mar 9, 2010 2:02:56 GMT -5
We'll see how long this lasts, but bravo for being able to get Sting a HUGE heel reaction. This might just be the first Sting heel turn that actually works in the long run.
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Post by Janitor From Mars on Mar 9, 2010 2:40:25 GMT -5
Why do they feel the need to do this?
Sting's past his prime. What does he have to gain from a heel turn?
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Post by King Devitt and the Woke Mob on Mar 9, 2010 4:22:14 GMT -5
Why do they feel the need to do this? Sting's past his prime. What does he have to gain from a heel turn? it can garner a heel turn Sting hasn't done yet. a jealousy one. they can harken back to the "old days" when Sting was seen as THE man in WCW and Hogan came in and pulled the rug out from under him. now Hogan comes to TNA, Sting has been watching as Hulk gets the first class treatment and the "power" from Dixie herself. making Sting's years of contributions in TNA seem meaningless in comparison. it's why when Sting nailed Hogan and sneered/grinned i marked like a little kid. it looked believable, and Sting looked comfortable in the role. i just wish RVD had debuted a different way.
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Post by Snowman on Mar 9, 2010 9:14:22 GMT -5
Why do they feel the need to do this? Sting's past his prime. What does he have to gain from a heel turn? Well Hulk Hogan was past his prime in 1996, what did he have to gain from the heel turn at Bash at the beach?
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Post by poi zen rana on Mar 9, 2010 9:54:52 GMT -5
Sting has nothing to gain by turning heel. He has nothing to gain by even being a part of TNA. In my book Sting could retire yesterday or in ten years and either way he would be a legend. So no Sting has nothing to gain.
However TNA has alot to gain from Sting turning. Need proof? Look around at how much attention that is getting. People are interested.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2010 10:15:11 GMT -5
Sting has nothing to gain by turning heel. He has nothing to gain by even being a part of TNA. In my book Sting could retire yesterday or in ten years and either way he would be a legend. So no Sting has nothing to gain. However TNA has alot to gain from Sting turning. Need proof? Look around at how much attention that is getting. People are interested. Exactly. Sting's reputation and place among the legends is pretty much sealed. He can afford to do it. It's kind of like the old grizzled vet still playing in the minor leagues. He's done it all at the top level, now he's just in it for the fun and the good memories.
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Post by dpg on Mar 9, 2010 10:57:38 GMT -5
It was the only way to do it, having him attack RVD wasn't fair on RVD's debut but there was no other way to turn sting heel.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2010 11:08:18 GMT -5
I pretty much agree that the only way to turn Sting heel was to bring RVD for him to attack.
But that speaks a lot to the heel/face dynamic of TNA. If it takes bringing in an outside hire to play the face in a beat down to turn one of your stars heel, then you're switching people back & forth too much betwixt face and heel.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Mar 9, 2010 11:25:11 GMT -5
I reckon Sting right now to Heenan at Bash at the Beach 1996 argument about "ruining" the surprise, when in reality it was a great moment of continuity. Heenan hated Hogan. Never had a reason to trust him, was convinced he was a two-face and everyone would eventually see.
Sting spent years feuding with evil nWo Hogan, considers him a huge cancer... so why should Sting trust Hogan? Sting fears Hogan will do what he did to WCW.
It's a brilliant play to turn Sting heel because Sting is RIGHT in the situation. Hogan has a terrible track record of pushing talent, taking the spotlight off himself and inevitably destroying WCW. Why would you believe he's changed? Sting can play the justified heel role here and Hogan can play the face. Inevitably, you can turn Hogan heel and Sting face on a double turn with Sting being the one person who never bought into Hogan.
Plus, if heel Sting means Sting wrestles with the trench coat on... I'm all for it. Hell, just deck him out in the 97 ring clearing crow Sting.
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Mar 9, 2010 11:35:23 GMT -5
The only sure thing about Sting is nothings for sure.
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Post by deeks on Mar 9, 2010 13:26:18 GMT -5
The other thing it did was keep Sting vs. RVD for the PPV.
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Post by hajimenoippo on Mar 9, 2010 13:36:31 GMT -5
I think Sting paid security to not come after him for beating on rvd and to hold Hulk for free shots
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Post by Zombie Pig on Mar 9, 2010 13:53:59 GMT -5
I enjoyed Sting's crazy attacks last night, but I don't think he can work as a full heel. I'd book it something like this:
Next week have Flair and AJ jump Hogan, but when Sting comes out he destroys Flair with the bat and everyone is all confused. Later in the evening Sting cuts a promo putting down WWE and saying he doesn't need a ring to be a legend and the man he supports doesn't need a stupid ring to be great. Enter Joe, Pope or Wolfe as Sting's guy. Now everything is set for TNA's first big Monday night era feud.
Hogan/Abyss = Face
Flair/AJ = Heel
Sting/*Insert awesome TNA guy here* - Tweener
Over the next few months these teams feud over the title and sometimes just for blood.
Sting hating Hogan and Flair just makes sense because those are the guys he should trust the least (If we are not counting Lex Luger here)
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Mar 9, 2010 13:56:32 GMT -5
The other thing it did was keep Sting vs. RVD for the PPV. If they have that match at Lockdown which I'm going to I think I'll have to turn in my man card and scream like a little girl. ;D
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Post by psychokiller on Mar 9, 2010 14:03:24 GMT -5
Sting was my favorite part of Impact last night by far. I loved the way his heel turn is going so far, and it seems to be his first successful one so far. Sting has always been one of my favorites, and last night was just an amazing time for me to see him as the badass he is.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Mar 9, 2010 14:30:13 GMT -5
The other thing it did was keep Sting vs. RVD for the PPV. If they have that match at Lockdown which I'm going to I think I'll have to turn in my man card and scream like a little girl. ;D You and me both. I will break down and buy the PPV if this happens. This is a match I would pay money to see and consider a big dream match of mine from years gone by.
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Post by BorneAgain on Mar 9, 2010 17:37:58 GMT -5
I'd like to see Sting go around preemptively attacking people he thinks are going to betray him.
*Sting sees Shark Boy* Shark Boy: Oh, hey Stinger. *Sting hits him in the stomach with the bat* Sting: Not going to turn on me today fish boy.
*Daniels runs up* Daniels: Hey man you know that you and I are teaming together tonight, right? *Sting cracks his head* Sting: Yeah, until you betray me and do a three on one attack.
*Stomper inexplicably appears and waves at him. Sting hits him in the groin hard. Sting: Yeah, you're nice until I have a world title match won't ya. Then you'll be all about betraying the Stinger. Not on my watch.
*Sting walks off into sunset, hitting Bubba the Love Sponge on the way. Sting: Well, I just don't like you.
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Mar 9, 2010 19:01:19 GMT -5
Did Sting explain his actions? I did not see the whole show yesterday. Likewise I read an online recap, but it wasn't too clear.
Sting turning heel is a very interesting move, and I am very interested to see how Sting explains himself.
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