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Post by Ryushinku on Mar 9, 2010 19:04:26 GMT -5
Sting didn't explain, no.
But when he does, I hope his past history with Hogan plays into it.
It's early days, we'll see how they go with it...it's one thing to turn Sting heel, it's definitely another thing to make it stick.
But for now, as a Sting mark, Grumpy Old Man Sting whacking everyone with a bat was a lot of fun. He can still be damn cool.
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Post by comahan on Mar 9, 2010 19:04:39 GMT -5
Did Sting explains his actions? I did not see the whole show yesterday. Likewise I read an online recap, but it wasn't too clear. Sting turning heel is a very interesting move, and I am very interested to see how Sting explains himself. Not yet. He did the turn on Abyss and Hogan, shoved Dixie out of the way in the back, lost to RVD and then beat him up, and finally, he hit Hogan with the bat. He hasnt said anything about it yet.
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Post by Celgress on Mar 10, 2010 15:04:16 GMT -5
This angle did something I thought nothing could do. Make me actually care about the Sting character for the first time since c.2006. With that said bravo TNA, bravo on a job well done.
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Post by Krimzon on Mar 10, 2010 17:00:56 GMT -5
Psycrow Sting was absolutely phenomenal! I haven't seen him kick this much ass since he was making bitches out of the nWo. As he famously stated many moons ago, "The only sure thing about Sting...is that nothing's for sure! IT'S SHOWTIME FOLKS!"
I won't EVER turn my back on you, Stinger!
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Post by Rorschach on Mar 10, 2010 19:17:15 GMT -5
*Hrrm*
Seems to be pattern emerging here, but don't know if Russo is even aware of it himself. Sting attacking all "invaders" to his promotion arriving after Hogan. Not random attacks at all...attacks mean something, have undercurrent thanks to history of Sting seeing WWF guys come into his company behind Hogan and ruin things/poison everything. Sting will NOT have that happen on his watch again...these are preemptive strikes by the Stinger....and as stated, have to wonder if Russo even knows that THIS kind of story is not going to make Sting a heel....if anything happens, he's going to be an even bigger babyface if/when he explains himself.
Sting's attitude towards Dixie can be explained vis a vis his experiences with Bischoff and the nWo in the past. He has seen one company leader allow WWF guys to waltz in and ruin things, and he wanted to believe Dixie was smarter than that. In his eyes, her bringing in Hogan is the biggest betrayal she could have ever perpetrated on him.
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Post by Garyspivey on Mar 10, 2010 20:21:51 GMT -5
It actually makes sense continuity wise, Sting and Flair have fought each other for years and respect each other, Sting had been up until hogan came showing respect/mentoring AJ. Sting had a major feud with Hogan and Abyss just gets his ass kicked for backing hogan
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Post by primetime110 on Mar 11, 2010 2:12:13 GMT -5
Sting has always said when he retires he wants to see TNA going in the right direction (I'm going kayfabe here). He was going to retire but thought Joe, Styles and others weren't showing respect and would ruin TNA. This is just a guess, But a few things maybe getting under Sting's skin.
1. Jeff Jarrettt, The founder of the company and who brought Sting in is flipping burgers. You know how much respect Sting has for Jarretts Dad.
2. Mick Foley treated like crap week after week. Remember, He is a share holder.
3. Dixie, For letting all this go on without doing anything about it.
I still have a funny feeling Sting has one more trick up his sleeve. Joe. Who is unhappy with management himself. Did he really get kidnapped? Or was this planned by Joe and Sting.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 11, 2010 2:33:15 GMT -5
Sting has always said when he retires he wants to see TNA going in the right direction (I'm going kayfabe here). He was going to retire but thought Joe, Styles and others weren't showing respect and would ruin TNA. This is just a guess, But a few things maybe getting under Sting's skin. 1. Jeff Jarrettt, The founder of the company and who brought Sting in is flipping burgers. You know how much respect Sting has for Jarretts Dad. 2. Mick Foley treated like crap week after week. Remember, He is a share holder. 3. Dixie, For letting all this go on without doing anything about it. I still have a funny feeling Sting has one more trick up his sleeve. Joe. Who is unhappy with management himself. Did he really get kidnapped? Or was this planned by Joe and Sting. I like where you're going with that, and I thought about it, too. I'm probably thinking this out WAY too far, but when Hogan started yelling "Why so serious, Sting?" on Monday, I got the mental image of Sting as a Dark Knight-esque Joker, intent on, effectively, burning TNA to the ground. You don't need to get complex beyond that: Sting, for whatever reason, feels that he has to bring the entire company down, and does so with a maniacal edge. Since Sting is somewhat limited at his age, he could have "sleeper cells" within TNA, guys who don't give away that they're working with Sting until it's too late. Somebody like Homicide or Raven fits in perfectly here. Meanwhile, Sting holds back his ace-in-the-hole: Joe. Joe is basically Sting's "History Eraser Button"; he lets him loose, and it's not a pretty sight. Joe doesn't become a mindless savage or anything, but with his anger towards management, he chooses to go along with Sting's plan.
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Post by destrucity on Mar 11, 2010 9:38:34 GMT -5
TNA did a great job with Sting's heel turn on Monday night. Unfortunately, they still make too many heel/face turns out of the blue and I can't figure out how and why they made Beer Money heels during the same show.
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Post by primetime110 on Mar 11, 2010 14:04:57 GMT -5
TNA did a great job with Sting's heel turn on Monday night. Unfortunately, they still make too many heel/face turns out of the blue and I can't figure out how and why they made Beer Money heels during the same show. I agree with the Beer money one. I think their better as a heel team. Like you said it came from out of nowhere, With Sting, Like when attacked Joe and Styles a couple years back and finally explained why it made sense. So when he explains this time it'll more than likely make sense. Only problem is if the fans agree with why he did it. There goes the heel turn.
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Post by Evilution E5150 on Mar 11, 2010 19:17:26 GMT -5
i just want a small RVD/Sting fued out of this
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Post by doinkmark on Mar 11, 2010 19:47:21 GMT -5
The thing that bothers me about this is that TNA acts like Sting has never been a heel before. Hasn't he already turned twice since joining the company? Not to mention his failed WCW heel run. All of those turns had one thing in common: Sting quickly turned back into a face. Why? Most likely because, at this point in his career, Sting just can't be booed by the majority of wrestling fans. If TNA is trying to recapture the magic of Sting and Hogan from 1997, booking Sting as a bad guy and at the expense of a debuting RVD isn't the right way to do it in my opinion.
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Post by valiens on Mar 11, 2010 20:07:50 GMT -5
It was great but I wonder if he will truly be heel or if he'll be like an HBK pseudo heel, wherein he will explain to the audience why he's done what he's done and we'll forgive him.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 11, 2010 22:05:55 GMT -5
The thing that bothers me about this is that TNA acts like Sting has never been a heel before. Hasn't he already turned twice since joining the company? Not to mention his failed WCW heel run. All of those turns had one thing in common: Sting quickly turned back into a face. Why? Most likely because, at this point in his career, Sting just can't be booed by the majority of wrestling fans. If TNA is trying to recapture the magic of Sting and Hogan from 1997, booking Sting as a bad guy and at the expense of a debuting RVD isn't the right way to do it in my opinion. From the very get-go of the MEM storyline, Sting really wasn't presented as a heel. His character was much more that he was so obsessed with "respect" that he made a few poor choices, yet despite those poor choices he mostly did things with an air of "wanting to do what's right". There have been plenty of attempts to turn Sting heel before, but I don't think anyone's ever gone as far as they did on Monday. By turning him loose like that on RVD, of all people, I think it's a surefire sign that Sting isn't just acting heelish now, he's a full blown bad guy.
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Mar 11, 2010 22:22:10 GMT -5
When the screen went black and the theme song played, I thought, "What does ODB have to do with this?"
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Post by ICBM on Mar 11, 2010 22:50:06 GMT -5
You know one aspect of his trun hasn't been mentioned and it helped too. He goozled Dixie carter a defensless woman who has been the hand that fed him for 4 years. (She's a horrible actress and could have sold better and he had a loose grip) but it was a heat getter because he has never done anything like that and it is waaaayyy against his character
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Mar 11, 2010 23:37:28 GMT -5
I'd like to see Sting go around preemptively attacking people he thinks are going to betray him. *Sting sees Shark Boy* Shark Boy: Oh, hey Stinger. *Sting hits him in the stomach with the bat* Sting: Not going to turn on me today fish boy. *Daniels runs up* Daniels: Hey man you know that you and I are teaming together tonight, right? *Sting cracks his head* Sting: Yeah, until you betray me and do a three on one attack. *Stomper inexplicably appears and waves at him. Sting hits him in the groin hard. Sting: Yeah, you're nice until I have a world title match won't ya. Then you'll be all about betraying the Stinger. Not on my watch. *Sting walks off into sunset, hitting Bubba the Love Sponge on the way. Sting: Well, I just don't like you. So finally learned after all those years of being turned on.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Mar 12, 2010 4:09:14 GMT -5
I actually think they should have the bulk of Sting's explanation be his relationship with AJ Styles (and even his rocky history with Abyss), with the WCW history only explaining why he hates Hogan. I would really rather they focus on TNA history than history in other companies, but then I remember which company this is.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 12, 2010 5:26:10 GMT -5
I'd like to see Sting go around preemptively attacking people he thinks are going to betray him. *Sting sees Shark Boy* Shark Boy: Oh, hey Stinger. *Sting hits him in the stomach with the bat* Sting: Not going to turn on me today fish boy. *Daniels runs up* Daniels: Hey man you know that you and I are teaming together tonight, right? *Sting cracks his head* Sting: Yeah, until you betray me and do a three on one attack. *Stomper inexplicably appears and waves at him. Sting hits him in the groin hard. Sting: Yeah, you're nice until I have a world title match won't ya. Then you'll be all about betraying the Stinger. Not on my watch. *Sting walks off into sunset, hitting Bubba the Love Sponge on the way. Sting: Well, I just don't like you. Actually, while your idea is slightly over the top, I like the idea that the explanation for his heel turn is that he's been f***ed over so many times in the past that he just hates/mistrusts everyone.
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Post by Subrick on Mar 12, 2010 18:51:31 GMT -5
I'm probably thinking this out WAY too far, but when Hogan started yelling "Why so serious, Sting?" on Monday, I got the mental image of Sting as a Dark Knight-esque Joker, intent on, effectively, burning TNA to the ground. "I'm going to inJECT...the TNA...with a lethal dose...of POISON!"
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