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Post by Richard on Apr 30, 2010 17:36:26 GMT -5
Hogan signed with TNA on October 27, 2009 and since then TNA has signed several big name talents, moved to Monday nights, released some big names (in the TNA world) and controversy has surrounded them.
Simply put, 6 months in give Hogan (and Bischoff) a pass or fail grade.
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Post by Steveweiser on Apr 30, 2010 17:38:34 GMT -5
If they were brought in to lose half their audience, then it's a pass.
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Post by AriadosMan on Apr 30, 2010 17:39:13 GMT -5
Just hasn't delivered the "big mainstream domination" he purported he would.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Apr 30, 2010 17:45:16 GMT -5
I can't fail him since I think he's doing a decent job as a TNA ambassador, and they had cast-offs from other companies at the top of the card and overly hectic storylines long before his arrival.
However, the controversies (the BTLS crap sticking out for me) and the early ratings struggle against Raw drop him down to a C- in my book.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Apr 30, 2010 17:47:02 GMT -5
Hogan haven't lived up to the hype. So far he's the New Coke.
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Post by Crazy Diamond on Apr 30, 2010 18:05:21 GMT -5
Believe it or not, I think it's too early to tell.
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Post by bob on Apr 30, 2010 18:10:46 GMT -5
epic fail
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Post by The Tank on Apr 30, 2010 18:13:15 GMT -5
I'm gonna go with somewhere between pass and fail.
TNA certainly hasn't tanked since The Hulkster showed up, but they definitely haven't made any accomplishments.
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Post by forgottensinpwf on Apr 30, 2010 18:15:16 GMT -5
Massive Fail
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Post by Celgress on Apr 30, 2010 18:32:06 GMT -5
Somewhere between pass and fail, for now. Though I'm leaning towards fail, at this point.
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Post by Bravo Echo November on Apr 30, 2010 18:35:01 GMT -5
3/5, but when you put it in perspective he has failed to really bring TNA to the next level.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2010 18:35:02 GMT -5
If they were brought in to lose half their audience, then it's a pass. We can argue all day long about which stars should be brought in, whether storylines are interesting, whether they are building stars are not, whether divisions (X, KO, Tag) are stronger or weaker now. These are all subjective things. But the fact that Hulk Hogan was able to halve the audience and brought iMPACT its lowest rating in its five year history is evidence that he has failed thus far. "The Draft," "SCSA on RAW," "Bret Hart on RAW," etc, etc, etc are excuses. And excuses are monuments of nothingness that build bridges to nowhere - those who use these tools of incomptence are worthy of nothingness. Hogan has made mistakes - mistakes that his paycheck should not allow. If you bring in a "fixer" and he spends 6 months making things worse on all fronts - that's failure. The fact that he's too proud to admit he made a mistake is further example of failure. Making a mistake normal, but not admitting to it and correcting it is the sign of a failure.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Apr 30, 2010 18:35:54 GMT -5
They've increased roster size, so I'd assume they increased pay costs unless Waltman is working for less the Kong, but considering why Kong left I doubt it. They've increased production costs. They've cut or lost prominent members of their biggest draws, the knockouts and X-division. They've increased their TV time and in doing so increased the networks reliance on them. The verdict for me is they've failed in ways I didn't think they could, but have somehow kept the ship afloat so I would have to give them a D- minus.
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Post by sunwukong on Apr 30, 2010 18:38:31 GMT -5
Fail.
He's cost them a massive percentage of their first run audience, put them in direct competition with a company they have no hope of competing with, creatively they're still a mess, and they're rehasing stuff from fifteen years ago in the hopes that lightning will strike twice.
He has contributed nothing and caused verifiable harm to the company's standing on television. That's an equation for failure, plain and simply.
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Post by Natalya's Ass Fanboy on Apr 30, 2010 19:37:31 GMT -5
Pass.
He's helped bring them their highest rating ever and the roster and product have both improved while he's been involved. He's also proven that, when going against your average RAW, he can help keep iMPACT! close to its usual audience.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 30, 2010 19:38:09 GMT -5
I'd give him like a C minus.
Nothing TOO terrible, but 1) I much preferred the four or five months pre Hogan and 2) if he was supposed to be a 'game changer' it ain't working.
So I guess it's a passing grade, he's just scraping by doing the bare minimum.
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Post by comahan on Apr 30, 2010 20:04:11 GMT -5
I read this as Hogan out 6 months.
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Post by Richard on Apr 30, 2010 20:07:14 GMT -5
Pass. He's helped bring them their highest rating ever And their lowest ever. Opinion Close? Seriously? At best they are .3 from their average rating on Thursdays and about 250,000 viewers less. ============= I am saying fail. Massive fail. The ratings have plummeted. Abyss is a failure (see the popularity title shot pole) and, none of the talent he has brought in have been worth it IMO.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Apr 30, 2010 20:07:31 GMT -5
You can't call his run to this point a success by any measure, unless you measure his success by how many paychecks he's netted his buddies, but it's not fair to call it a complete and utter failure yet, either. He gets a C-, but it's sliding toward an F.
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Post by GaTechGrad on Apr 30, 2010 20:08:41 GMT -5
Pass, but not with flying colors.
TNA now has four hours of programming per week, with every other week's show live.
Also, if we're going all the way back to October of last year, you have to give Hogan credit for the highly esteemed Wolfe/Angle program and the AJ/Daniels/Joe rematch from last year. We also had the longest title reign from a "TNA original" in TNA history.
The major faults I see are the removal of some of the TNA originals (Daniels) and the dismantlement of the Knockouts division (Kong, Alissa, Traci, Roxxi, etc). Ending the World Elite is also one of the worst decisions I can remember, since that stable was a license to print money.
Under Hogan, it also seems like TNA has a multiple personality disorder. Sometimes it is family friendly (the Abyss ring saga, Black Machismo, etc). But other times it is adult oriented (overuse of blood, making the Knockouts sex objects, Pope's promos, a pothead for world champion, and the Orlando Jordan character). Maybe they should just do "family friendly" from 8 to 9, and then do hardcore/attitude from 9 to 10.
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