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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2010 19:44:32 GMT -5
Considering 90% of the board called it a stupid idea when announced, I'd hardly say it "we have a lot of Monday morning quarterbacks on here". To be fair, everything TNA does is considered a bad move by 90% of the board. Can we help it that 90% of TNA are actually bad moves? Moving to Monday nights was just one of them.
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Post by Ron Woodsman aka Shempaholic on May 3, 2010 19:48:59 GMT -5
I don't mind them going back to Thursdays, but I hate the fact that their going back to all taped shows. If something major happens, it doesn't matter how hard you try you will see a spoiler somewhere. I was really enjoying the live Impacts and the "anything can happen" vibe that Raw, despite being live, hasn't had for quite some time.
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Post by Michael Coello on May 3, 2010 19:50:33 GMT -5
I didn't mention WWE, though. And really, don't tell me that it's just a generalization. Pretty much every week has some kind of mention of something that TNA did wrong. From some of the new talent to the angles to any news or any rumors, and you can't tell me there's not something for everyone in that regard. That there's always someone complaining about something? Not a generalization, same way as WWE. Every promotion will have a lot of complaints about things on a regular basis. That it encompasses and extremely vast majority of the board? That's the generalization. I don't really wanna go into this damn discussion of "we are some multi culture group with different opinions" BS again about the board. All I wanted to do was point out that there's always some backlash about whatever happens, and that puts a different light on the whole idea that people know that it was something they should do.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on May 3, 2010 19:58:59 GMT -5
I don't mind the move back. They proved that they where not ready for Monday nights. That only because there advertsing sucks large. Now at less Thursdays there no WWE to take away wrestling fans. The question I have is will they still have live Impacts on Thrusdays or will it be back to taped weekly?
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Post by Red Impact on May 3, 2010 20:01:04 GMT -5
That there's always someone complaining about something? Not a generalization, same way as WWE. Every promotion will have a lot of complaints about things on a regular basis. That it encompasses and extremely vast majority of the board? That's the generalization. I don't really wanna go into this damn discussion of "we are some multi culture group with different opinions" BS again about the board. All I wanted to do was point out that there's always some backlash about whatever happens, and that puts a different light on the whole idea that people know that it was something they should do. *shrugs* Then quit trying to argue it? That's sort of what you're inviting anytime you try to claim a hive-mind of hate BS. There's always backlash, but there's also always people who are for the same moves. That's what you get being on a message board where different people, as opposed to a hive mind, share ideas. The move to Mondays could have been a good idea, but the way they handled it was flawed. They weren't ready to change immediately after their rating, nor were they willing to wait it out and test the waters to see if it was a potential audience or if that number came from the spectacle. They pulled the trigger at an inopportune time between them, then pulled it again to change the timeslot, kept waffling about Thursday Replays, now have pulled out completely. It's been a mess in that standpoint.
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Post by GaTechGrad on May 3, 2010 20:02:08 GMT -5
Maybe they'll bring back the six sided ring while they're at it.
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Post by Michael Coello on May 3, 2010 20:07:33 GMT -5
I don't really wanna go into this damn discussion of "we are some multi culture group with different opinions" BS again about the board. All I wanted to do was point out that there's always some backlash about whatever happens, and that puts a different light on the whole idea that people know that it was something they should do. *shrugs* Then quit trying to argue it? There's always backlash, but there's also always people who are for the same moves. That's what you get being on a message board where different people, as opposed to a hive mind, share ideas. I'm not trying to argue anything. Really, all I really wanted to point out is that, really, should the fact that people disapproved of it mean anything when there's always people that disapprove of something?
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Post by Red Impact on May 3, 2010 20:09:07 GMT -5
*shrugs* Then quit trying to argue it? There's always backlash, but there's also always people who are for the same moves. That's what you get being on a message board where different people, as opposed to a hive mind, share ideas. I'm not trying to argue anything. Really, all I really wanted to point out is that, really, should the fact that people disapproved of it mean anything when there's always people that disapprove of something? Well, it does mean that you have a hard time claiming they're Monday morning QB's. Those are people who criticize things after they fail, and if people are criticizing it when it happens, they can't be such.
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Post by Michael Coello on May 3, 2010 20:11:26 GMT -5
I'm not trying to argue anything. Really, all I really wanted to point out is that, really, should the fact that people disapproved of it mean anything when there's always people that disapprove of something? Well, it does mean that you have a hard time claiming they're Monday morning QB's. Those are people who criticize things after they fail, and if people are criticizing it when it happens, they can't be such. I have no idea what the hell Monday QB's are!
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Post by Chainsaw on May 3, 2010 20:11:32 GMT -5
I'm on my phone right now, so I can't post any pictures, but.......*facepalm*
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Post by Red Impact on May 3, 2010 20:23:45 GMT -5
Well, it does mean that you have a hard time claiming they're Monday morning QB's. Those are people who criticize things after they fail, and if people are criticizing it when it happens, they can't be such. I have no idea what the hell Monday QB's are! Like I said in the post you quoted, they're people who criticize things after they fail who were not criticizing it before it did. And when someone in the thread responded that there were a lot of Monday morning QB's in this thread, it spawned the response that a lot of people thought it was a bad idea at the time, which is what spawned it to begin with.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2010 20:26:33 GMT -5
Okay, this whole Monday fiasco has just been one huge screw-up from day one. Honestly, though, who didn't see this coming?
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Post by hajimenoippo on May 3, 2010 20:27:32 GMT -5
Well their Thursday shows were beating their monday show. Might as well have never moved. But it was a good experiment.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on May 3, 2010 20:30:36 GMT -5
I know some of those are trying to paint this Monday Night thing as a failure, but the bottom line is...............it was a failure. A miserable failure.
TNA moving back to Thursday Nights originally would have been a smart move, but now it is the only move you can make out of survival so no brownie points anymore from me for doing this.
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Post by Massive G on May 3, 2010 20:43:43 GMT -5
Okay, this whole Monday fiasco has just been one huge screw-up from day one. Honestly, though, who didn't see this coming?
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Post by Parrish on May 3, 2010 21:06:59 GMT -5
I was one that thought moving to Mondays was a good idea....but I WAS WAY WRONG
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Post by Andrew is Good on May 3, 2010 21:07:28 GMT -5
Tremendous. For me, this changes nothing, but Thursday was the developed timeslot, they gained their fans there. They split part of the audience on Mondays, and I'm interested to see if they're able to gain back the audience they lost since Hogan came in. Because really, Raw's ratings haven't been the best either recently, so it's not just Raw taking their viewers.
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Post by Krimzon on May 3, 2010 21:08:48 GMT -5
And here I was hoping the move to Monday would be a great step forward for them. Boy was I wrong.
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Post by hollywood on May 3, 2010 21:26:23 GMT -5
So I guess the first round of the relaunched Monday Night War goes to WWE.
Vince's response: "Who were they again?"
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Post by Natalya's Ass Fanboy on May 3, 2010 21:26:56 GMT -5
As I stated in the very post you quoted, as long as the ratings don't effect the programming (product), they don't mean much to me. Obviously if iMPACT! is canceled it'll effect the product. I don't see it coming to that, though. As I said, worst case scenario is that they go back to Thursday nights, and even then I'm confident they'd test out the 8-10 time-slot first. The typical cast of characters are berating TNA for the move to Mondays, but I applaud them for at least trying to create some buzz. Things didn't work out as well as was hoped, but there's been no real loss -- they're right back to where they would've been had they never tried to begin with. I'm glad to see they're putting this worthwhile but ultimately failed experiment behind them and are ready to grow on Thursday nights. I also like that Spike is making Reaction a full-time show, although I'd rather see an extra hour of iMPACT! or a secondary wrestling show on another night.
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