Doctor Of Style
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Post by Doctor Of Style on May 4, 2010 11:18:34 GMT -5
I saw that coming...
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on May 4, 2010 11:32:09 GMT -5
Okay, this whole Monday fiasco has just been one huge screw-up from day one. Honestly, though, who didn't see this coming? And:
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randomranter
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Post by randomranter on May 4, 2010 11:36:02 GMT -5
TNA "tested the waters" on Monday January 4 and they got their highest rating EVER. (up against a stacked Raw with the debut of Bret Hart) At that time, it looked like moving to Monday was the logical thing to do. And anybody who made that decision based on one night should immediately be fired. The spike in ratings was most likely due to Hogan's debut and curiosity. Anybody with more than 3 active brain cells could have told them that their ratings were going to drop. They have a very dedicated fan base that pulls ratings in the 1.0 range. The good thing is that they're dedicated enough to maintain that 1.0 over long periods of time. The bad thing is that the fanbase isn't getting any bigger, and probably won't get any bigger any time soon. Part of that loyal fan base are also WWE fans. It's a simple formula, really. If X% of your fans are both TNA and WWE fans and (a) your fanbase hasn't grown in years, and (b) you move to a timeslot that directly competes with WWE programming, you should expect your ratings to drop by as much as X%. And that's exactly what's happened. They forced a bunch of TNA/WWE fans to choose one or the other, and they obviously chose WWE. And what were they going to do when Monday Night Football starts back up? At the rate they were bleeding viewers, there would have been more people in the audience than there were watching TNA on TV by the time football season kicked in.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on May 4, 2010 11:46:44 GMT -5
TNA "tested the waters" on Monday January 4 and they got their highest rating EVER. (up against a stacked Raw with the debut of Bret Hart) At that time, it looked like moving to Monday was the logical thing to do. I seriously doubt that anyone in TNA had a crystal ball and could look into the future. If they knew their ratings would fall below their usual 1.0, I'm SURE they would have never moved to Mondays. EVERYBODY saw that coming. Didn't they hire Bischoff-Hervey group to do market research or some such crap? Eric doesn't even need to look up ratings, most of the time he was on Nitro and his especially his stay on Raw they lost viewers during MNF. The thing is Nitro and Raw could survive a temporary hit in ratings. TNA really shouldn't be trying to weather THAT storm when they were in a comfortable spot. WWE suffers its lowest ratings to Football, not to bad storylines or boring wrestling.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2010 11:48:53 GMT -5
I love the logic that ONE spike in ratings for Monday was cause enough to move to Monday nights, but weeks of below-average ratings some how ISN'T cause enough to move back.
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Post by Michael Coello on May 4, 2010 12:09:11 GMT -5
I love the logic that ONE spike in ratings for Monday was cause enough to move to Monday nights, but weeks of below-average ratings some how ISN'T cause enough to move back. So.......much.....irony........in......post......
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2010 12:11:25 GMT -5
I love the logic that ONE spike in ratings for Monday was cause enough to move to Monday nights, but weeks of below-average ratings some how ISN'T cause enough to move back. So.......much.....irony........in......post...... I'm not sure you understand irony. Maybe you're not getting enough iron in your diet. Judging from all the ellipses - I'd say that's the case.
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Post by Michael Coello on May 4, 2010 12:14:27 GMT -5
So.......much.....irony........in......post...... I'm not sure you understand irony. Maybe you're not getting enough iron in your diet. Judging from all the ellipses - I'd say that's the case. It's just stupid how you can say that one spike in the rating isn't suppose to be enough, yet one drop in the rating was enough to push the whole TNA IS DOOMED, BROTHER" thing to the breaking point.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2010 12:15:57 GMT -5
I'm not sure you understand irony. Maybe you're not getting enough iron in your diet. Judging from all the ellipses - I'd say that's the case. It's just stupid how you can say that one spike in the rating isn't suppose to be enough, yet one drop in the rating was enough to push the whole TNA IS DOOMED, BROTHER" thing to the breaking point. I didn't say one drop in rating. It was ONE spike in rating that caused the move. And like SEVEN below-average ratings later some people (not TNA mind you) are still saying that moving back to Thursdays is a bad idea. And did I say TNA was doomed? Nope. You really should READ someone's post before commenting on them - it really helps carry a conversation between people if its not an asymmetrical conversation.
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Post by HMARK Center on May 4, 2010 12:46:11 GMT -5
And if TNA isn't doomed, and the Monday experiment simply didn't work out, then, as I've asked so often before, who cares? They gave it a shot, it didn't work, and the backup plan to retreat back to Thursdays was always there.
So, again...why should I really care beyond now changing around my viewing habits a little bit? TNA trying Mondays out seemed to be a capital offense to some here, and moving back seems to be this death blow or something. It was a misguided attempt to generate buzz, and they didn't pull it off. I don't see anything to it beyond that.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2010 13:00:18 GMT -5
And if TNA isn't doomed, and the Monday experiment simply didn't work out, then, as I've asked so often before, who cares? They gave it a shot, it didn't work, and the backup plan to retreat back to Thursdays was always there. So, again...why should I really care beyond now changing around my viewing habits a little bit? TNA trying Mondays out seemed to be a capital offense to some here, and moving back seems to be this death blow or something. It was a misguided attempt to generate buzz, and they didn't pull it off. I don't see anything to it beyond that. For me - someone who liked TNA in early - mid 2009, the product changed drastically with Hogan and the Monday Night War Round 2 era of TNA. The attempt to create buzz resulted in a huge overhaul of the product - which made me dislike the show. If they didn't start up with an asinine "war" then the product may have still been something worth watching to me. That's why I care.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on May 4, 2010 14:01:10 GMT -5
And if TNA isn't doomed, and the Monday experiment simply didn't work out, then, as I've asked so often before, who cares? They gave it a shot, it didn't work, and the backup plan to retreat back to Thursdays was always there. So, again...why should I really care beyond now changing around my viewing habits a little bit? TNA trying Mondays out seemed to be a capital offense to some here, and moving back seems to be this death blow or something. It was a misguided attempt to generate buzz, and they didn't pull it off. I don't see anything to it beyond that. For me - someone who liked TNA in early - mid 2009, the product changed drastically with Hogan and the Monday Night War Round 2 era of TNA. The attempt to create buzz resulted in a huge overhaul of the product - which made me dislike the show. If they didn't start up with an asinine "war" then the product may have still been something worth watching to me. That's why I care. I am upset because everyone except those who let their love for the product blind them from the truth, knew full well that this was a bad idea to begin with. Then there was excuse after excuse after excuse to why it didn't work out for them. * Oh....it's Shawn Michael's retirement that hurt us. * Oh.....it's the buildup to Wrestlemania that hurt us. * Oh....it's the WWE draft that hurt us * Oh.....it's the NBA playoffs that hurt us * Oh.....it's the NHL playoffs that hurt us * Oh.....it's baseball that hurt us * Oh.....it's the NCAA Tournament that hurt us And now after TNA has basically admitted defeat, it is now this was merely a growing pain or this experiment didn't work. Those are excuses that hide the reality and that reality is despite what the blind may think, WWE puts on a more presentable product than TNA. A growing pain does not make you come back in a worse position than you already were. You failed, TNA.....and you failed miserably.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on May 4, 2010 15:04:03 GMT -5
For me - someone who liked TNA in early - mid 2009, the product changed drastically with Hogan and the Monday Night War Round 2 era of TNA. The attempt to create buzz resulted in a huge overhaul of the product - which made me dislike the show. If they didn't start up with an asinine "war" then the product may have still been something worth watching to me. That's why I care. I am upset because everyone except those who let their love for the product blind them from the truth, knew full well that this was a bad idea to begin with. Then there was excuse after excuse after excuse to why it didn't work out for them. * Oh....it's Shawn Michael's retirement that hurt us. * Oh.....it's the buildup to Wrestlemania that hurt us. * Oh....it's the WWE draft that hurt us * Oh.....it's the NBA playoffs that hurt us * Oh.....it's the NHL playoffs that hurt us * Oh.....it's baseball that hurt us * Oh.....it's the NCAA Tournament that hurt us And now after TNA has basically admitted defeat, it is now this was merely a growing pain or this experiment didn't work. Those are excuses that hide the reality and that reality is despite what the blind may think, WWE puts on a more presentable product than TNA. A growing pain does not make you come back in a worse position than you already were. You failed, TNA.....and you failed miserably. THIS. It was treated by Hogan and the blind loyalists that the Jan.4th rating was the standard and every rating that didn't live up to that could be easily explained. However, it didn't take long until someone in charge either Dixie or Spike started realizing those reasons were just excuses and they standard was the smaller ratings and the high rating was the exception.
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Post by DrizzlinShytes on May 4, 2010 15:16:56 GMT -5
So how much money did they spend on this miserable, horrible failure? One of the kisses of death in TV is changing your night and it is even worse when you change it again, even if it is back to the old night. Just ask Jay Leno.
In every way possible this was a total failure and stain on TNA. They basically sold out their original brand in almost every way and have nothing to show for it, but being right back where they started. The world champion has basically had two cups of coffee in the company. The show revolves around Hogan, Bischoff, and Flair. Three guys that have had three cups of coffee in the organization. They spent no telling how much money to bring in a bunch of WWE guys and produce a live show and fell flat on their face. That is all investment down the drain. The Hogan/Bischoff experiment is a failure no matter what happens.
I mean...honestly now, did Dixie spend all that money on Hogan and Bischoff and all that WWE talent including Hardy, Anderson, RVD, Hall, Waltman, etc., to just be right back on Thursday drawing a 1.0?
I'm even shocked Hogan and Bischoff failed this quickly. I thought it would take at least a little while longer. So much for them being brilliant minds of the business. How hard is Vince laughing?
lol@TNA
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Post by vanboxmeer on May 4, 2010 15:19:18 GMT -5
"We just need 50,000 people to buy our weekly PPVs." "We just need Hulk Hogan." "We just need TV." "We just need real TV." "We just need stars." "We just need Thursdays." "We just need primetime." "We just need two hours." "We just need more star power." "We just need Hulk Hogan." "We just need Monday Nights" "We just need Monday Nights 8-10." "We just need Thursdays."
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Post by HMARK Center on May 4, 2010 15:34:31 GMT -5
This is really getting pathetic, guys.
"Lol TNA's dead."
"NUH-UH ITS NOT, YOU'RE SILLY"
"epic fail lulz"
Boring, locked.
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