Celgress
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Post by Celgress on Jul 9, 2010 11:45:35 GMT -5
Yeah, that was terrible... It made me sad :/ Same here in all honesty, I felt both sad & embarrassed for him.
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on Jul 9, 2010 12:23:41 GMT -5
He's getting older....he's doing right about what I expect out of him.
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Post by joeverfield on Jul 9, 2010 13:23:09 GMT -5
He looked fine to me. Not what he once was but he can still go.
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Post by "The Rated XXX Superstar" Jed on Jul 9, 2010 15:18:25 GMT -5
I didn't see anything bad about. I enjoyed the match. Though to be fair if I was in TNA at this point, I wouldn't feel the need to put too much effort into it.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Jul 9, 2010 15:23:53 GMT -5
Ok, screw what you guys are saying. That match with Joe was good. I don't see what the problem was.
RVD might not be quite as crisp at doing his flippy moves anymore, but he's not botching them or anything.
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Post by Massive G on Jul 9, 2010 15:47:16 GMT -5
The guy's been doing this for years, I can't see how people are surprised that RVD only does the exact same handful of moves. this. Watching RVD has been sad for quite some time now. But hey, yin yangs! Amirite?
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Post by joeiscool on Jul 9, 2010 15:51:42 GMT -5
Ok, screw what you guys are saying. That match with Joe was good. I don't see what the problem was. RVD might not be quite as crisp at doing his flippy moves anymore, but he's not botching them or anything. He actually botched a lot in his ecw days :-\
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Post by lordkain316 on Jul 9, 2010 18:05:05 GMT -5
Meh. The last great match that RVD had in my opinion as far as I'm concerned was with Cena at ONS2.
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Post by I Like Your Poetry on Jul 9, 2010 20:21:25 GMT -5
You know what depresses me? The fact that RVD was full of potential, and he was on top of his game for many years.
But I feel like the guy never adapted as he went on, and he just went into autopilot back in 2002. And it's depressing to think that if he could have adapted his moveset here and there, RVD wouldn't have become a slow-mo version of his previous self.
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Post by mydixiewrecked on Jul 9, 2010 20:41:15 GMT -5
sorry but RVD has no business whatsoever being TNA champ., it really devalues the belt , soo many other talents to give it to and TNA decides to give it to a WWF reject? kinda hard to swallow for me and other long time TNA fans
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Post by Rick Mad on Jul 9, 2010 21:34:39 GMT -5
I thought it was a pretty good match. I'm surprised to see that most other people didn't like it! It wasn't chain wrestling, super-hardcore RVD but..
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Post by mydixiewrecked on Jul 9, 2010 21:38:18 GMT -5
I thought it was a pretty good match. I'm surprised to see that most other people didn't like it! It wasn't chain wrestling, super-hardcore RVD but.. It wasn't that it was a crap match, but Joe should be defending the belt and not the other way around, and that's not my opinion that is FACT
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Post by losthead on Jul 9, 2010 21:41:32 GMT -5
I thought it was decent. I was in to it at least. The last hour before that I had no interest in, but from that match forward I was actually watching the product.
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The OP
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Post by The OP on Jul 9, 2010 21:43:45 GMT -5
soo many other talents to give it to and TNA decides to give it to a WWF reject?
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on Jul 9, 2010 22:19:23 GMT -5
I think its funny that people call RVD and Hardy WWE rejects, when they left the WWE on their own terms. They chose TNA not because they were fired and it was the next best thing, but chose TNA because it was a change of pace, or *cough* "well-ness policy." In regards to RVD not "doing it" for most of you, whatever, you have you're opinion about a performer's skills, but RVD is still a huge name in the biz, and at his age, can still work a crowd. I think it's funny when people complain about one worker's overuse of kicks, but drool over another's overuse of chops. feh... I still think RVD is a solid worker, and will take his style of wrestling, over many others out there young or old.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jul 9, 2010 22:20:44 GMT -5
sorry but RVD has no business whatsoever being TNA champ., it really devalues the belt , soo many other talents to give it to and TNA decides to give it to a WWF reject? kinda hard to swallow for me and other long time TNA fans First of all RVD is NOT a WWE reject. He was never fired from the WWE or released. He lefted the WWE when his contract was up and took two years off from wrestling because he was burned out from wrestling just like Chris Jericho. The WWE had a new deal for him and wanted him to say. If he was such a reject then why did the WWE have him show up and squash Santino on a raw and be in the Royal Rumble as a cameo? The other reason he didn't resign was to be with his wife who had cancer. You find it that hard to swallow as a long time TNA fan to have RVD as champion? You honestly think he out of all former champion in TNA history is devaluing the title? How is he devaluing the title when he is one of the most popular wrestlers in TNA and in wrestling history. There was never a time since 97 where RVD was not major over as a face. Now you tell me how he any worst then Mick Foley last year. Or how about Ron Killings who is nothing more then a midcarder else where in his career and was a WWE cast off once before TNA gave him the belt. What about the founder himself Jeff Jarrett. He think he was that creatable of a champion when chanted him to drop the title? There been far worst champions in TNA. RVD as champion was a good move but they hot shoot it to him which I don't agree with. But making him champion wasn't a bad move. None of his matches where what I call bad. RVD may not be the guy he was 5 years ago but there been guys his age look far worst. Not saying that guys like Joe and Styles shouldn't be champion. They should but TNA made the move to draw in the fans because they know he had a huge following. And because of the legal troubles Jeff Hardy is dealing with. They basicly the reason why he wasn't made champion.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 9, 2010 22:33:34 GMT -5
I thought the match was pretty good. Much of that credit has to go to Joe who just looked awesome, but I don't think RVD did that poorly.
Plus, while I haven't been crazy about the idea of RVD as champ; I definitely wouldn't say he devalued the belt. Not when you had Foley who can barely move at this point as title holder for a bit.
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Krimzon
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Post by Krimzon on Jul 9, 2010 22:35:02 GMT -5
I didn't think the match was bad, but something just wasn't right. During a few points in the match, I got the feeling that RVD was just...done. I've always enjoyed RVD, but during that match with Joe, it's like he jumped the shark with me.
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Post by mydixiewrecked on Jul 9, 2010 22:50:48 GMT -5
I think its funny that people call RVD and Hardy WWE rejects, when they left the WWE on their own terms. They chose TNA not because they were fired and it was the next best thing, but chose TNA because it was a change of pace, or *cough* "well-ness policy." In regards to RVD not "doing it" for most of you, whatever, you have you're opinion about a performer's skills, but RVD is still a huge name in the biz, and at his age, can still work a crowd. I think it's funny when people complain about one worker's overuse of kicks, but drool over another's overuse of chops. feh... I still think RVD is a solid worker, and will take his style of wrestling, over many others out there young or old. just to play devil's advocate: lol, yeah "change of pace" thats the ticket what crowd is he "working" the impact zone? I'm not even going to list the amount of people that are bigger "names in the business" than RVD if "solid wrestler" is the best you can come up with to describe your world champ. , well .....
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Post by mydixiewrecked on Jul 9, 2010 22:57:43 GMT -5
sorry but RVD has no business whatsoever being TNA champ., it really devalues the belt , soo many other talents to give it to and TNA decides to give it to a WWF reject? kinda hard to swallow for me and other long time TNA fans First of all RVD is NOT a WWE reject. He was never fired from the WWE or released. He lefted the WWE when his contract was up and took two years off from wrestling because he was burned out from wrestling just like Chris Jericho. The WWE had a new deal for him and wanted him to say. If he was such a reject then why did the WWE have him show up and squash Santino on a raw and be in the Royal Rumble as a cameo? The other reason he didn't resign was to be with his wife who had cancer. You find it that hard to swallow as a long time TNA fan to have RVD as champion? You honestly think he out of all former champion in TNA history is devaluing the title? How is he devaluing the title when he is one of the most popular wrestlers in TNA and in wrestling history. There was never a time since 97 where RVD was not major over as a face. Now you tell me how he any worst then Mick Foley last year. Or how about Ron Killings who is nothing more then a midcarder else where in his career and was a WWE cast off once before TNA gave him the belt. What about the founder himself Jeff Jarrett. He think he was that creatable of a champion when chanted him to drop the title? There been far worst champions in TNA. RVD as champion was a good move but they hot shoot it to him which I don't agree with. But making him champion wasn't a bad move. None of his matches where what I call bad. RVD may not be the guy he was 5 years ago but there been guys his age look far worst. Not saying that guys like Joe and Styles shouldn't be champion. They should but TNA made the move to draw in the fans because they know he had a huge following. And because of the legal troubles Jeff Hardy is dealing with. They basicly the reason why he wasn't made champion. you're taking way too much offense to what I was saying, I'm not going get argue why RVD shouldn't be champ, it comes down to your opinion verse mine, I believe history shows and will continue to show why my opinion is correct BTW I'm being a smartass so again no offense
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