Convoy
El Dandy
Rusev admits to being a sex addict to large applause.
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Post by Convoy on Jun 13, 2010 10:37:09 GMT -5
WWE should probably take down Dragon's Twitter link, as it connects to a fan's page now.
And boy is he critical of the situation.
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Jun 13, 2010 10:38:19 GMT -5
and there's not going to be because he didn't violate the wellness policy The thing that still make me thing that is a work, is that they hadn't announced the release in the inside news section www.wwe.com/inside/news/Here appears all the releases, from carlito to mickie james EDIT: Nevermind, there it is, I don't get why I can't see it in the homepage of the news
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Post by Sharpy Snow on Jun 13, 2010 10:43:15 GMT -5
Long time lurker, first time poster. While I'm sure that this not a work, I do have to say that it is not inconceivable that whoever was the mastermind of the N-vasion would probably have the smarts to come up with something like this release as a work, just to keep internet buzz as the weekend approached. The real reason I felt like posting was that I'm still amazed that there is not a Wrestler's Union after all these years. Every time someone gets released on a whim (not wellness related) I always wish there was some recourse for those let go. If the only reason Bryan was released was do to the image of him choking Justin was shown on TV, then shouldn't the cameraman that had his camera in Justin's face and the TV director that held the shot for several seconds be fired too? Oh yeah, they are probably in unions, therefore it is easier to release the independent contractor. A union would never work. There are PLENTY of guys who die for a shot at the WWE and would never agree to be part of a union. Soooo Vince could just NEVER hire anyone that joined a Union. A union COULD work. But it would need the likes of Cena to be part of it from the beginning. Guys that they can't just replace with a click of the fingers. If Primo and Masters were the ones starting it of course, they'll be gone before you know it.
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Chainsaw
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A very BAD man.
It is what it is
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Post by Chainsaw on Jun 13, 2010 10:44:14 GMT -5
Products become successful initially because they appeal to the public. Sponsors jump on board because they can also make money from something the public likes. Company sees it makes more money from the sponsors than from the public, so it caters to them. Death knell sounds, because it may not happen today, tomorrow, or ten years from now, but eventually the public's desires will not mirror the sponsors' desires, and so everyone will stop being able to make enough money to make the venture worthwhile. Company folds. Everyone wonders why, since it was so successful for so long. Except, of course, the public, who knows that the company hadn't been putting out a worthwhile product for decades. You have to balance what the public wants with what your sponsors want. It seems extremely short-sighted to me to say that a company always has a moral, ethical and logical obligation to immediately cave to any whim of their sponsors, because those sponsors are here because the company's product is desired by the public. If the public ceases to want the company's product, then the company isn't serving the sponsors OR the public. It's funny, because WWE has usually stood it's ground pretty strongly when sponsors have threatened to pull their sponsorships from the show. I seem to remember Burger King (or someone) not being happy with the show's mature Attitude-Era tone. The WWE told them to go scratch. And they're still around. Now, if it is Mattel who have had all these concerns, that's different. They're not a sponsor, they're making WWE merchandise. But they still shouldn't have that much say in the product if it's licensed. Look at DC Comics. They have their toys made by Mattel, and they just dealt with a major storyline where zombified versions of heroes attacked the Green Lanterns. Now, does that mean Mattel should step in and say that they dislike the storyline because they don't want superheroes being portrayed as dead beings and that it should be changed? I don't think so. Now, given, it's not real people doing this on TV, but really, how much difference is there between wrestling and comic books? If Mattel is trying to take a moral high-ground here because of something Bryan did (and this is a big if), then they need to step back and realize their company can appeal to a whole range of people, not just kids.
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Raging_Demons
Don Corleone
I Can Ride My Bike With No Handlebars, No Handlebars, No Handlebars!
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Post by Raging_Demons on Jun 13, 2010 10:58:10 GMT -5
and there's not going to be because he didn't violate the wellness policy Actually that's wrong. I happen to run another Forum and one of my Moderators happens to be a WWE Shareholder. He just notified me that the Shareholders are notified on ALL WWE talent that are fired, whether they failed Wellness Policy or not. It's just like the Corporate page. And...still no mention of Danielson being fired. Also the one thing that I have a problem with. If Danielson did get fired, why the news of him accepting indy dates? Doesn't he have to sit-through a "no-compete" clause?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2010 11:01:21 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the no-compete clause only applies to television. And if the released talent so chooses they can waive it losing any monies owed to them and be a free agent immediately.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2010 11:01:43 GMT -5
and there's not going to be because he didn't violate the wellness policy Also the one thing that I have a problem with. If Danielson did get fired, why the news of him accepting indy dates? Doesn't he have to sit-through a "no-compete" clause? That bothered me too but I'm not sure if the no-compete clause only applies to certain places like TNA. That is, of course, if the indy dates thing is legit in the first place.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jun 13, 2010 11:10:21 GMT -5
Also the one thing that I have a problem with. If Danielson did get fired, why the news of him accepting indy dates? Doesn't he have to sit-through a "no-compete" clause? the no compete clause applies to television, and even if it doesn't its never too early to start taking bookings for when the 90 days is up
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Post by Nexus' Shogun on Jun 13, 2010 11:11:27 GMT -5
don't mean to offend anybody, but why is evreybody so mad, no one knows if it is legit, and if it is, i'm sure he will retun soon
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4real
Wade Wilson
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Post by 4real on Jun 13, 2010 11:21:30 GMT -5
All I will say is if Bryan turns up on RAW on Monday it might just be one of the greatest mark out moments ever.
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Post by primetime110 on Jun 13, 2010 11:21:37 GMT -5
The day that the IWC starts hating Punk and saying he is holding down talent is the day that nothing becomes sacred. If that happens, I'm going to my bomb shelter, cause Armageddon would be near. Hope you have room for 2. My isn't completed yet. lol.
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Post by ScottHall187 on Jun 13, 2010 11:27:01 GMT -5
If it's legit then that sucks, but he'll turn up in TNA in 90days anyway more than likely. My only thought is if they fired him for the choking thing then why was it shown on NXT multiple times in the highlights and reviews? Plus on RAW if they didn't want to show that, they would have pulled the camera man away from that shot, not sit on it like they did.
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Post by VINTAGE GRIDLOCK! on Jun 13, 2010 11:33:04 GMT -5
I don't think this is a work insofar as Bryan returning on Monday is concerned, but it wouldnt surprise me if it was announced on RAW that as the mastermind Danielson has been fired, and we don't see him around for a few months.
Its still hard to see where this is going to go though. I'm hoping it doesn't completely derail the NXT angle.
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Post by VINTAGE GRIDLOCK! on Jun 13, 2010 11:34:00 GMT -5
If it's legit then that sucks, but he'll turn up in TNA in 90days anyway more than likely. My only thought is if they fired him for the choking thing then why was it shown on NXT multiple times in the highlights and reviews? Plus on RAW if they didn't want to show that, they would have pulled the camera man away from that shot, not sit on it like they did. i think the point is that a main sponsor complained a couple days after the event, after RAW and NXT had been filmed & shown.
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SAJ Forth
Wade Wilson
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Post by SAJ Forth on Jun 13, 2010 11:40:08 GMT -5
I ca only imagine a main eventer doing this.
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Post by wildojinx on Jun 13, 2010 11:42:01 GMT -5
Also, if its because of a choke, then why dont they have any problem with Taker, Kane, and Big Show? When it comes to those wrestlers, the choke is an essential part of their arsenal.
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Dragonfly
Unicron
...is no Barry Windham.
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Post by Dragonfly on Jun 13, 2010 11:54:00 GMT -5
I posted (a version of) this Friday, and I'll post it again. If he was indeed fired, it went down like this:
Vince walks into a conference room packed with employees.
Vince (serious "I'm a legit businessman" voice): I am here today to announce that the WWE has released contracted talent Bryan Danielson. That'll show those Internet bastards who's boss. In other news, the parking garage closes at eight tonight and it's sloppy Joe day in the cafeteria.
Anonymous slug: Why?
Vince: Because I happen to like sloppy Joes. Do you have some sort of problem with sloppy Joes?
Slug: No... I mean the other thing.
Vince: The parking garage?
Slug: No, the firing.
Vince: We let go of Mr. Danielson because, like others before him, he did not like the idea of "sloppy Joe day." Apparently, vegans don't eat sloppy Joes.
Slug: Did you offer him something vegan friendly?
Vince: A hard roll filled with ketchup. He turned our offer of dining on said ketchup-filled roll, so we let him go.
Slug: So this has nothing to do with going off script or strangling Justin Roberts with his tie or appeasing an angry sponsor?
Vince: We at the WWE try to please all segments of society.
Slug: So this does have something to with a sponsor. Who are they? Mattel? Burger King? Castrol?
Vince: ConAgra Foods.
Slug: And they make...
Vince: Slim Jims!
Slug: And...
Vince: ...Manwich.
As far as the Meltzer "conspiracy theory" goes, I don't believe him for a second. He and Alvarez lost all credibility when they proclaimed this to be a work on Friday. It really feels like they are making things up as they go along.
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Post by Back to being Cenanuff on Jun 13, 2010 11:54:34 GMT -5
Guys, when have we known Vince to cave in to advertisers? Networks, yes, but not advertisers.
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Post by Azrael from Outerspace on Jun 13, 2010 11:56:32 GMT -5
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Post by Giant Floating Baby Head on Jun 13, 2010 11:58:18 GMT -5
You know. I'm thinking he shows up at TNA tonight. I really really hope not but that's the gut feeling I'm getting.
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