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Post by arthuradams2002 on Nov 18, 2010 22:11:48 GMT -5
Could we see a SummerSlam '97 ending to Survivor Series ? Cena is calling it down the middle. Eventually, Barrett is fed up after Cena makes too many close pinfall counts against him. Barrett starts agitating Cena, and Cena loses his cool. Cena goes to deck Barrett with a steel chair, but inadvertently hits Orton. Cena is then foced to make the cover. Remember, SS '97 was not what turned Shawn heel. It was his "I am not apologizing speech" the night after. With this scenario, everyone is a winner. - Barrett gets major heat.
- Orton stays strong because technically he never got beat.
- Cena remains a babyface because his actions were accidental.
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Post by fw91 on Nov 18, 2010 22:17:49 GMT -5
its possible, but it would seem like a letdown
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Post by lildude8218 on Nov 18, 2010 22:21:45 GMT -5
the following week, Cena sticks a Randy Orton "Viper" flag up his nose and wipes his ass with it
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Post by arthuradams2002 on Nov 18, 2010 22:30:36 GMT -5
its possible, but it would seem like a letdown Wasn't the ending the Punk vs. Taker at HITC a letdown ?
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Post by BigWill on Nov 18, 2010 22:38:23 GMT -5
Even if something like this were to happen, it wouldn't make Cena look very babyface. Even if it was an accident, if he counts the 1 2 3 after, one might still think he screwed Orton. Actually it could make for an interesting angle if it were done in a way to make it look like you weren't sure if the chair shot was an accident or intentional.
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Post by arthuradams2002 on Nov 18, 2010 22:49:52 GMT -5
Here is how I would set it up.
Orton gets hit from behind so he doesn't see what happened. He is pinned and Barrett is the new champion. Nexus storms the ring and attacks Cena. Orton wakes up, picks up the chair and starts fending off Nexus. Cena & Orton stand together in the middle of the ring. Orton doesn't know what happened because he was knocked out before the pinfall. Suddenly, the reply footage appears on the screen. Orton gives Cena a WTF face. Cena gives Orton his "look man, im sorry" face.
From then, you can either cut the PPV, or they can go back to blows like they did on Raw.
It sets up a really good scenario for the following Raws. Orton and Cena are faces who don't get along, but they have to stick to together because they still are at odds with Nexus. From there, the WWE can slowly build to a Orton/Cena babyface vs. babyface at WrestleMania.
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Post by Ragnal on Nov 18, 2010 22:51:49 GMT -5
Even if something like this were to happen, it wouldn't make Cena look very babyface. Even if it was an accident, if he counts the 1 2 3 after, one might still think he screwed Orton. Actually it could make for an interesting angle if it were done in a way to make it look like you weren't sure if the chair shot was an accident or intentional. This is the same John Cena that made it clear a week after HIAC that despite forced to join Nexus he wasn't turning heel. I'm positive somehow they'll make sure it was an accident, sweep it under the rug, and forget it ever happened so Cena can never develop as a character.
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Post by arthuradams2002 on Nov 18, 2010 22:53:30 GMT -5
Iv been to live events recently, and Cena's merchandise to WAY too hot from them to pull the plug on now.
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on Nov 18, 2010 23:44:47 GMT -5
Even if something like this were to happen, it wouldn't make Cena look very babyface. Even if it was an accident, if he counts the 1 2 3 after, one might still think he screwed Orton. Actually it could make for an interesting angle if it were done in a way to make it look like you weren't sure if the chair shot was an accident or intentional. Vince is actually on board of the "turning Cena heel" bandwagon, and this is as good a time to pull the trigger.
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Post by joeskvorecky on Nov 19, 2010 0:07:40 GMT -5
Even if something like this were to happen, it wouldn't make Cena look very babyface. Even if it was an accident, if he counts the 1 2 3 after, one might still think he screwed Orton. Actually it could make for an interesting angle if it were done in a way to make it look like you weren't sure if the chair shot was an accident or intentional. Vince is actually on board of the "turning Cena heel" bandwagon, and this is as good a time to pull the trigger. Did he tell you that, Ace?
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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on Nov 19, 2010 0:42:51 GMT -5
I like it, it teases a heel turn nicely, and keeps him as a firm babyface for the time being, while putting the belt on Barrett and making him the man to beat.
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Post by ejt713 on Nov 19, 2010 0:45:31 GMT -5
Here is how I would set it up. Orton gets hit from behind so he doesn't see what happened. He is pinned and Barrett is the new champion. Nexus storms the ring and attacks Cena. Orton wakes up, picks up the chair and starts fending off Nexus. Cena & Orton stand together in the middle of the ring. Orton doesn't know what happened because he was knocked out before the pinfall. Suddenly, the reply footage appears on the screen. Orton gives Cena a WTF face. Cena gives Orton his "look man, im sorry" face. From then, you can either cut the PPV, or they can go back to blows like they did on Raw. It sets up a really good scenario for the following Raws. Orton and Cena are faces who don't get along, but they have to stick to together because they still are at odds with Nexus. From there, the WWE can slowly build to a Orton/Cena babyface vs. babyface at WrestleMania. that makes a whole lot of sense... its just that would kind of be a let down after the huge build up
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Nov 19, 2010 7:24:28 GMT -5
its possible, but it would seem like a letdown Wasn't the ending the Punk vs. Taker at HITC a letdown ? What does that have to do with anything?
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Nov 19, 2010 7:32:39 GMT -5
I'd be in favor of any "accidental" finish so long as Cena is openly weeping while he counts the pin on Orton.
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Post by big nasty on Nov 19, 2010 7:57:39 GMT -5
Here is how I would set it up. Orton gets hit from behind so he doesn't see what happened. He is pinned and Barrett is the new champion. Nexus storms the ring and attacks Cena. Orton wakes up, picks up the chair and starts fending off Nexus. Cena & Orton stand together in the middle of the ring. Orton doesn't know what happened because he was knocked out before the pinfall. Suddenly, the reply footage appears on the screen. Orton gives Cena a WTF face. Cena gives Orton his "look man, im sorry" face. From then, you can either cut the PPV, or they can go back to blows like they did on Raw. It sets up a really good scenario for the following Raws. Orton and Cena are faces who don't get along, but they have to stick to together because they still are at odds with Nexus. From there, the WWE can slowly build to a Orton/Cena babyface vs. babyface at WrestleMania. that makes a whole lot of sense... its just that would kind of be a let down after the huge build up its called South Park booking or Blue Balls booking, whatever you prefer
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Post by AndyUK on Nov 19, 2010 8:14:46 GMT -5
I certainly think it's possible because I don't see Cena turning randomly turning and joining Nexus out of nowhere. I'd mark for that but it wouldn't make any sense and as much as people like to bitch about the writers, they don't seem like they're in the ''SWEVE'' mould. Most of their stuff is logical. If a heel turn is going to happen, it will probably be a slow burner.
As long as this match ends up leading to Barrett/Cena, Cena/Orton or Barrett/Cena/Orton at Wrestlemania then I'm happy but I can't wait to see what they do on Sunday.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2010 8:26:43 GMT -5
I'd enjoy that kind of finish, although something like what happened last week wouldn't be a problem either (even though Nexus is supposedly banned from ringside). I don't know what R-Truth and Orton got so bent out of shape about. Cena saw possible interference and tried to head that off at the pass, then somebody blasted Orton while Cena wasn't looking. John was only doing his job. What were we taught by Jim Ross all these years? "The ref can only call what he sees."
Now, what would have made it appear a little more shady is if Cena had to run off the interference on the Titantron side, saw the interference behind his back happening on the screen, yet counted the pin anyway. I think that would have built more intrigue...and set a standard for all future referees. The Titantron is your friend.
(Ooh, a layered storyline. I'm impressed with myself.)
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Post by BigWill on Nov 19, 2010 9:03:43 GMT -5
For some reason I got the idea in my head that maybe R-Truth might inject himself in the feud somehow. R-Truth has been goading on this feud for a few weeks, and I think he will have some hand in how the match ends, as random as that sounds.
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on Nov 19, 2010 10:21:07 GMT -5
Vince is actually on board of the "turning Cena heel" bandwagon, and this is as good a time to pull the trigger. Did he tell you that, Ace? I may not be Ace, but the news has been rampant on this for months now.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Nov 19, 2010 10:33:48 GMT -5
Here is how I would set it up. Orton gets hit from behind so he doesn't see what happened. He is pinned and Barrett is the new champion. Nexus storms the ring and attacks Cena. Orton wakes up, picks up the chair and starts fending off Nexus. Cena & Orton stand together in the middle of the ring. Orton doesn't know what happened because he was knocked out before the pinfall. Suddenly, the reply footage appears on the screen. Orton gives Cena a WTF face. Cena gives Orton his "look man, im sorry" face. From then, you can either cut the PPV, or they can go back to blows like they did on Raw. It sets up a really good scenario for the following Raws. Orton and Cena are faces who don't get along, but they have to stick to together because they still are at odds with Nexus. From there, the WWE can slowly build to a Orton/Cena babyface vs. babyface at WrestleMania. Because you know we just need another Orton vs. Cena match. How is that even Mania worthy anymore. That match up been over played now. There is noway I would spend the Mania price to see the same match again. When I came pick about every other raw over the summer to watch them fight again. Or go and find a bunch of PPVs a could years ago when they again where facing off. These days Cena vs. Orton is just a stale to watch as HHH vs. Orton.
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