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Post by Dave at the Movies on Sept 26, 2010 5:24:51 GMT -5
I haven't heard anything new on it in a few weeks. It was confirmed by the actual people behind it that the WWP Twitter that was announcing talent is fake and was taken down.
Talent that has been confirmed signed that I've heard is Scott Steiner, Booker T, Paul London, TJ Perkins, Sean Waltman, Vader, Rocky Romero, Sabu, and Too Cold Scorpio
I've heard they have around fifty to sixty wrestlers signed which is hard to believe since I don't WWE even has that many on their main rosters altogether.
Has anyone heard anything new? It's only about three months until it is suppose to start.
If it doesn't get going by January or February and gets pushed back again I think they have to pay out the contracts to the wrestlers already signed.
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Sept 26, 2010 5:30:19 GMT -5
I haven't heard anything since Shawn Spears was confused about being signed, when he wasn't.
And I still think this whole thing is just a bunch of Bullshit.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Sept 26, 2010 6:08:39 GMT -5
I haven't heard anything since Shawn Spears was confused about being signed, when he wasn't. And I still think this whole thing is just a bunch of Bulls***. I don't think it is all bull. I believe the backers are just keeping real queit because they may already have some big names from wwe and TNA lined up to come in. A promotion that offers health insurance and stock in the company is very huge and controversial so much in fact that WWE and TNA may try to stop it from ever materializing. I could see big names like MVP and John Morrison jumping ship because they dont believe they are being used to their full potential. To me there has been way too much buzz on it to be completely bull.
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Sept 26, 2010 11:58:12 GMT -5
The mystical third promotion with a wealthy backer has been sporadically appearing in the sheets for years and never materialised.
The only difference now is that Bischoff is in TNA he isn't being mentioned as the man behind it.
And honestly, even if they raided feasible talent from TNA and WWE, I can't see where it would be possible that enough of the "50-60" guys would have name value to justify the investment and make enough back.
Really, if a new promotion was to become a 'big' company, it would either be via starting small and building (which is a slow and risky business) or investing heavily in an already existing promotion, where you endanger the existing loyal fanbase and have the same problem of making it financially worthwhile.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Sept 26, 2010 18:12:25 GMT -5
Last I heard they pushed the start back to "sometime in 2011" and their head of talent relations, Mister Saint Lauraune (I butchered that name, sorry) left after never getting the contract he was promised.
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Sept 26, 2010 18:31:54 GMT -5
I haven't heard anything since Shawn Spears was confused about being signed, when he wasn't. And I still think this whole thing is just a bunch of Bulls***. I don't think it is all bull. I believe the backers are just keeping real queit because they may already have some big names from wwe and TNA lined up to come in. A promotion that offers health insurance and stock in the company is very huge and controversial so much in fact that WWE and TNA may try to stop it from ever materializing. I could see big names like MVP and John Morrison jumping ship because they dont believe they are being used to their full potential. To me there has been way too much buzz on it to be completely bull. No way any of those guys risk pissing off the WWE to jump ship to some new company that has no history, no fans, and no guarantee of ever being anything big, health care or not. Still, I call bull until this thing actually kicks off it's first show and is all the things it says it is. (I could see it basically just being another shitty Indy fed with old WWE/WCW guys and nothing more, if anything.)
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Sept 26, 2010 22:33:37 GMT -5
I don't think it is all bull. I believe the backers are just keeping real queit because they may already have some big names from wwe and TNA lined up to come in. A promotion that offers health insurance and stock in the company is very huge and controversial so much in fact that WWE and TNA may try to stop it from ever materializing. I could see big names like MVP and John Morrison jumping ship because they dont believe they are being used to their full potential. To me there has been way too much buzz on it to be completely bull. No way any of those guys risk pissing off the WWE to jump ship to some new company that has no history, no fans, and no guarantee of ever being anything big, health care or not. Still, I call bull until this thing actually kicks off it's first show and is all the things it says it is. (I could see it basically just being another s***ty Indy fed with old WWE/WCW guys and nothing more, if anything.) Yeah there has been quite a few sketchy things about it. If it is just some jackoff promoter in Florida stringing wrestlers along I hope they sue his ass.
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Post by BorneAgain on Sept 27, 2010 1:21:55 GMT -5
Booker's working down in Mexico, so either he's doing in the interim or has found an alternative.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Sept 27, 2010 2:03:56 GMT -5
Booker's working down in Mexico, so either he's doing in the interim or has found an alternative. Is he working for cmll or aaa?
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Post by JMA on Sept 27, 2010 3:11:55 GMT -5
Promoters who claim they're starting a promotion should be forced to live up to their word (even if they run out of money). One shouldn't be allowed to fake something like opening a promotion and then get away with it.
Hopefully this thing is legit, but my gut says it isn't.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Sept 27, 2010 6:46:04 GMT -5
I hope this promotion starts soon, sounds so interesting
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Post by ICBM on Sept 27, 2010 9:43:34 GMT -5
I have never believed the hype on this thing. If it ever happens in any form I will be suprized
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Post by shadowangel on Sept 27, 2010 11:00:03 GMT -5
I already lost some hope. In the beginnig everything sounded really good but now, some months later....either it's complete bullshit or it's a lot smaller then it sounded at first.
I still hope that there will be a new wrestling promotion with a shitload of money, who bring back real wrestling into the mainstream and kick WWE's ass from here to eternity ;D
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Post by BorneAgain on Sept 27, 2010 14:26:03 GMT -5
Booker's working down in Mexico, so either he's doing in the interim or has found an alternative. Is he working for cmll or aaa? Perros del Mal in association with AAA.
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Post by thesam07 on Sept 28, 2010 6:36:11 GMT -5
I think it would be awesome if they revealed Prince Nana was one of the backers.
I dunno, I think that would be kind of awesome.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Sept 28, 2010 12:20:43 GMT -5
Is he working for cmll or aaa? Perros del Mal in association with AAA. Cool. That Perros Del Mal group is getting really really popular. They might become the number two promotion some day down there.
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Sept 28, 2010 12:26:56 GMT -5
Promoters who claim they're starting a promotion should be forced to live up to their word (even if they run out of money). One shouldn't be allowed to fake something like opening a promotion and then get away with it. Hopefully this thing is legit, but my gut says it isn't. Starting up a business isn't exactly easy. Things fall through all the time starting businesses. Bad partners, deals fall through you thought you had... Forcing one to start a business that they know will fail because the chips didn't fall the way they needed them too is assanine and would actually be the worst thing for everyone involved.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Sept 28, 2010 12:32:08 GMT -5
Honestly the only way I see this promotion doing any good is if they have a major TV deal right out the gate.
Health insurance and stock in the company is okay but without TV you have nothing.
If TNA lost their Spike TV deal they would be screwed. No one would want to work there because half the reason guys work there is for the TV exposure so that they can charge indy groups more money when they wrestle for them.(they sure as hell aren't staying in TNA for the money. I've heard the midcard and knockouts and lowercard hardly make anything. Probably make more then they would in the indies but not by much.)
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Sept 28, 2010 12:55:05 GMT -5
Honestly the only way I see this promotion doing any good is if they have a major TV deal right out the gate. Isn't the rumored backer linked to FOX Sports or something?
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Post by nm on Sept 28, 2010 13:26:28 GMT -5
This has been fishy since day one since it was announced it was funded by a family member of the New York Mets owner, "Milton Wilpon". When nobody had ever heard of him and nothing comes up on him in a google search.
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