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Post by Zabel Zarock on Jan 30, 2013 18:59:24 GMT -5
Oh, right. But the Japanese VA were against that idea since they enjoyed their characters. Or rather, because Kira, Athrun, Lacus, and Cagalli were extremely over with the Japanese viewers, and their fans would have rioted if Fukuda went through with the original plans. I don't think the VAs have a lot of pull on their characters; I can't see Soichiro Hoshi (Kira's VA) going Triple H on Fukuda. YOu would be surprised how much pull Japanese VAs have.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 30, 2013 19:34:33 GMT -5
It just wouldn't suit the tone of SEED at all, though, to kill off everyone.
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Post by Zabel Zarock on Jan 30, 2013 19:50:25 GMT -5
It onyl seems that way in hindsight, I could ver well see it happening and fitting ebfore SEED became really light in that last half, the everyone lives thing irked me because it really didn't fit in with the pretty butal middle. Things looked downright bleak as hell at times in SEED, still surprised Yzak still never got any real commeuppance for destroying the Civilian shuttle.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 30, 2013 20:03:17 GMT -5
It onyl seems that way in hindsight, I could ver well see it happening and fitting ebfore SEED became really light in that last half, the everyone lives thing irked me because it really didn't fit in with the pretty butal middle. Things looked downright bleak as hell at times in SEED, still surprised Yzak still never got any real commeuppance for destroying the Civilian shuttle. I suppose he never did, but I guess the story was more Yzak seeing that Dearka was right and being redeemed, which I guess I am fine with as Dearka and Yzak are my favorite SEED characters. To be fair, Yzak only really shot the shuttle because he thought that officers were abandoning ship to save their own skins. It is a situation that could have been easily averted if the Archangel's crew had broadcast that they were letting civilians escape. At worse, ZAFT probably would have taken the shuttle into custody to interrogate the occupants, but this is before ZAFT had gone completely insane, so they likely would have been released alive. IT was just a horrible misunderstanding, rather than Yzak being a cold blooded killer.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2013 11:54:34 GMT -5
It just wouldn't suit the tone of SEED at all, though, to kill off everyone. No, it wouldn't. That's one of the things that gives me a problem with Gundam. I'm alright with killing characters if it is to service the point of the story and to drive emotion, but random deaths are pointless and can be downright mean. I do have to ask this; you all know who my favorite character is. However, I do have to ask... is something wrong with me for caring about (and even celebrating) Nena? I know she's an evil character, but in my opinion, if that one random instance hadn't occured in the plot, she wouldn't be considered that evil. Plus, it's not like I am a fan of her's just because she's cute (which, is probably the only reason for most people who like Nena for doing so), but rather that I liked her personality. However... we're all entitled to our opinions. And... what do you think about the idea of a Dynasty Warriors Gundam 4? I know the series is clunky and bad, and the last game was heavily grilled, but I wouldn't mind seeing it for the hell of it.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 31, 2013 14:37:55 GMT -5
I kinda like the Dynasty Warrior Gundam games, so I'd be down with it. It's more likely than me getting a second MS Saga with 00 and SEED mobile suits.
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Post by Zabel Zarock on Jan 31, 2013 19:59:39 GMT -5
DWG3 was actualyl pretty solid, the combat system had some depth in it if you chose to look into, so many cool techniques in Jump and Dash cancel that people found. And yeah I agree about Nena, her shooting the wedding was to random for my taste and I felt pretty bad for her at the end of S1 and S2 when she was forced to work witht he people that killed her brothers. Then throw in how lazy they set up homegirl gettign her revenger on her and it was just bad all around.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 31, 2013 20:43:14 GMT -5
It would have probably made more sense if Michael did it, since he's such an overly hostile ass hat. That said, it'd have robbed us of Ali-Al Saachez's interaction with them, which was one of the most gratifying moments of the first season. Though, I will say it was part of them somewhat overpushing him.
What is it with mercenary sociopaths being inexplicably good mobile suit/mech pilots, like him and Gauron?
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Post by hassanchop on Feb 1, 2013 6:41:56 GMT -5
They get a kick out of what they do, especially when there is a chance they will die, especially in Gauron's case.
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Post by Hugh Mungus on Feb 1, 2013 8:15:57 GMT -5
Or rather, because Kira, Athrun, Lacus, and Cagalli were extremely over with the Japanese viewers, and their fans would have rioted if Fukuda went through with the original plans. I don't think the VAs have a lot of pull on their characters; I can't see Soichiro Hoshi (Kira's VA) going Triple H on Fukuda. YOu would be surprised how much pull Japanese VAs have. I'm guessing that in terms of what happens behind-the-scenes, the Japanese VA industry isn't that different from Hollywood, professional wrestling, or any industry. I can understand that the VAs becoming attached to their characters over time, but I don't think that they don't have the stroke to overrule Fukuda. If he's to be believed, Fukuda stated in a 2003 interview Andrew was supposed to stay dead, but was revived because of "a lack of cool adult characters", and that he liked Ryotaro Okiayu's (Treize's VA) performance as Andrew. I'm guessing that said quote may apply to Mu La Flaga's revival in Destiny. So far, only two people has confirmed about their acting experiences in Seed and Destiny: - Rie Tanaka, at her appearance at the 2008 NY Anime Festival, said that Lacus was the hardest role she played so far, because she had to act in a certain way
- Kenichi Suzumura said Shinn in SRW-Z was "the true Shinn in his heart", when comparing Shinn in SRW-Z vs. Shinn in GSD, partly because he got to play Shinn as he envisioned
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2013 12:13:28 GMT -5
It would have probably made more sense if Michael did it, since he's such an overly hostile ass hat. That said, it'd have robbed us of Ali-Al Saachez's interaction with them, which was one of the most gratifying moments of the first season. Though, I will say it was part of them somewhat overpushing him. What is it with mercenary sociopaths being inexplicably good mobile suit/mech pilots, like him and Gauron? It was established that Michael was the guy who liked seeing things and people blown up, so it would've made sense for him to do it, as opposed to someone who basically was a little kid in a teenager's body. Having Nena do it to me still feels random. My gut feeling is that they get a rush of adrenaline out of doing their job, and doing it well. That alone is the drive they need to be good pilots. DWG3 was actualyl pretty solid, the combat system had some depth in it if you chose to look into, so many cool techniques in Jump and Dash cancel that people found. And yeah I agree about Nena, her shooting the wedding was to random for my taste and I felt pretty bad for her at the end of S1 and S2 when she was forced to work witht he people that killed her brothers. Then throw in how lazy they set up homegirl gettign her revenger on her and it was just bad all around. Well, to be honest, I haven't quite had the full gameplay experience needed to enjoy the game, but I will try to play DWG. I'm hoping that, if they do DWG4, they would release a port for the 3DS.
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