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Post by Zabel Zarock on Aug 27, 2011 22:25:30 GMT -5
One thing you also have to take into acout, by the mid point of the series Amuro was taking on things that were far and above the level of the RX nad he was constantly facing Zeon's very best pilots. Other than Zechs and Noin who did Heero fight that really pushed him? Amuro had to take on a ton of aces such as Char, Ridden, Mquve, Guss, Dozle Zabi, The Black Tri-Stars, and Rambal Ral.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 27, 2011 22:33:51 GMT -5
One thing you also have to take into acout, by the mid point of the series Amuro was taking on things that were far and above the level of the RX nad he was constantly facing Zeon's very best pilots. Other than Zechs and Noin who did Heero fight that really pushed him? Amuro had to take on a ton of aces such as Char, Ridden, Mquve, Guss, Dozle Zabi, The Black Tri-Stars, and Rambal Ral. I am only on Episode 35, but the mobile dolls, particularly the Taurus ones, are good at taking them to their limits. Even Zechs had a lot of trouble with them, ultimately being too fast for even the Tallgeese.
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Post by Hugh Mungus on Aug 27, 2011 22:33:58 GMT -5
One thing I really like about the SRW Z series, it treats Shinn Asuka with the respect he never got in his own show. I've heard many people say the games treated Destiny better than Destiny did. ;D Kenichi Suzumura (Shinn's VA) was quoted as saying that the SRW-Z incarnation of Shinn was " the true Shinn in his heart". In February 2011, Mitsuo Fukuda commented on his Twitter (fukuda320) that he was disappointed on how GSD was represented in the SRW games (specifically, Z and L). On a side note, Suzumura and Maaya Sakamoto (Lunamaria in GSD) recently got married.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 27, 2011 22:36:52 GMT -5
I've heard many people say the games treated Destiny better than Destiny did. ;D Kenichi Suzumura (Shinn's VA) was quoted as saying that the SRW-Z incarnation of Shinn was " the true Shinn in his heart". In February 2011, Mitsuo Fukuda commented on his Twitter (fukuda320) that he was disappointed on how GSD was represented in the SRW games (specifically, Z and L). On a side note, Suzumura and Maaya Sakamoto (Lunamaria in GSD) recently got married. Congrats to them! As awesome as the Archangel is, in SRWJ, I did notice that the Nadesico is honestly a more useful ship, especially after half the damn crew is gone. I mean, it's not like Natarle was amazing or anything, but it was a whole Spirit list gone.
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Post by Zabel Zarock on Aug 27, 2011 23:03:20 GMT -5
Fukuda is an idiot and one of the main reasons we may never see Cagalii again due to Naomi Shindō refusing to ever work with him or Morosawa ever again. Naomi is far to respected for them to just get someone else, it like how their was a huge uproar over Namco getting a new Seiyu for Heihachi when his original died.
And yeah the Nadiesco ship was goddamn amazing.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 27, 2011 23:06:43 GMT -5
Fukuda is an idiot and one of the main reasons we may never see Cagalii again due to Naomi Shindō refusing to ever work with him or Morosawa ever again. Naomi is far to respected for them to just get someone else, it like how their was a huge uproar over Namco getting a new Seiyu for Heihachi when his original died. And yeah the Nadiesco ship was goddamn amazing. Seriously! It could take out dozens of guys per battle, with Zeal and two great map attacks. Cagalli was one of my favorites, so if that is true, that is a let down.
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Post by Zabel Zarock on Aug 27, 2011 23:17:56 GMT -5
Fukuda is an idiot and one of the main reasons we may never see Cagalii again due to Naomi Shindō refusing to ever work with him or Morosawa ever again. Naomi is far to respected for them to just get someone else, it like how their was a huge uproar over Namco getting a new Seiyu for Heihachi when his original died. And yeah the Nadiesco ship was goddamn amazing. Seriously! It could take out dozens of guys per battle, with Zeal and two great map attacks. Cagalli was one of my favorites, so if that is true, that is a let down. Yeah it's why she had so little in the way of lines during the end of Destiny and felt like nothing. The whole Destiny situation was a good example of how one person being insecure as f*** and favoring certain characters can completely tank a show.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Aug 27, 2011 23:29:54 GMT -5
I will give you that heero at the beginning of the series got his ass handed to him by pretty much everyone he came across. Zechs took him down with the tallgeese 1 which was basically a leo with a face lift. But by the end of the series heero is pretty gawd damn formidable fighting evenly with zechs and the epyon. Epyon looks awesome. That's usually the first thought I get whenever I think of Gundam Wing.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 27, 2011 23:40:32 GMT -5
I will give you that heero at the beginning of the series got his ass handed to him by pretty much everyone he came across. Zechs took him down with the tallgeese 1 which was basically a leo with a face lift. But by the end of the series heero is pretty gawd damn formidable fighting evenly with zechs and the epyon. Epyon looks awesome. That's usually the first thought I get whenever I think of Gundam Wing. A great suit. That said, "Leo with a Facelift" is like describing a Ferrari as a Gremlin with a different frame.
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Post by Zabel Zarock on Aug 27, 2011 23:45:14 GMT -5
Well the Talgeese 1 was just a Leo with a new paint job, helmet, and thrusters.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Aug 27, 2011 23:47:54 GMT -5
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 27, 2011 23:52:12 GMT -5
Well the Talgeese 1 was just a Leo with a new paint job, helmet, and thrusters. Well, those thrusters make a HUGE difference, not to mention the Dober gun it is armed with. It was stronger than a Leo, anyway, since it could withstand multiple missile strikes from a Cancer and Pisces.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 28, 2011 0:05:12 GMT -5
Man, when the hell does Heero even get the Wing Zero? It's episode 35, and he's been in it like once.
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Post by CMWaters on Aug 28, 2011 0:11:31 GMT -5
Something random I just thought about Gundam wise...
Have there ever been any legal issues between Lucasarts and the creators of Gundam for the Gundams using what are essentially lightsabers sometimes?
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 28, 2011 0:15:03 GMT -5
Something random I just thought about Gundam wise... Have there ever been any legal issues between Lucasarts and the creators of Gundam for the Gundams using what are essentially lightsabers sometimes? Not sure. I know they always call them beam sabers. Maybe they get away with it since it's always the gundams using the swords, nothing human sized, as far as I know.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2011 0:27:45 GMT -5
Man, when the hell does Heero even get the Wing Zero? It's episode 35, and he's been in it like once. For a pilot that is seemingly so close to his gundam (talks to it and it responds like it is sentient) he sure does spend alot of time in other cockpits doesn't he lol.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 28, 2011 0:36:22 GMT -5
Man, when the hell does Heero even get the Wing Zero? It's episode 35, and he's been in it like once. For a pilot that is seemingly so close to his gundam (talks to it and it responds like it is sentient) he sure does spend alot of time in other cockpits doesn't he lol. And everyone gets a turn with his Zero. It's kind of a promiscuous mech, isn't it?
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 28, 2011 1:12:14 GMT -5
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Post by Hugh Mungus on Aug 28, 2011 1:42:01 GMT -5
Fukuda is an idiot and one of the main reasons we may never see Cagalii again due to Naomi Shindō refusing to ever work with him or Morosawa ever again. Naomi is far to respected for them to just get someone else, it like how their was a huge uproar over Namco getting a new Seiyu for Heihachi when his original died. Cagalli was one of my favorites, so if that is true, that is a let down. As for why: Also, it was rumored that Fukuda and Morosawa were very demanding on the VAs (specifically, Suzumura, Sakamoto, Shindo, and Rie Tanaka, who, at her appearance at the 2008 NY Anime Festival, admitted that Lacus was the hardest role she played so far). Recently, according to Fukuda's Twitter (via the Animesuki forums), Seed is going to be given the HD treatment, to be released in time for Seed's 10th anniversary. As for the Seed movie, Morosawa claimed in 2008 that the outline was completed, but was placed in indefinite hiatus because she became ill (contrary to online reports, it's not cancer of any type). My cynical side tells me that Morosawa's "illness" means that she's going through a Hideaki Anno (circa Evangelion)-esque severe depression phrase. I forgot to mention that it's not only Shindo who refuse to work with Fukuda/Morosawa, it's pretty much almost the entire Seed VAs refuse to work with them, but they (save for Shindo) are willing to reprise their roles in various spinoff works.
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Post by CMWaters on Aug 28, 2011 1:49:22 GMT -5
For a pilot that is seemingly so close to his gundam (talks to it and it responds like it is sentient) he sure does spend alot of time in other cockpits doesn't he lol. And everyone gets a turn with his Zero. It's kind of a promiscuous mech, isn't it? "It's the Village Gundam, EVERYONE'S had a ride!"
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