Fang
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Post by Fang on Jan 15, 2011 8:10:46 GMT -5
I don't understand why anyone is saying "good for them". It's obvious that both of them needed the time down there since neither one of them can wrestle. It just sounds like they thought they were too good to gut it out like everyone else because we all know they contribute SO much.
It's a shame this didn't happen in OVW when Cornette was running it. I'm sure his rant would have been amazing.
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Post by rogers67 on Jan 15, 2011 8:12:28 GMT -5
Colt could have done the same. IF there was two of him. Don't underestimate the twin factor. I don't think Johnny Ace swings that way. you would think he would considering all the muscular men he has in his company |
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Post by Brian Suntan on Jan 15, 2011 8:15:24 GMT -5
I don't understand why anyone is saying "good for them". It's obvious that both of them needed the time down there since neither one of them can wrestle. It just sounds like they thought they were too good to gut it out like everyone else because we all know they contribute SO much. It's a shame this didn't happen in OVW when Cornette was running it. I'm sure his rant would have been amazing. Because it's over two years later and they are still prominently featured and have been earning good money. Meanwhile people like Colt got fired and is back on the independant scene. Like I said, I wouldn't have done it, but if it worked for them then great. It's a tough business and they're doing well out of it. I'm sure Colt would swap places with them, even if he did have to be Daniel Bryan's love interest. |
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Post by HRH The KING on Jan 15, 2011 8:30:27 GMT -5
The WWE could not survive without the Bellas.
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Post by Piccolo on Jan 15, 2011 9:28:48 GMT -5
I don't understand why anyone is saying "good for them". It's obvious that both of them needed the time down there since neither one of them can wrestle. It just sounds like they thought they were too good to gut it out like everyone else because we all know they contribute SO much. Immediately after I said good for them, I explained why I'd said it. I'll reiterate though. Women aren't valued in WWE for their wrestling skills. They're valued for their youth and their good looks. Youth and good looks fade with time, and if you're going to waste that time in developmental learning how to wrestle, when no one cares about how well you wrestle anyway, you're squandering your chance. You're gonna be released in five seconds if five years pass and you become a good wrestler, but you're older and less hot than the next underwear model who's caught their eye. They clearly knew that, and they were clearly correct, because their demand paid off. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2011 11:08:40 GMT -5
Women aren't valued in WWE for their wrestling skills. Please explain, then, why Nattie, Beth, Melina and Michelle are the cornerstones of the Women's division and why the eyecandy divas like Maryse and Kelly are neither featured as prominently or pushed as heavily as any of those four. |
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Post by Piccolo on Jan 15, 2011 12:06:03 GMT -5
Women aren't valued in WWE for their wrestling skills. Please explain, then, why Nattie, Beth, Melina and Michelle are the cornerstones of the Women's division and why the eyecandy divas like Maryse and Kelly are neither featured as prominently or pushed as heavily as any of those four. As soon as you explain to me how Kelly Kelly was hired after the officials saw her outstanding ring work on the independent circuit.  Look, I'm not saying there are no good wrestlers in the women's division. I'm saying that you don't have to be a good wrestler to be on the show, so why spend a lot of time in developmental? If you know you're only there because you're pretty, why beat around the bush and pretend they've hired you for any other reason? Make your money while the reason you're there- your appearance- is still at its peak. |
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Post by Paco on Jan 15, 2011 12:27:02 GMT -5
How about that time Bret Hart went down to developmental...
Colt and someone else were having a match just for him and the Bellas end up sitting next to him during it. It goes without saying Bret stopped paying attention to the match.
Those girls know how to get ahead.
Maybe the "star f***er" gimmick wasn't so far fetched.
Anyway, to use a Simpsons comparison maybe the Bellas are Homer to Colt's Frank Grimes ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2011 12:52:32 GMT -5
I disagree with Colt on one thing, he wasn't going anywhere in developmental anyway why not just grow some balls and do it? Not slamming him but sometimes, in ANY job you have to let the higher ups know you WANT it, not just be happy to shuffle around and earn your rep or however it worked in the old days, WWE is a farm league now you can't depend on them to actually NOTICE talent. Kinda hard to move up in developmental when, according to Colt, you have people in charge openly calling you "Kike Cabana". |
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Post by Andrew is Good on Jan 15, 2011 13:21:14 GMT -5
I think they were able to get away with it because they can do other modeling jobs, because they're a novelty act. WWE needed objects that looked the same, and that's what they got. They wanted to do the whole, twins fantasy deal and Colt Cabana can't clone himself. Yet.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Jan 15, 2011 13:23:10 GMT -5
I disagree with Colt on one thing, he wasn't going anywhere in developmental anyway why not just grow some balls and do it? Not slamming him but sometimes, in ANY job you have to let the higher ups know you WANT it, not just be happy to shuffle around and earn your rep or however it worked in the old days, WWE is a farm league now you can't depend on them to actually NOTICE talent. Kinda hard to move up in developmental when, according to Colt, you have people in charge openly calling you "Kike Cabana". Colt should have said something about that, like, I know he didn't want to rock the boat, but that is completely f***ed up. Also, Nick Dinsmore did the same thing. He said if he wasn't gonna get called up, he'd quit because he was down for 7 years, and he ended up getting up. I don't think it happens to everyone, and may not have happened with Colt, saying as how they didn't want to use him anyway. Or Colt could have at least told it to someone who didn't give a f***, like when R-Truth was told wrestling was a white man's business, and he told Road Dogg. Truth didn't want to rock the boat, but Road Dogg was livid and called up both Jim Ross and Bruce Prichard for telling him that, like, called them up to yell at them. |
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Post by Talent Name on Jan 15, 2011 13:56:27 GMT -5
Even when Colt was called up he got stuck with Scotty Goldman like how cliche of a Jewish name can you get so yes i do believe there is still racism in the E but I would be happy with less bella on my tv and more actual diva wrestling. For once the knockout division is looking good again WWE dropped the ball on Katie Lea and they should bring up AJ cause she is ready to be brought up and Tamina is a beautiful lady
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 15, 2011 15:39:01 GMT -5
That's why they call 'em divas, folks.
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Post by Stevie H on Jan 15, 2011 16:21:38 GMT -5
The old saying is "You don't ask, you don't get". I think the Bella Twins had the right attitude about it.
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Post by Alex Shelley on Jan 15, 2011 16:23:53 GMT -5
If there were two Colt Cabanas the world would be a much better place.
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Post by The F'N Captain on Jan 15, 2011 16:36:34 GMT -5
I disagree with Colt on one thing, he wasn't going anywhere in developmental anyway why not just grow some balls and do it? Not slamming him but sometimes, in ANY job you have to let the higher ups know you WANT it, not just be happy to shuffle around and earn your rep or however it worked in the old days, WWE is a farm league now you can't depend on them to actually NOTICE talent. That's really easy to say when you're not in that position. I just don't think Colt is that type of guy (Kaval maybe is given how he supposedly left WWE). I think his plan is to keep his head down, work hard and hope the rewards come after that. I'd be the same. Again not slamming him, and I'd love to have Cabana on my tv than the Bellas anyday, just saying even if you don't like them the Bellas pulled a bold move and it paid off. It's possible Colt could have used his ties to Punk for more leeway but hey he doesn't seem very fond of the politic game. Sadly if you work hard hone your craft, and develop your talent, you sometimes get crap-all for your effort. Someone brought up Dinsmore, a guy who was a mainstay on WWE for three or four years, but he'll never be remembered as an excellent wrestler or amazing promo guy, he'll always be Eric Bischoff's mentally challenged nephew or whatever who people got sick as hell of after a while. |
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Jan 15, 2011 17:22:28 GMT -5
I like Colt and I think if NTX was around when he was, he'd still be working for them. He's tailor made for the PG era, they just mis-handled him upon his Smackdown debut. Hell, if he was put on ECW or if there was Superstars when he was there, he could have had the opportunity to make something happen.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jan 15, 2011 17:40:54 GMT -5
Did they call Johnny Ace, by any chance? They're still there so twas THAT kinda call. They didn't say they'd quit their jobs, they said they quit 'jobs, so... |
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Post by "Dashing" Dr.VonPhoenix on Jan 15, 2011 17:43:18 GMT -5
I don't understand why anyone is saying "good for them". It's obvious that both of them needed the time down there since neither one of them can wrestle. It just sounds like they thought they were too good to gut it out like everyone else because we all know they contribute SO much. Immediately after I said good for them, I explained why I'd said it. I'll reiterate though. Women aren't valued in WWE for their wrestling skills. They're valued for their youth and their good looks. Youth and good looks fade with time, and if you're going to waste that time in developmental learning how to wrestle, when no one cares about how well you wrestle anyway, you're squandering your chance. You're gonna be released in five seconds if five years pass and you become a good wrestler, but you're older and less hot than the next underwear model who's caught their eye. They clearly knew that, and they were clearly correct, because their demand paid off. I don't see how anyone can dispute the points you've made here. WWE has spent a lot of time over the years driving said points home, and most fans would probably agree to them. The Bellas did what they had to do to ensure some kind of job opportunity. I'm not going to sit here and fault them for that. Most people DON'T care about whether or not the Divas can wrestle. Why fool yourself into thinking that they do? |
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