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Post by CM Dazz on Jan 1, 2011 15:59:10 GMT -5
Should have been the Higher Power. I thought/hoped back then that Roberts would be the guy, but obviously it was Vince.
Roberts was evil personified, and if he was the guy pulling the strings for the Undertaker and The Ministry, it would have been amazing!
Who did you think the Higher Power was, and who did you want it to be?
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Post by Legion on Jan 1, 2011 16:09:29 GMT -5
I remember reading at the time that Ted Dibiase was a strong rumour, probably because of the connection between him and Austin and the fact he had had a Corperation before. I'd have enjoyed that, as I was always and still am a huge Dibiase mark.
For what it was though, the Higher Power as Vince still ranks as my number 1 moment in wrestling ever. It sums up the Attitude era for me and epitomises what made me want to watch wrestling at that poing; the fact that it was a huge soap opera with great and over the top characters and literally anything and everything could and did happen.
Unlike now, where certain characters are so stuck in a rut they make me turn the channel.
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Post by flacofromca on Jan 1, 2011 16:18:24 GMT -5
Wasn't Russo lobbying for himself, too?
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Post by CM Dazz on Jan 1, 2011 16:39:36 GMT -5
Wasn't Russo lobbying for himself, too? Don't know for sure, but it's definitely plausible.
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Post by bob on Jan 1, 2011 16:43:37 GMT -5
honestly I don't remember who I was hoping or thinking it would be, although I was extremely disappointed and confused with Vince being revealed as the power
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Post by i.Sarita.com on Jan 1, 2011 16:53:39 GMT -5
Wasn't Jake pretty much coked out of his skull by that point?
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Post by Citizen Zero on Jan 1, 2011 16:58:09 GMT -5
Wasn't Jake pretty much coked out of his skull by that point? Pretty much. Also wasn't it originally intended for Mick Foley to be under the hood?
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Jan 1, 2011 17:07:13 GMT -5
Wasn't Jake pretty much coked out of his skull by that point? Pretty much. Also wasn't it originally intended for Mick Foley to be under the hood? Yes, but Mick didn't want to turn heel without build up, so he declined.
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Post by Citizen Zero on Jan 1, 2011 17:10:29 GMT -5
Pretty much. Also wasn't it originally intended for Mick Foley to be under the hood? Yes, but Mick didn't want to turn heel without build up, so he declined. Would've been interesting to see. Though admittedly Jake 'Too Evil For Undertaker' Roberts would've been a perfect fit.
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Post by celticjobber on Jan 1, 2011 17:29:33 GMT -5
There was a set of spoilers for that Raw, which claimed Jake Roberts was revealed the Higher Power. Almost every major wrestling website put them up, then retracted a day later.
At my high school, I remember alot of people oddly thought it would be Brian Pillman and he wasn't really dead.
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Post by héad.casé on Jan 1, 2011 17:53:29 GMT -5
There was a set of spoilers for that Raw, which claimed Jake Roberts was revealed the Higher Power. Almost every major wrestling website put them up, then retracted a day later. At my high school, I remember alot of people oddly thought it would be Brian Pillman and he wasn't really dead. Hell I remember the day after Badd Blood, a friend of mine thought the debuting Kane was Brian Pillman and they killed Brian off. Ever since i've thought he's nuts. Then again I thought Kane was Adam Bomb for a while since they had a similar head tilt towards the camera. Anyway, back on topic, I remember thinking the Higher Power was gonna be Shane because of how he and Taker would look at each other every time it was mentioned, and was surprised to see it wasn't, but let down to see it was Vince
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jan 1, 2011 19:51:34 GMT -5
I think the thing with Vince was they didn't have anyone at the time to have it really be a surprise. Sad thing is Vince revealing himself came off as more comical than creepy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2011 19:54:14 GMT -5
Didn't Bischoff spoil that it was Vince on Nitro that night as well?
Jake would have been better, but I guess Vince was okay for the comedy factor.
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Post by CM Dazz on Jan 1, 2011 20:02:15 GMT -5
Wasn't Jake pretty much coked out of his skull by that point? Yea, I'm pretty sure that not only was that the case, but the reason Roberts didn't get the role. I think I remember reading that Vince was afraid to put Roberts in such a huge roll becuase of his drug problems. He didn't want to risk Roberts showing up to TV all f***ed up, or just no show at all. it was basically the storyline that the whole company was revolving around, and Vince just didn't trust him to be sober. makes sense actually, as Roberts has explicitly said not to trust him Didn't Bischoff spoil that it was Vince on Nitro that night as well? Jake would have been better, but I guess Vince was okay for the comedy factor. Bischoff did at the beginning of Nitro. he crapped all over it saying that the Higher Power would be revealed to be a man with the initials V.M. since Raw was already taped. he did the same thing with foley's first title win, and we all know how that worked out.
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Post by Back to being Cenanuff on Jan 1, 2011 20:21:59 GMT -5
He would have been perfect. You got 21? He's got 22. Wanna play black jack? He's got some of those too. Wanna play aces and eights? Maybe he's got too many of those too.
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Post by chunkylover53 on Jan 1, 2011 22:31:15 GMT -5
Wasn't Jake pretty much coked out of his skull by that point? Yea, I'm pretty sure that not only was that the case, but the reason Roberts didn't get the role. I think I remember reading that Vince was afraid to put Roberts in such a huge roll becuase of his drug problems. He didn't want to risk Roberts showing up to TV all f***ed up, or just no show at all. it was basically the storyline that the whole company was revolving around, and Vince just didn't trust him to be sober. makes sense actually, as Roberts has explicitly said not to trust him Didn't Bischoff spoil that it was Vince on Nitro that night as well? Jake would have been better, but I guess Vince was okay for the comedy factor. Bischoff did at the beginning of Nitro. he crapped all over it saying that the Higher Power would be revealed to be a man with the initials V.M. since Raw was already taped. he did the same thing with foley's first title win, and we all know how that worked out. Raw was broadcast live that night. BTW, Jed does an awesome rewriting the book of Jake Roberts being the higher power. Check it out for yourself.... www.wrestlecrap.com/rwtbministry.html
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Jan 1, 2011 23:12:49 GMT -5
I actually thought it would be Jake...
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Jan 2, 2011 6:35:32 GMT -5
Wasn't Jake pretty much coked out of his skull by that point? Yea, I'm pretty sure that not only was that the case, but the reason Roberts didn't get the role. I think I remember reading that Vince was afraid to put Roberts in such a huge roll becuase of his drug problems. He didn't want to risk Roberts showing up to TV all f***ed up, or just no show at all. it was basically the storyline that the whole company was revolving around, and Vince just didn't trust him to be sober. makes sense actually, as Roberts has explicitly said not to trust him Didn't Bischoff spoil that it was Vince on Nitro that night as well? Jake would have been better, but I guess Vince was okay for the comedy factor. Bischoff did at the beginning of Nitro. he crapped all over it saying that the Higher Power would be revealed to be a man with the initials V.M. since Raw was already taped. he did the same thing with foley's first title win, and we all know how that worked out. Raw was actually live that nigjht, but it didn't take Eric much to realize that there was only one possibiity.
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Post by King Devitt on Jan 2, 2011 6:50:30 GMT -5
I remember reading at the time that Ted Dibiase was a strong rumour, probably because of the connection between him and Austin and the fact he had had a Corperation before. I'd have enjoyed that, as I was always and still am a huge Dibiase mark. For what it was though, the Higher Power as Vince still ranks as my number 1 moment in wrestling ever. It sums up the Attitude era for me and epitomises what made me want to watch wrestling at that poing; the fact that it was a huge soap opera with great and over the top characters and literally anything and everything could and did happen. Unlike now, where certain characters are so stuck in a rut they make me turn the channel. i gotta disagree, i think Vince being the higher power was one of the lower points of the era, and it not only killed any momentum that the angle had right then and there by ceasing to go anywhere but back to the same feud that was starting to get old, but it also made UT and the Ministry (who were being made out to be badass) look kinda lame. it ended up being the Vince McMahon show. and while i love evil Vince, this made me roll my eyes and i lost interest. but that's just me. Jake would have been phenomenal. for the promo's alone. i would rather have seen the hood come off and Jake to look at the camera and grin and say "i told you to never trust a snake...." then again Jake is my favorite character of all time, so i would have pee'd my pants.
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Post by chunkylover53 on Jan 2, 2011 10:29:37 GMT -5
Ooooh, another good character to be the Higher Power would be Brother Love. Go from preaching love to a preaching hate.
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