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Post by Lance Uppercut on Jan 1, 2011 16:35:04 GMT -5
The Miz Reveals that JBL Wasn't Always Mean to Him Date Added: December 30, 2010 Story By: Steve Carrier WWE Champion The Miz told Baltimore Sun Ring Posts blogger Kevin Eck that JBL wasn't always tough on him backstage. "It’s funny with JBL," Miz said. "In front of all the boys back in the day he would always be making fun of me or saying [imitating JBL’s voice], 'Miz, I look forward to your amazing work. You’re a gift from God.' But whenever no one was around, he would come up to me and say, 'You’re doing a good job.'
"He’d always give me a little pat on the back. Most people think he was really, really bad to me and this kind of stuff – and, granted, there were times – but there were also times when he sat me down and said, 'Listen, you’re doing a good job. This is what you’re doing wrong. This is what you have to do to get to the next level.' So he has helped me as well."
Miz was also asked about his relationship with Daniel Bryan during NXT season one. "We were very cordial with each other, but you could tell on the inside that we were both trying to one-up one another because I thought I was better than him and he thought he was better than me," said Miz. "I thought I was better than him just because I’ve been in WWE for four years now and how long had he been in WWE? Zero time. He basically performed in front of 25 people at a bingo hall and was called the best in the world.
"I mean, please, I don’t care if some dirt sheet is writing about how great you are and that you were able to perform in front of 100 people. Congratulations. I’m performing in front of 16,000 to 20,000 a night and millions across the globe. As far as working with him, though, he’s a very, very cool guy and very, very talented. He is one of the true up-and-comers in the WWE and has proven himself and keeps proving himself and improving. And he really, really wants it, which is all you can really ask for."
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Interesting that he respected DBD but surprisingly believes in the WWE>the rest of the world philosphy.
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Post by CM Dazz on Jan 1, 2011 16:38:46 GMT -5
I thought I remember hearing something about a Tweet or something like that from JBL when Miz won the title saying he was proud of him or something. Did this happen or am I dreaming?
Also, why did I use the word "something" so many times in that sentence?
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Post by DSR on Jan 1, 2011 16:53:51 GMT -5
Yeah, shortly after Miz's "JBL/No respect backstage" promo, someone posted a thing from JBL where he said he was proud Miz used him to garner heat for himself in a promo, and that he was rooting for Miz to succeed.
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Post by Johnny Truant on Jan 1, 2011 16:57:21 GMT -5
I think that this interview is a mix of shoot while keeping a little bit of kayfabe, which is why he didn't put DBD over as much as he might have.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jan 1, 2011 18:39:08 GMT -5
I think that this interview is a mix of shoot while keeping a little bit of kayfabe, which is why he didn't put DBD over as much as he might have. He put Bryan himself over very strongly. The only negative thing he had to say is that he hadn't proven himself in the WWE when he first came in. Miz says Bryan HAS proven that he has what it takes to be a star there now. That opinion is not completely wrong and company line, by the way. For every Dudley Boys, there's a Public Enemy.
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Post by Psychoblue on Jan 1, 2011 18:52:30 GMT -5
"And he really, really wants it, which is all you can really ask for." This line, right here, is why I have no sympathy for Kaval quitting. Bryan won "Most Outstanding Wrestler" not just because of his in-ring prowess or how many five-star matches he could do: it's because he had the drive and ambition to succeed so that he could one day work his dream of competing and one day main eventing at Wrestlemania: a dream that could very well come true. It's what separates the Danielsons from the Low-Kis who gave up after just a few months. You can have all the talent in the world, but it's only as good as the drive that goes alongside of it. Bryan voluntarily went through FCW and NXT and a "shoot" firing (I put that in quotations because I still think that he was never really gone) until six months after all of the losing, he got his time to shine. It's why Miz is WWE Champion, Bryan is US Champion, and Kaval is back on the Indies: the winners really, really wanted it and were willing to endure the obstacles put in their path.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 1, 2011 18:55:23 GMT -5
"And he really, really wants it, which is all you can really ask for." This line, right here, is why I have no sympathy for Kaval quitting. Bryan won "Most Outstanding Wrestler" not just because of his in-ring prowess or how many five-star matches he could do: it's because he had the drive and ambition to succeed so that he could one day work his dream of competing and one day main eventing at Wrestlemania: a dream that could very well come true. It's what separates the Danielsons from the Low-Kis who gave up after just a few months. You can have all the talent in the world, but it's only as good as the drive that goes alongside of it. Bryan voluntarily went through FCW and NXT and a "shoot" firing (I put that in quotations because I still think that he was never really gone) until six months after all of the losing, he got his time to shine. It's why Miz is WWE Champion, Bryan is US Champion, and Kaval is back on the Indies: the winners really, really wanted it and were willing to endure the obstacles put in their path. Winners never quit,quitters never win. Then why Ryder is not US Champion yet and Hawkins isnt IC Champion?
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Post by Psychoblue on Jan 1, 2011 18:58:53 GMT -5
This line, right here, is why I have no sympathy for Kaval quitting. Bryan won "Most Outstanding Wrestler" not just because of his in-ring prowess or how many five-star matches he could do: it's because he had the drive and ambition to succeed so that he could one day work his dream of competing and one day main eventing at Wrestlemania: a dream that could very well come true. It's what separates the Danielsons from the Low-Kis who gave up after just a few months. You can have all the talent in the world, but it's only as good as the drive that goes alongside of it. Bryan voluntarily went through FCW and NXT and a "shoot" firing (I put that in quotations because I still think that he was never really gone) until six months after all of the losing, he got his time to shine. It's why Miz is WWE Champion, Bryan is US Champion, and Kaval is back on the Indies: the winners really, really wanted it and were willing to endure the obstacles put in their path. Winners never quit,quitters never win. Then why Ryder is not US Champion yet and Hawkins isnt IC Champion? Hey, who really expected either of them to have lasted this long back when they were the Major Brothers? You never know when opportunity knocks, but quitting throws away that opportunity forever.
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Post by Citizen Zero on Jan 1, 2011 19:22:26 GMT -5
"And he really, really wants it, which is all you can really ask for." This line, right here, is why I have no sympathy for Kaval quitting. Bryan won "Most Outstanding Wrestler" not just because of his in-ring prowess or how many five-star matches he could do: it's because he had the drive and ambition to succeed so that he could one day work his dream of competing and one day main eventing at Wrestlemania: a dream that could very well come true. It's what separates the Danielsons from the Low-Kis who gave up after just a few months. You can have all the talent in the world, but it's only as good as the drive that goes alongside of it. Bryan voluntarily went through FCW and NXT and a "shoot" firing (I put that in quotations because I still think that he was never really gone) until six months after all of the losing, he got his time to shine. It's why Miz is WWE Champion, Bryan is US Champion, and Kaval is back on the Indies: the winners really, really wanted it and were willing to endure the obstacles put in their path. Except for every Daniel Bryan or Miz (and quite frankly the Miz is a completely different story from Kaval or Bryan), the WWE has a long, long history of misusing and then discarding talented wrestlers for usually incredibly petty, or sometimes nonexistent reasons. Quite frankly, I don't blame Kaval for getting the hell out of there before he became another WWE mismanagement casualty.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jan 1, 2011 19:25:27 GMT -5
Let us look at the Kaval situation from a different angle. I compare him in a small way to Mick Foley. Mick Foley quit in WCW because he realized that by not being one of Flair's or Hogan's favorites he was going to be jobbed out, have his value on the indies dropped significantly, and his ability to support his family hideously reduced. Obviously, Foley never gave up on his career. He just saw the writing on the wall and did what he had to do in order to properly further his career. Kaval did not see the writing on the wall; he was flat out told what was in store for him. Miz was not given that forecast and therefore had something to work for in the WWE. DBD knew damned good and well that they actually wanted to make proper use of him since they had been courting him for years. Their situations are not the same as Kaval's. Hell, even Foley's situation was not as clear-cut as Kaval's.
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Post by Psychoblue on Jan 1, 2011 19:38:14 GMT -5
Let us look at the Kaval situation from a different angle. I compare him in a small way to Mick Foley. Mick Foley quit in WCW because he realized that by not being one of Flair's or Hogan's favorites he was going to be jobbed out, have his value on the indies dropped significantly, and his ability to support his family hideously reduced. Obviously, Foley never gave up on his career. He just saw the writing on the wall and did what he had to do in order to properly further his career. Kaval did not see the writing on the wall; he was flat out told what was in store for him. Miz was not given that forecast and therefore had something to work for in the WWE. DBD knew damned good and well that they actually wanted to make proper use of him since they had been courting him for years. Their situations are not the same as Kaval's. Hell, even Foley's situation was not as clear-cut as Kaval's. Creative said they had no "immediate" plans. Were there any "immediate" plans for Dreamer from 2007-2009 before he won the ECW title again and instantly restored credibility to his name? Were there any "immediate" plans for Dolph Ziggler after he was jobbed out first to Rey and then to Morrison before winning the IC title a year later, or even when he was languishing in developmental after the death of the Spirit Squad as he watched the rest of his Squad members leave one by one? Were there any "immediate" plans for Jack Swagger after losing the MVP feud in Summer 2009 before he won MitB? What do all of these guys have in common with Kaval? They all maintained significant television time on their respective brands. What separates them from Kaval? They endured months, sometimes years, of bad booking until opportunity finally came knocking. Foley had been in WCW for a few years before he decided it was time to go: Kaval was on the main roster for all of three or four months. He didn't see his chances improving despite how he was very much a newcomer into the fold and gave up. Going back on topic, I know it'll probably never be revealed as long as Miz is employed with WWE but I wonder what his opinion was of Chris Benoit while he was still alive. The bread crumbs story Miz was talking about was in reference to Benoit, so I wonder if Benoit had a similar opinion of Miz that JBL had or he took exception to Miz.
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Post by Kick Your Face on Jan 1, 2011 19:42:15 GMT -5
I don't like how they completely ignore the fact that he wrestled at the Tokyo Dome for New Japan and at Budokan Hall for NOAH. The only person that mentioned it was Josh Matthews.
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Post by CM Dazz on Jan 1, 2011 19:43:20 GMT -5
Yeah, shortly after Miz's "JBL/No respect backstage" promo, someone posted a thing from JBL where he said he was proud Miz used him to garner heat for himself in a promo, and that he was rooting for Miz to succeed. OK, thanks for clearing that up. Not exactly what I thought, and in a way makes JBL look a little dickish. it's almost as he is saying that even though he's retired, JBL is still over, and Miz is over because of what JBL did to him. I could be completely off base there too though.
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Post by BigJerichool222 on Jan 1, 2011 20:54:19 GMT -5
He's more of a finger
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Post by crimsonwolf on Jan 1, 2011 21:12:33 GMT -5
Yeah, shortly after Miz's "JBL/No respect backstage" promo, someone posted a thing from JBL where he said he was proud Miz used him to garner heat for himself in a promo, and that he was rooting for Miz to succeed. OK, thanks for clearing that up. Not exactly what I thought, and in a way makes JBL look a little dickish. it's almost as he is saying that even though he's retired, JBL is still over, and Miz is over because of what JBL did to him. I could be completely off base there too though. From my view, it seemed more like JBL putting it out there that there wasn't any real hard feelings between the two, and that he was legitimately happy that he could be part of building up The Miz's character. It's just like how JR posted a response blog after Old School Night where he stated there were no hard feelings between him and Cole, and that he was happy that he could contribute to Cole's heel character.
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Post by Threadkiller [Classic] on Jan 1, 2011 21:41:15 GMT -5
I love the irony of The Miz telling us that what's said in "dirt sheets" don't matter. ;D
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 1, 2011 22:43:43 GMT -5
The DBD stuff has to be largely kayfabed yes? Interesting read regardless.
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Post by DSR on Jan 1, 2011 22:53:35 GMT -5
OK, thanks for clearing that up. Not exactly what I thought, and in a way makes JBL look a little dickish. it's almost as he is saying that even though he's retired, JBL is still over, and Miz is over because of what JBL did to him. I could be completely off base there too though. From my view, it seemed more like JBL putting it out there that there wasn't any real hard feelings between the two, and that he was legitimately happy that he could be part of building up The Miz's character. Yeah, this was closer to the tone of what JBL actually said. I was paraphrasing, and I guess I missed that kind of detail.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 1, 2011 22:54:42 GMT -5
The DBD stuff has to be largely kayfabed yes? Interesting read regardless. That's what I was thinking, too. Otherwise, Miz is quite the ignorant prick. For one, Danielson was never in WWE before 2010 because he chose not to be. Second of all, you can be the best at something without doing it in front of a large television audience. He wasn't called "best in the world" because of how much exposure he got. He got the moniker by putting on the best quality matches in wrestling, WWE or otherwise. I really, really hope Miz is kayfabing here. I hate his character on TV, but I've never had a personal issue with the guy. If he truly feels this way, I also dislike him as a person.
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Post by Red Impact on Jan 1, 2011 23:20:55 GMT -5
I don't really have any problem with what Miz said about Bryan, and don't think it was in kayfabe because nothing else was kayfabe.
If you remember, Miz was criticized a lot due to the pairing in season 1 of NXT. That's enough to make anyone defensive about what they do. And yeah, you can be the best even if you're not on the biggest stage, but there's still a difference in what they did. You have to admit that WWE performers are, at the very least, under a lot more pressure to perform on a more consistent basis than indy guys.
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