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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Dec 30, 2010 23:15:53 GMT -5
I think to some degree Sting would've been buried simply because of his status as a WCW legend. When you look at how poorly they used DDP, Booker T, Kidman, Raven, Steiner, and so forth you can't help but see the pattern there. Sting might've received better treatment as far as his character is concerned. However, look at how they booked Goldberg and that's how Sting would be booked. Instead of making him a silent badass they would have him participate in lame skits, lose to lesser opponents, and so forth. I do believe Sting would've been buried absolutely. If Rob Van Dam, Booker T, DDP, Kidman, Raven, and Lance Storm could be buried then what would make Sting exempt? None of those guys were ever close to the level that Sting was. Yea, Booker T may have won a bunch of championships, but Sting was THE face of the company. Ask someone about WCW and the first two names they will say are Sting and Flair. There is NO comparison between Sting and the guys you mentioned. The reason why I mentioned guys like Kidman, DDP, Raven, and Lance Storm is because they eventually became the faces of WCW too. But you're right when you think of WCW and the frontrunners Sting and Flair are always mentioned. But Sting definitely was the face of the company and there was no one bigger than Sting when he donned The Crow make-up.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Dec 30, 2010 23:21:20 GMT -5
I think Sting would have been treated similar to how Goldberg and Hogan were treated. Not booked as invincible, but not jobbed out either. He would've gotten huge reactions from the audience and probably been booked in some dream matches vs. Rock, Austin, and Undertaker.
Then again there's really no telling. This is the same company that took the biggest angle in wrestling history and turned it into something very very mediocre.
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Post by corndog on Dec 30, 2010 23:35:34 GMT -5
I would have loved to see Sting be the leader of the invasion on the WCW side, just because it would have sense. But yeah, how they would have booked him might have been bad, although I would hope they wouldn't destroy his character like DDP. I don't think it's difficult, and even if he talked, in TNA he has shown that he can pull off being a heel.
I am not sure if it would have been Booker T/DDP levels of burial, but he wouldn't have been destroying everyone either. I have a feeling he would have a run similar to Michaels after his retirement. Maybe one last world heavyweight title run, but guys like Austin, the Rock, and Angle would almost always beat him and he would help elevate younger guys.
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Post by randomranter on Dec 30, 2010 23:44:08 GMT -5
The reason why I mentioned guys like Kidman, DDP, Raven, and Lance Storm is because they eventually became the faces of WCW too. Except for DDP, not a single one of the guys you mentioned achieved 10% of the status that Sting ever did. Even DDP at his peak was still far behind Sting.
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Post by bob on Dec 30, 2010 23:46:30 GMT -5
he would've been buried just like everyone else who came over from WCW was
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Dec 31, 2010 0:11:50 GMT -5
Creative would have "had nothing for him" probably, lol.
I would like to think he would've been treated as a major attraction. I mean when WCW closed down, it wasn't like Sting was just this old name from the past. He was still a relevant wrestler and one of the key people associated with WCW. No disrespect to Booker, but he wasn't Sting. Most of the attitude era fans stopped watching WCW, and when they stopped, Booker was still the Harlem Heat mid-card guy. Not that he didn't earn the main event slot, it just wasn't the same as a guy already regarded to as a Legend, like Sting. Even though WWF was going to get the best of WCW/ECW no matter what, he probably could have had a strong role in the company during the Invasion, at least. After that, I mean, the potential is limitless, but I understand his reservations about what they'd do to his character.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Dec 31, 2010 0:30:15 GMT -5
The reason why I mentioned guys like Kidman, DDP, Raven, and Lance Storm is because they eventually became the faces of WCW too. Except for DDP, not a single one of the guys you mentioned achieved 10% of the status that Sting ever did. Even DDP at his peak was still far behind Sting. Not even Goldberg? He rose up the ranks pretty quick and was up there with Sting in terms of popularity.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 31, 2010 0:37:31 GMT -5
I don't think he'd have been treated badly at all. I think he woulda come in with a lotta fanfare ala Flair in the nineties; as he's one of the few guys who were already 'legendary'.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Dec 31, 2010 0:42:34 GMT -5
Yeah, but they kind of made Flair into a joke as well. Having him proclaim Triple H as the greatest wrestler ever and making him a lackey hurt his credibility in my opinion.
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Post by mikey_editor on Dec 31, 2010 0:47:57 GMT -5
He would have been honored and inducted into the Fed Hall
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Post by Greer on Dec 31, 2010 0:49:30 GMT -5
In my opinion Sting would have never been a top guy. He would have always been under Rock, Austin, HHH and Taker.
Always.
I wouldn't trust WWE creative nor would I trust Vince McMahon, who would do ANYTHING to destroy the name of WCW.
Yes there have been WCW DVD's and other things they have done, but overall he loved to show WCW as inferior.
While I don't think he would be buried, he would be jobbing out way more often than not.
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Post by vinnysimmo on Dec 31, 2010 6:15:41 GMT -5
In my opinion, Sting is one of the greatest wrestlers ever. I donät beleve he would have been treated as such inthe WWE. Him never ending upthere was for the best, I reckon.
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Post by Citizen Zero on Dec 31, 2010 6:51:42 GMT -5
Yeah, but they kind of made Flair into a joke as well. Having him proclaim Triple H as the greatest wrestler ever and making him a lackey hurt his credibility in my opinion. That was less Flair being buried than Flair being used to put over younger talent. He was still in the very dominant Evolution stable and has wins over guys like Triple H and Mick Foley.
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Post by golding on Dec 31, 2010 10:14:30 GMT -5
All you have to do is see how many people who became famous somewhere outside the WWE get pushed to the top. Even now it's awfully rare. Sting had the foresight to see how his fellow WCW wrestlers were being treated, had the dignity to not want that for himself, and had the humility to see that he wasn't going to be an exception. I'm glad Sting has never wrestled in a WWE ring.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 31, 2010 10:29:55 GMT -5
Having Sting in WWE during the InVasion would had gave the WCW guys a lot more cred. The only big names they had were DDP and Booker T. The rest were sitting out on the rest of their AOL/Time-Warner contract. WWE would had pushed him. Maybe not as a top main eventer but as a special attraction. Remember Sting was considered old back in 2001. WWE wouldn't had invested much time in him with that considered. His biggest match would had probably been against the Undertaker at Wrestlemania.
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Post by poi zen rana on Dec 31, 2010 10:46:01 GMT -5
Even if the WWE decided to push him, I don't think they would have made him as strong a character as he was used to portraying. I'm not saying this is a good or a bad thing, just what I believe. I get the impression that when the WWE brings in someone who was famous elsewhere, they usually book that person in a way to make their other stars bigger. If Sting was brought in I think they would look at him and say "how can we use his name to make our stars bigger?" rather than "how can we make him an even bigger name and make money off of him?". Again, I'm not saying that thinking is bad. It makes sense in a way, why not use a famous outsider to elevate your loyal employees rather than throw everything behind a new guy who hasn't proven themselves loyal. Either way, if Sting wanted to keep his character as strong as it was and in the direction he liked, skipping the WWE was smart.
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Post by CM Dazz on Dec 31, 2010 12:56:14 GMT -5
One other thing I think we are forgetting here. Vince, despite all his shortcomings, has a tremendous amount of respect for people that are loyal, and stick to their word. Sting never left WCW, was never part of any "jumping ship" or "screwovers". He was loyal to the company that made him a star and I think that would have been a big reason that Sting would have been fine in WWE.
Even till this day we hear stories about Vince and loyalty. He made sure Danielson kept his word and honored his indie commitments after signing with WWE. There is also the story of (forgot indie wrestlers name) canceling his remaining indie dates and Vince let him go because he wasn't a man of his word.
Sting was a true professional, never screwed a company over by jumping ship, and honestly seems like a good guy. He would have been a star in WWE.
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Post by poi zen rana on Dec 31, 2010 13:13:18 GMT -5
One other thing I think we are forgetting here. Vince, despite all his shortcomings, has a tremendous amount of respect for people that are loyal, and stick to their word. Sting never left WCW, was never part of any "jumping ship" or "screwovers". He was loyal to the company that made him a star and I think that would have been a big reason that Sting would have been fine in WWE. Even till this day we hear stories about Vince and loyalty. He made sure Danielson kept his word and honored his indie commitments after signing with WWE. There is also the story of (forgot indie wrestlers name) canceling his remaining indie dates and Vince let him go because he wasn't a man of his word. Sting was a true professional, never screwed a company over by jumping ship, and honestly seems like a good guy. He would have been a star in WWE. I think he would have been a star as well, but I think it would have taken some time. The reason I think that is because, as you mentioned, Vince loves loyalty. Before booking Sting as strong as Sting was normally booked, I think Vince would have made him build up some other wrestlers. I believe Vince would do this to test if Sting would be loyal, and because Vince would want to be loyal to those who were loyal to him first. So I think he would use Sting to establish some of his workers and then give him the Sting type of push.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2010 13:19:17 GMT -5
I think he might not have been buried, but he wouldn't be anywhere near the star he is in TNA.
WWE probably would have used him for a few memorable fueds and then let him go - but without completely destroying his rep.
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Post by Greer on Dec 31, 2010 14:01:13 GMT -5
One other thing I think we are forgetting here. Vince, despite all his shortcomings, has a tremendous amount of respect for people that are loyal, and stick to their word. Sting never left WCW, was never part of any "jumping ship" or "screwovers". He was loyal to the company that made him a star and I think that would have been a big reason that Sting would have been fine in WWE. Even till this day we hear stories about Vince and loyalty. He made sure Danielson kept his word and honored his indie commitments after signing with WWE. There is also the story of (forgot indie wrestlers name) canceling his remaining indie dates and Vince let him go because he wasn't a man of his word. Sting was a true professional, never screwed a company over by jumping ship, and honestly seems like a good guy. He would have been a star in WWE. Ok while I'm sure those stories are true...it's still Vince McMahon. He hated WCW. He's not letting a WCW star go over his guys and take a top spot. He would always be seen as inferior to Rock, Austin, HHH, Taker, Angle. Vince would be more loyal to "his guys" first over any WCW talent.
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