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Post by Display Name on Jun 18, 2011 16:49:29 GMT -5
Not quite as bad as the people in wheelchairs who sued Chipotle because they couldn't see their food being made and thus lost out on the Chipotle Experience. (They won) You know,I've always been a positive guy and I've always rolled my eyes when people say "I hate people",but you know what..that Chipotle story kinda makes me hate people.I mean,c'mon.
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Post by willywonka666 on Jun 19, 2011 7:44:03 GMT -5
Not quite as bad as the people in wheelchairs who sued Chipotle because they couldn't see their food being made and thus lost out on the Chipotle Experience. (They won) Please elaborate. This is insane!
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Post by Red Impact on Jun 19, 2011 8:00:11 GMT -5
Not quite as bad as the people in wheelchairs who sued Chipotle because they couldn't see their food being made and thus lost out on the Chipotle Experience. (They won) Please elaborate. This is insane! Apparently, a year or so back, courts in California ruled that Chipotle had violated the Americans with Disabilities act by having walls too high for customers in wheelchairs to see their food being made. The amount the guy was suing for was relatively low ($8,000, and he apparently only got a quarter of his $50,000+ in legal fees awarded).
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Jun 19, 2011 8:09:44 GMT -5
Please elaborate. This is insane! Apparently, a year or so back, courts in California ruled that Chipotle had violated the Americans with Disabilities act by having walls too high for customers in wheelchairs to see their food being made. The amount the guy was suing for was relatively low ($8,000, and he apparently only got a quarter of his $50,000+ in legal fees awarded). I instantly figured out why they won when I saw what state it was in. lol
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Post by Red Impact on Jun 19, 2011 9:44:42 GMT -5
Apparently, a year or so back, courts in California ruled that Chipotle had violated the Americans with Disabilities act by having walls too high for customers in wheelchairs to see their food being made. The amount the guy was suing for was relatively low ($8,000, and he apparently only got a quarter of his $50,000+ in legal fees awarded). I instantly figured out why they won when I saw what state it was in. lol Yeah, I pretty much make the assumption of what state it's in anytime I hear of a lawsuit like that being won.
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Post by Big L on Jun 19, 2011 10:20:40 GMT -5
Yeah no reason to sue but captions should be on it though
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Post by Tarik Dee on Jun 19, 2011 10:25:26 GMT -5
For some reason, Chipotle Experience sounds just too funny.
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Post by The Booty Disciple on Jun 19, 2011 10:33:50 GMT -5
I'd have to do some research, but I was under the impression that closed captioning was to be provided by the creator/producer of the content, not the party in charge of distribution? Therefore, it would only apply if the captions were included in the media and Netflix did not provide an option for that media to be delivered.
It'll be interesting to see how this works, given that I read several weeks ago that Netflix does not currently fall under the umbrella of TV programming as it's effectively a data delivery service rather than a television station using radio waves. If this lawsuit is allowed, that will definitely change the landscape of the definition of a "television" station.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 19, 2011 11:30:07 GMT -5
YEAH THOSE DEAF ASSHOLES!
If Netflix is just actively ignoring the deaf community in this regard, then they do deserve a kick in the pants. More facts are needed. Why everyone is so quick to attack people with a legitimate grievance I don't understand.
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Post by Munkie91087 on Jun 19, 2011 11:37:19 GMT -5
I think these people are doing a great thing. Let's give them the respect they deserve. I say to these brave deaf warriors, hear, hear!!!!!!
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 19, 2011 11:37:50 GMT -5
I think these people are doing a great thing. Let's give them the respect they deserve. I say to these brave deaf warriors, hear, hear!!!!!! iseewhatyoudidthere.jpeg
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Post by YellowJacketY2J on Jun 19, 2011 11:47:07 GMT -5
YEAH THOSE DEAF ASSHOLES! If Netflix is just actively ignoring the deaf community in this regard, then they do deserve a kick in the pants. More facts are needed. Why everyone is so quick to attack people with a legitimate grievance I don't understand. Quite a few videos on Netflix have closed captioning.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jun 19, 2011 11:47:09 GMT -5
Everything discriminates against something else. Next you'll hear blind advocacy groups suing since there's no braille version of Netflix. Hell, I have friends who would've loved to play Guitar Hero, but cant' because they have a disease that won't allow them to hold the controller. And forget about Kinect, they're in wheelchairs... how are they expected to jump? But, rather than sue, they just realize it's not for them. Same for while I'd love to make the money of a star NFL player... I'm five foot nothing with an aversion to muscle building. Should I sue the NFL for not allowing me to play on their team because they are discriminating against a certain body type? How about suing a scientific research facility for not hiring me just because I suck at science and don't have a degree? Not everything is available for everyone... and in this case, Netflix IS offering subtitles and captions as much as they can. It isn't perfected yet, and it takes time to make it available for everything. People's entitled attitudes and "I want it now or it isn't good enough" combined with "I got it now and it's still not good enough" attitudes just piss me the f*** off. Pretty much this, but people have been conditioned to feel entitled since about the 1960s. It'd take a lot to reverse that. Also, it wouldn't surprise me if this is being encouraged by ISPs, who'd do anything to take Netflix down a peg, since Netflix's streaming service takes up so much bandwidth.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 19, 2011 12:04:34 GMT -5
YEAH THOSE DEAF ASSHOLES! If Netflix is just actively ignoring the deaf community in this regard, then they do deserve a kick in the pants. More facts are needed. Why everyone is so quick to attack people with a legitimate grievance I don't understand. Quite a few videos on Netflix have closed captioning. I've read anywhere from 3% to 30%. They are shooting for 80% by the end of the year though apparently, and if that is true I don't see this lawsuit going very far. I think its all going to come down to the actual facts of Netflix's progress in adding CC. I also wouldn't expect there to by much in the way of damages unless they've falsely advertised that the extent of the CC coverage or have actively ignored implementing it, but more likely an injunction telling them to hurry that s*** up. Interestingly Time Warner was also sued for the same reason within a few days over the lack of CC on CNN.com's videos. Also remember that this isn't just a lawsuit brought on the basis of being frustrated. Its the law. "Section 255 and Section 251(a)(2) of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended by the Telecommunications Act of 1996, require manufacturers of telecommunications equipment and providers of telecommunications services to ensure that such equipment and services are accessible to and usable by persons with disabilities, if readily achievable. These amendments ensure that people with disabilities will have access to a broad range of products and services such as telephones, cell phones, pagers, call-waiting, and operator services, that were often inaccessible to many users with disabilities." I think they key phrase here is in bold.
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