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Post by Square on Feb 5, 2011 19:29:12 GMT -5
Why? Reks is a menacing good wrestler that only needs a character and push to get him into a top spot ala Sheamus. Have Hunter come back for 6 months and give him the strap and have Reks go on a destructive path against jobbers as this loner character. Come Summerslam have HHH Vs Del Rio, Hunter wins and Reks just comes out of the back and DESTROYS him. Beats the ever loving crap out of him and does vicious non PG stuff to him and have Long come out the next week on Smackdown stating that Hunter has had to retire due to the injures caused by Tyler Reks. I'm actually going to agree and disagree on Tyler Reks here.....on the one hand, that IS probably THE best way to put over a new monster as some unstoppable killing machine. If anyone doubts that they're a guy that can "Get Things Done"...then thay're sadly mistaken......Here's the rub though... 1. You can only do it once......It's the same reason why i'm against anyone breaking "The Streak" or cleanly going over certain legends in thier debuts/first years/first "BIG FOUR" PPV.....you can only do it once. You f*** that up and give it to someone that can't "Carry" that sort of responsibility you've lost a potential draw FOREVER. You can't un-do certain booking decisions and WWE really can't afford to make booking decisions it can't un-do. I don't think Reks is a big enough of a draw to warrant that. 2. I truly believe that the Fans would turn on Reks in an INSTANT if he went over HHH. I'm not a blind HHH fan, nor someone that believes that he's evil incarnate......but depending on how they did it, I truly believe that the fans simply wouldn't believe it. For the smarks....you have a man that's Main Evented Wrestlemanias being taken out by a guy that was (Until the last month or so) regularly LEFT OFF of Superstars.....essentially slightly above FCW rookies on the "Totem Pole". 3. Now you wanna know the sad part though? You give me a "New" monster.....someone that hasn't freaked out on a plane-ride, debuted as a surfer, and then disappeared for nearly a year destroying the"King of Kings".....I think I could buy it. Basically Tyler Reks's previous record is simply too recent to take him seriously as a monster "worthy" of sidelining/retiring HHH. But having Reks just defeat everyone in his path and building a character of this loner beast over a 6 month period would build him to the point where him attacking HHH and taking him out wouldn't be that much of a strech for the fans. Randy Orton went from the rookie to Evolution in less than a year, John Cena went from the Angle invitation to headlining with Brock Lesnar in less than a year why not Reks?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2011 20:35:39 GMT -5
Can we not go with Reks on the basis he isn't very good and looks ridiculous?
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Post by cool guy on Feb 5, 2011 21:37:34 GMT -5
...I feel like you didn't read the thread beyond it's title.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Feb 5, 2011 21:59:42 GMT -5
After HHH and Taker retire, there will be very very few old school guys left. This makes me sad. After HHH, Taker, Kane, and Edge retire I will probably be done with WWE. Nothing against the younger generation but they just don't really interest me very much.
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Post by Raja Lion on Feb 5, 2011 22:03:44 GMT -5
I feel HHH has at least one more good run left in him. Id like to see him come back this year and then call it a career (in ring) next year.
I definitely get tired of the dude, but Im not ready to push him away just yet. He's very savvy for the business and having him around and getting the younger guys over is a great asset considering his already established career.
Its a lot different than HBK, who wanted to settle down. He and Steph ARE the WWE and will be for the foreseeable future. He's not going to some ranch in Texas to shoot animals and hang out with the Nuge.
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Fiddleford H. McGucket
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Feb 5, 2011 22:40:30 GMT -5
I'm actually going to agree and disagree on Tyler Reks here.....on the one hand, that IS probably THE best way to put over a new monster as some unstoppable killing machine. If anyone doubts that they're a guy that can "Get Things Done"...then thay're sadly mistaken......Here's the rub though... 1. You can only do it once......It's the same reason why i'm against anyone breaking "The Streak" or cleanly going over certain legends in thier debuts/first years/first "BIG FOUR" PPV.....you can only do it once. You f*** that up and give it to someone that can't "Carry" that sort of responsibility you've lost a potential draw FOREVER. You can't un-do certain booking decisions and WWE really can't afford to make booking decisions it can't un-do. I don't think Reks is a big enough of a draw to warrant that. 2. I truly believe that the Fans would turn on Reks in an INSTANT if he went over HHH. I'm not a blind HHH fan, nor someone that believes that he's evil incarnate......but depending on how they did it, I truly believe that the fans simply wouldn't believe it. For the smarks....you have a man that's Main Evented Wrestlemanias being taken out by a guy that was (Until the last month or so) regularly LEFT OFF of Superstars.....essentially slightly above FCW rookies on the "Totem Pole". 3. Now you wanna know the sad part though? You give me a "New" monster.....someone that hasn't freaked out on a plane-ride, debuted as a surfer, and then disappeared for nearly a year destroying the"King of Kings".....I think I could buy it. Basically Tyler Reks's previous record is simply too recent to take him seriously as a monster "worthy" of sidelining/retiring HHH. But having Reks just defeat everyone in his path and building a character of this loner beast over a 6 month period would build him to the point where him attacking HHH and taking him out wouldn't be that much of a strech for the fans. Randy Orton went from the rookie to Evolution in less than a year, John Cena went from the Angle invitation to headlining with Brock Lesnar in less than a year why not Reks? Ok....I'll grant you that, You take the time to SERIOUSLY rebuild and push Reks, and I'll probably relent on the issue. I'm saying that I think it'll take more than 6 months of crushing jobbers....things like consistant TV time on something OTHER than Superstars. Consistant TV WINS on those shows.....hell give him Umaga's old 10:40 spot and let him crush people and see if he gets over. All I'm saying is that NOW....I could believe that an unknown monster could take out Trips because there would be LESS of a need for the "6 months of Squashes", plus if you made Reks into this lone Berserker-style character.....where does he go from HHH? It's obvious that the title wouldn't be his main concern but to build him up JUST to take out trips seems like a waste of everyone's time.
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Post by sarun on Feb 5, 2011 22:46:20 GMT -5
Not Reks, there are better Superstars in the roster. He is among the last in my list (along with other jobbers or Superstars mainstays) if someone is gonna retire HHH.
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Post by Citizen Zero on Feb 5, 2011 23:22:00 GMT -5
I still don't think he'll be wrestling regularly again. Too many injuries.
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Post by saintpat on Feb 5, 2011 23:30:22 GMT -5
By the time he really retires he will have more title reigns than Ric Flair. Count on it. His ego won't have it any other way.
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Post by deancubed on Feb 5, 2011 23:47:47 GMT -5
MAY 19! i hate this word. Kane, is that you?
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Post by IMPRESSIVE knightwing1047 on Feb 6, 2011 5:26:02 GMT -5
Does he even really show much of an interest in returning to the active roster? I remember in times past when he'd get injured HHH would stop at nothing to return as quickly as possible. Maybe he's really enjoying the new part of his career behind the scenes and enjoying the new challenge. But I agree, a run or two more and hang 'em up wouldn't bother me at all. If certain people like it or not, he's one of the most influential greats in the business and deserves a retirement just like HBK got.
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Post by S-Chrome on Feb 6, 2011 5:34:49 GMT -5
Perhaps they could put him in an angle with Tyler Reks, and he ends up being the one retiring Triple H. That would be a good method of pushing another new face, or make a last match between him and a former rival, and have the former rival win, properly sending Triple H off. Something along those lines. What do you all think? Really? I'm no HHH fan in the slightest, but with prospects like Morrison, Sheamus, The Miz, Kofi Kingston, Ziggler, Cody Rhodes, and such, why would H select Tyler Reks to retire him? The best selection I believe would be Drew McIntyre, but that's me.
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Post by BHB on Feb 6, 2011 7:30:21 GMT -5
After HHH and Taker retire, there will be very very few old school guys left. This makes me sad. That's why they need to build up guys like Daniel Bryan, Sheamus, and Drew McIntyre. They're old-school trained, and have wrestled all over the place. I dread the day WWE consists of a bunch of generic FCW guys. Yes. These 3, John Morrison, Dolph, Kofi and Wade are the guys to build the company around IMO.
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Post by jrcz on Feb 6, 2011 8:18:57 GMT -5
MAY 19! i hate this word. Kane, is that you? Oh sh... you got me
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Post by Clarence "Showstealer" Mason on Feb 6, 2011 8:58:15 GMT -5
You know the logical wrestling fan in me wants to agree with the jist of what the OP is saying and all
But then the cynic in me just says "And which guy's wife is the head of creative again?"
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 6, 2011 10:44:43 GMT -5
If he does, he should be on creative. People who have been in the ring are in the best position to judge talent, and have seen firsthand what works and what does not as far as drawing money and heat. HHH himself has had to endure Wrestlecrap gimmicks before (blue blood when he debuted), and he would know that kind of thing wouldn't get over very long, and not to replicate it. He, HBK, and Taker when he retires as an active wrestler should be running the creative side due to their nearly 30 years combined wrestling experience as opposed to zero for the current writing staff. I'd be hesitant to think that having them take over booking is going to be a cure-all to the WWE's problems. ...After all, it's not like having wrestlers take over booking helped out WCW. WCW made the mistake of giving the book to active wrestlers, who all went on to book the show around themselves, or involved themselves in the ME. The suggestion here is to give the book to HHH, HBK and Taker when they've all stepped away from the ring, and (theoretically) all remain off-screen with no personal agenda.
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Post by randomranter on Feb 6, 2011 10:56:09 GMT -5
Nitpick: HHH, HBK, and Taker have a LOT more than 30 years of combined experience. Just their WWE runs alone, Taker has been around for about 21, HBK 23, and HHH is a bit over 15. That's 59 years right there. Now add their time spent in WCW and the territiories, and you're probably looking at close to 75 years of combined experience.
Personally, I'm all for a WWE run by HHH, HBK, and Taker after they all retire.
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Post by Big L on Feb 6, 2011 17:37:19 GMT -5
The fact that he's still more over than half the roster is reason enough for him to be on TV. Very true indeed
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 6, 2011 17:42:29 GMT -5
For someone to put him out to pasture, beat the Undertaker's streak, or do any sorta ending the career of a mainstay, it has to be someone that mainstream and internet fans alike buy into and are ready to see ascend to one of the top spots.
If you have just anyone do that, it'll completely backfire and even the most casual fans will shit all over it.
No one would buy Tyler Reks, at this point in his career, or someone who's had no more air time or even 'success' in that role.
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Post by strykerdarksilence on Feb 6, 2011 18:47:22 GMT -5
On the other hand, I'd quite like him to win another World Title.
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