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Post by draus on Jun 20, 2011 16:46:18 GMT -5
Am I the only one who sees being a casual fan as something that's nearly impossible to do and still know what's going on? I've been a diehard fan for over 20 years now and if I were to take some "time off" or only watch it sporadically, I would find WWE to be nearly impossible to follow. Even if any of us were to stop watching for a month and then tune into Raw end of July/early August it'd be really difficult to connect to all the angles. Most other television shows you can watch every now and then and not really miss anything that important. I guess wrestling seems to be a show that you really can't afford to at least read the results or spoilers if you want to stay invested in the program.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2011 16:49:50 GMT -5
I think my older brother is a good example of a casual fan. He knows the main eventers and upper mid-carders but knows little about most jobbers, he knows the memes involving more popular wrestlers (i.e. the Ryder Revolution), he knows which wrestlers can wrestle and which wrestlers are good speakers, and who outright sucks and has people he likes and dislikes, but he finds most storylines too trite or baffling to follow and only watches the occasional match.
In essence, I think that's a good example of a casual fan.
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Post by Altabane on Jun 20, 2011 16:53:25 GMT -5
<--- The Casual Fans, amirite?
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Post by rrm15 on Jun 20, 2011 17:02:11 GMT -5
UnGreat Khali explained it best up there. Casual fans watch RAW and MAYBE SmackDown but other than that don't care enough to go to wrestling websites and stuff like that.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Jun 20, 2011 17:27:43 GMT -5
It's weird, I used to work with this guy who was "nuts" about WWE... but only watched Raw. He thought NXT was a waste of time, didn't care about Superstars (it was for the "no-hopers") and didn't bother watching Smackdown.
That's a casual fan. You know... morons.
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Post by johnnybaseball, Mantaur Fan on Jun 20, 2011 17:36:44 GMT -5
Yeah, the whole concept doesn't make sense to me ... you don't get the full impact of a television show when you don't watch all the episodes and this television show is no different. I would think that someone who likes the show (WWE, generally) should want to see more of it. But I get pretty into things when I get interested in them, so what do I know?
And what fun is wrestling if you don't follow the angles? The matches don't have any meaning without them.
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Post by unoriginalalex on Jun 20, 2011 17:41:59 GMT -5
<--- The Casual Fans, amirite? awww!
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Post by lewis1711 on Jun 20, 2011 17:42:00 GMT -5
I think my older brother is a good example of a casual fan. He knows the main eventers and upper mid-carders but knows little about most jobbers, he knows the memes involving more popular wrestlers (i.e. the Ryder Revolution), he knows which wrestlers can wrestle and which wrestlers are good speakers, and who outright sucks and has people he likes and dislikes, but he finds most storylines too trite or baffling to follow and only watches the occasional match. In essence, I think that's a good example of a casual fan. That's gonna be me pretty soon
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Post by Bo Rida on Jun 20, 2011 17:42:09 GMT -5
Recently it would have been difficult due to the draft and large number of turns but it’s not always that hard as many feuds last for months and characters can stay the same for years, plus you get help from the constant recaps. Of course you won’t get the full story but that’s not always essential to enjoy the occasional show.
(I’m assuming that most casual viewers had a period where they watched consistently or grew up watching the occasional show, you must need some basis to start from)
That said I only really watch TNA’s PPVs and often have no idea what’s going on and that’s with vaguely following online, I have no idea how a more causal viewer would cope.
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Post by Magnum Opus on Jun 20, 2011 17:56:24 GMT -5
Y'all're aware the announcers explain the back story behind each feud like 3 times a match right?. Not to mention the video recaps.
The only difficult part of being a casual fan is that it's a two hour show that goes till 11pm EST and doesn't air re-runs. It's not something that's easy to just sorta flip to if you're bored and nothing else is on.
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Post by alabastergrim on Jun 20, 2011 17:59:50 GMT -5
It's weird, I used to work with this guy who was "nuts" about WWE... but only watched Raw. He thought NXT was a waste of time, didn't care about Superstars (it was for the "no-hopers") and didn't bother watching Smackdown. That's a casual fan. You know... morons. Sweet,, thanks for calling me a moron just because O don't watch WWE's CLEARLY unimportant shows...
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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on Jun 20, 2011 18:07:39 GMT -5
Casual fans IMO tune in and watch Raw at the least every week. They dont go online and spaff about CM Punk or dorm that Jorn Sorna the way we do, but they watch the show regularly.
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Post by rrm15 on Jun 20, 2011 18:10:31 GMT -5
Yeah, the whole concept doesn't make sense to me ... you don't get the full impact of a television show when you don't watch all the episodes and this television show is no different. I would think that someone who likes the show (WWE, generally) should want to see more of it. But I get pretty into things when I get interested in them, so what do I know? And what fun is wrestling if you don't follow the angles? The matches don't have any meaning without them. Honestly, the WWE doesn't try to make anything other than RAW seem important so I can't blame people that only watch that.
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Post by BigWill on Jun 20, 2011 18:11:09 GMT -5
Casual fans IMO tune in and watch Raw at the least every week. They dont go online and spaff about CM Punk or dorm that Jorn Sorna the way we do, but they watch the show regularly. Yeah, this is pretty much my idea of a casual fan.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jun 20, 2011 18:11:39 GMT -5
Knowing what's going on in pro wrestling rarely helps, because it just means you'll notice all the gaping plot holes in the various angles.
There are good guys and bad guys and the announcers will generally tell us which guys are which and we watch them beat each other up a little and groan when we're told we'll have to watch a PPV to get the payoff though sometimes we're lucky and we don't have to.
That's pro wrestling in a nutshell.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Jun 20, 2011 18:40:57 GMT -5
It's weird, I used to work with this guy who was "nuts" about WWE... but only watched Raw. He thought NXT was a waste of time, didn't care about Superstars (it was for the "no-hopers") and didn't bother watching Smackdown. That's a casual fan. You know... morons. I'm a moron because I don't watch NXT and Superstars, and only watch Smackdown sporadically? Gee, thanks.
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Jun 20, 2011 18:52:42 GMT -5
I'll be honest. I'm a bit tired of trying to acquiesce to casual fans. I admit it. I look at the people that say they love WWE but don't even bother to watch Smackdown, either on TV or through the countless venues online, with a little bit of smart mark disdain. I do. I know that's lame and stupid, but I do.
If I were to watch an episode of Raw with someone that only knows who John Cena is and wants to ask me when Rock or Steve Austin is coming back, it's not gonna be a fun experience for me. I don't think of the casual fans as morons or nearly retarded in the same way WWE does (because they're booking for the casual fans) but they just not worth me trying to be around or talk with. They can call themselves fans, but the caveat of CASUAL is there for a reason.
Trash me all you want. I can't turn it off.
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Post by alabastergrim on Jun 20, 2011 18:56:05 GMT -5
I'll be honest. I'm a bit tired of trying to acquiesce to casual fans. I admit it. I look at the people that say they love WWE but don't even bother to watch Smackdown, either on TV or through the countless venues online, with a little bit of smart mark disdain. I do. I know that's lame and stupid, but I do. If I were to watch an episode of Raw with someone that only knows who John Cena is and wants to ask me when Rock or Steve Austin is coming back, it's not gonna be a fun experience for me. I don't think of the casual fans as morons or nearly retarded in the same way WWE does (because they're booking for the casual fans) but they just not worth me trying to be around or talk with. They can call themselves fans, but the caveat of CASUAL is there for a reason. Trash me all you want. I can't turn it off. It's not about trashing you or anything but the fact that you clearly consider yourself a better "fan" than me just because you have more time to sit around and watch TV is absolutely ridiculous. I know what's going on in WWE, I don't have dumbass "When is (blank) coming back?" questions but I really only have time to watch WWE's important show, Raw. You can read Smackdown spoilers online and quite frankly, NXT and Superstars really doesn't matter. Now if you need this to make yourself feel good then by all means, take it, it clearly means more to you anyway but the fact is, posts like yours make wrestling fans look like giant assholes.
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Post by chunkylover53 on Jun 20, 2011 23:32:16 GMT -5
Wait, we still have casual fans? I thought they exodused back in 2002.
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Post by agent817 on Jun 20, 2011 23:39:24 GMT -5
It's hard for me to what I am. I can say that I'm a casual fan in that I could care more about the angles and such, but I still know all the wrestlers and watch wrestling regularly or close to it. There are times when I will miss Raw or Smackdown. I don't watch NXT or Superstars unless I really want to. However, my collection of wrestling DVDs say otherwise. The fact that I have a big collection of wrestling DVDs says that I am more than a casual fan, but that's because I am indeed a fan, but I don't collect memorabilia or try to get every last shirt, nor do I buy action figures or posters. It's hard to say that I am either die hard or casual, but I am in the middle.
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