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Post by bobversion1 on Aug 23, 2011 19:30:23 GMT -5
Do you think Eric should have made his first appearance when he came out being introduced by Vince? Or do you think it was better him debuting in the backstage interview with Booker T?
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Post by MGH on Aug 23, 2011 19:32:55 GMT -5
Just for the suspense and storytelling stand point he should have come out with Vince first. I didn't follow the online news then and when he popped up I was floored. But I think they wanted to pop a giant rating for that segment, and so they teased it and gave people time to call their friends and spread the word.
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Post by kyromax on Aug 23, 2011 19:34:32 GMT -5
The Booker T segment thing was kinda funny, but really wasted the debut.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Aug 23, 2011 19:37:09 GMT -5
The way he debuted was cool in the short term, and pretty funny, but yeah, it was a wasted opportunity. There should have been a LOT more buildup to Eric Bischoff of all people debuting in the WWE.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 23, 2011 19:42:07 GMT -5
Wasted opportunity.
Bischoff should have come in, all friendly with Vince and saying "hey, let bygones be bygones"
But as time went on, we would see subtle signs that Bischoff wasn't content to work "in" WWE but wanted control of it, perhaps as delayed revenge for the defeat of WCW in the Monday Night War.
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Post by moneyman20 on Aug 23, 2011 19:42:08 GMT -5
When people talk about shocking Raw moments, Bischoff showing up as the new GM was truly mind blowing for a someone like me who stuck with WCW until it's ultimate demise. As far as him debuting with Vince first, I disagree wholeheartedly. Bischoff showed up during Booker's interview in the hopes that people would call up their friends to tell them to turn to Raw because Eric Bischoff was about to be on Raw. Raw, the one show that he beat for over 80 weeks in the ratings. So in hindsight, I had no problem with them doing that.
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Post by Burst on Aug 23, 2011 19:56:39 GMT -5
In my mind it's similar to how they spoiled the pop of Jericho's return by having him clothesline the torch runner. If they'd waited and just let the codebreak happen like before the pop would've been even more massive.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Aug 23, 2011 19:58:26 GMT -5
In my mind it's similar to how they spoiled the pop of Jericho's return by having him clothesline the torch runner. If they'd waited and just let the codebreak happen like before the pop would've been even more massive. Yeah, they were both mistakes. My friend actually called Bischoff being the GM while we were watching that night, I was sure it was gonna be Shane O'Mac and he was positive it would be Bischoff. Still have no idea how he figured that out
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Post by avenger on Aug 23, 2011 20:16:57 GMT -5
In my mind it's similar to how they spoiled the pop of Jericho's return by having him clothesline the torch runner. If they'd waited and just let the codebreak happen like before the pop would've been even more massive. Yeah, they were both mistakes. Neither were mistakes - it gave you chance to call your friends and go on line to get people to watch. If Bischoff had just come out, people wouldn't have called their friends, in case they missed what he said - they'd have waited until afterwards. And the fact it worked then (and when Matt Hardy returned on Raw attacking Edge backstage), meant it was likely to work again when Jericho returned - which it did.
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Post by molson5 on Aug 23, 2011 20:23:58 GMT -5
I liked it, even though maybe it wasn't the "right" way to do it. Building up a surprise like that and delivering (as that would have, and as the Rock guest-hosting mania did), is cool - but there's something to be said for the utter shock of having something like that happen out of nowhere, on a random backstage segment. It just makes the show feel unpredictable.
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Post by madness50 on Aug 25, 2011 0:58:59 GMT -5
In my mind it's similar to how they spoiled the pop of Jericho's return by having him clothesline the torch runner. If they'd waited and just let the codebreak happen like before the pop would've been even more massive. Yeah, they were both mistakes. My friend actually called Bischoff being the GM while we were watching that night, I was sure it was gonna be Shane O'Mac and he was positive it would be Bischoff. Still have no idea how he figured that out My Dad said to me right before the Booker T segment, "Twenty bucks Eric Bischoff is the new GM." I lost twenty bucks about three minutes later lol.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 25, 2011 1:54:21 GMT -5
Whether it was botched or not, Bischoff on Raw was the most shocking moment in WWE history second only to the Raw where they announced WCW had been purchased
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Post by -Lithium- on Aug 25, 2011 16:07:27 GMT -5
In my mind it's similar to how they spoiled the pop of Jericho's return by having him clothesline the torch runner. If they'd waited and just let the codebreak happen like before the pop would've been even more massive. Exactly. I remember thinking that when it happened. Also, it looked really stupid for him to just stop and do his pose. When the cameras pulled back further, and hes on the stage with his back to the crowd, it looks cool. When the cameras 5 feet behind him and no ones really behind him, it looks awkward. As for the Bischoff thing, even if the ratings for that night jumped a full percentage point, it wouldn't have been worth spoiling the moment. Down the line, no one's going to care about the ratings for a show in June of 2002. The moment is what lasts...
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