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Post by Baixo Astral on Aug 17, 2011 13:46:49 GMT -5
They worked an excellent technical match against each other on Impact while back. The so often rely on the high flying spots, not because it's all they know, but because the fans eat it up. Exactly. I'm so tired of people thinking that you just need technical wrestling to work a good match. High spot matches aren't stupid. If the guys can do them without getting hurt then why not let them? Remember Rey Mysterio VS Eddie Gurerro at Halloween Havoc? It was a "high spot" match yet it was also considered one of the best matches of the late 90s. Just because the old timers from the territory days in shoot interviews say that the younger guys don't know how to work doesn't mean it's true. People on the internet need to stop kissing their old asses and realize that most of these older guys from the territory days have never watched a lucha libre match in their life. Generation Me knows how to work a good match. Just because they use high risk moves doesn't just make it a spot fest. I'm getting really really tired of this stupid meme that "smart wreslting fans" repeat over and over on the internet because they think their cool or just because someone like Ole Anderson or someone else of that ilk said so. I think that the Sin Cara situation has made people value developmental a little more - WWE style isn't evil, it's different, and Danielson was spot on in wanting to be sent there first, to get it right. Why the hell do people need to be rushed onto the roster, when WWE appear to be realizing that developmental needn't be a factory for generic wrestlers, and rather a place for sharpening up skills. Sin Cara doesn't know English. That is why his matches sometimes look awkward. Of course he isn't going to get it right away. Most of his matches haven't been bad due to "he doesn't know the WWE style". Most of them have been bad because most of the guys in WWE get too gassed out to keep up with him and the lucha libre style. If more people watched lucha libre from CMLL and IWRG they would know this. Tyson Kidd and Daniel Bryan have already proven that Sin Cara can work good in a match. Why can't everyone else on the roster work with Cara?[/quote] Good point, mang... now I like them. GREAT BIG CONSPICOUS ROLLING EYES SMILEY.SARCGASM[/img]
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Post by Cronant on Aug 17, 2011 15:43:46 GMT -5
"BookerT5x A friend RVD made comment few week back..now I no why, i say a small tag team called the YB's did hay shake my hand no! Yes I said SMALL!!!"
womp womp womp.....
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Post by BRAINFADE on Aug 17, 2011 15:54:42 GMT -5
They worked an excellent technical match against each other on Impact while back. The so often rely on the high flying spots, not because it's all they know, but because the fans eat it up. Exactly. I'm so tired of people thinking that you just need technical wrestling to work a good match. High spot matches aren't stupid. If the guys can do them without getting hurt then why not let them? Remember Rey Mysterio VS Eddie Gurerro at Halloween Havoc? It was a "high spot" match yet it was also considered one of the best matches of the late 90s. Just because the old timers from the territory days in shoot interviews say that the younger guys don't know how to work doesn't mean it's true. People on the internet need to stop kissing their old asses and realize that most of these older guys from the territory days have never watched a lucha libre match in their life. Generation Me knows how to work a good match. Just because they use high risk moves doesn't just make it a spot fest. I'm getting really really tired of this stupid meme that "smart wreslting fans" repeat over and over on the internet because they think their cool or just because someone like Ole Anderson or someone else of that ilk said so. I think that the Sin Cara situation has made people value developmental a little more - WWE style isn't evil, it's different, and Danielson was spot on in wanting to be sent there first, to get it right. Why the hell do people need to be rushed onto the roster, when WWE appear to be realizing that developmental needn't be a factory for generic wrestlers, and rather a place for sharpening up skills. Sin Cara doesn't know English. That is why his matches sometimes look awkward. Of course he isn't going to get it right away. Most of his matches haven't been bad due to "he doesn't know the WWE style". Most of them have been bad because most of the guys in WWE get too gassed out to keep up with him and the lucha libre style. If more people watched lucha libre from CMLL and IWRG they would know this. Tyson Kidd and Daniel Bryan have already proven that Sin Cara can work good in a match. Why can't everyone else on the roster work with Cara?[/quote] *applauds*
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Post by Kash Flagg on Aug 17, 2011 15:57:30 GMT -5
"BookerT5x A friend RVD made comment few week back..now I no why, i say a small tag team called the YB's did hay shake my hand no! Yes I said SMALL!!!" womp womp womp..... Can someone translate that into english?
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Post by Cronant on Aug 17, 2011 15:58:34 GMT -5
"I see why RVD made those comments a few weeks back. Those youngters did not shake my hand either. They are small"
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 17, 2011 15:58:50 GMT -5
"BookerT5x A friend RVD made comment few week back..now I no why, i say a small tag team called the YB's did hay shake my hand no! Yes I said SMALL!!!" womp womp womp..... Can someone translate that into english? They didn't shake and introduced themselves to Booker T and he is concurring about RVD's story he said about the Bucks.
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Post by Cronant on Aug 17, 2011 16:00:58 GMT -5
I imagine them just walking by Booker T, while he stands there, and afterwards, gives a "WUT DA HAYUL!!"
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Post by Kash Flagg on Aug 17, 2011 16:01:39 GMT -5
I see.
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Post by froggyfrog on Aug 17, 2011 16:08:45 GMT -5
What was RVDs story about the young bucks?
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Aug 17, 2011 16:43:08 GMT -5
A little clearer message from Booker: @bookert5x Repost:: To make it clear,I saw two small guys at tv this week,then I past them during the day,they never introduce themselves, and later - One of them was leaning on my jacket and still never introduce themselves... No RESPECTnow do u get it.
But then later:
@booker5x: "Q.chances of a Harlem heat reunion." Now that's an idea, can u see Harlem Heat vs the YB's that would be great.
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Aug 17, 2011 17:22:46 GMT -5
I wonder if he is being serious or not? The whole RVD thing seemed a bit overblown. According to the Young Bucks RVD never came up to shake their hand either so I think RVD is blowing what he said way out of proportion. If Booker T is adding to it by being a jackass just joking or if he is really serious he needs to relax.
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Post by mystikz on Aug 17, 2011 18:10:10 GMT -5
maybe Booker passed them by the mens room and they didn't trust where his hands had been and didn't want to shake and when Booker meant they were small he meant .... you know. SUCKA.
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Post by Cronant on Aug 17, 2011 19:01:24 GMT -5
You can't just lean all up on Booker T's jacket without introducing yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2011 19:34:34 GMT -5
Are there rumors concerning Beer Money to the E, or is that just internet hope?
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Post by celticjobber on Aug 17, 2011 19:40:45 GMT -5
Are there rumors concerning Beer Money to the E, or is that just internet hope? The rumor is that WWE wants them as part of HHH's "re-building" of the tag division. I'm not sure how long they're under contract to TNA though.
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Post by froggyfrog on Aug 17, 2011 19:41:43 GMT -5
What was RVDs story about the young bucks?
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Aug 17, 2011 19:44:23 GMT -5
What was RVDs story about the young bucks? Basically, RVD said they were young and didn't kiss his ass backstage so they weren't worth having around. RVD's sideYB's side
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Post by EzioAuditoreDaFirenze on Aug 17, 2011 20:25:27 GMT -5
They worked an excellent technical match against each other on Impact while back. The so often rely on the high flying spots, not because it's all they know, but because the fans eat it up. Exactly. I'm so tired of people thinking that you just need technical wrestling to work a good match. High spot matches aren't stupid. If the guys can do them without getting hurt then why not let them? Remember Rey Mysterio VS Eddie Gurerro at Halloween Havoc? It was a "high spot" match yet it was also considered one of the best matches of the late 90s. Just because the old timers from the territory days in shoot interviews say that the younger guys don't know how to work doesn't mean it's true. People on the internet need to stop kissing their old asses and realize that most of these older guys from the territory days have never watched a lucha libre match in their life. Generation Me knows how to work a good match. Just because they use high risk moves doesn't just make it a spot fest. I'm getting really really tired of this stupid meme that "smart wreslting fans" repeat over and over on the internet because they think their cool or just because someone like Ole Anderson or someone else of that ilk said so. I think that the Sin Cara situation has made people value developmental a little more - WWE style isn't evil, it's different, and Danielson was spot on in wanting to be sent there first, to get it right. Why the hell do people need to be rushed onto the roster, when WWE appear to be realizing that developmental needn't be a factory for generic wrestlers, and rather a place for sharpening up skills. Sin Cara doesn't know English. That is why his matches sometimes look awkward. Of course he isn't going to get it right away. Most of his matches haven't been bad due to "he doesn't know the WWE style". Most of them have been bad because most of the guys in WWE get too gassed out to keep up with him and the lucha libre style. If more people watched lucha libre from CMLL and IWRG they would know this. Tyson Kidd and Daniel Bryan have already proven that Sin Cara can work good in a match. Why can't everyone else on the roster work with Cara?[/quote] Agreed 100%. That's one of the reason i don't care for WWE's matches alot. There too damn boring and slow. Its like they all follow the same formula. I don't care about "physcology" in throwaway matches where they don't mean shit. I love spotfest and i love high flying. I'll take TNA's old X-Division over anything any day. I really wish WWE had there own "X-Division" Where guys like Evan Bourne and Tyson Kidd could shine.
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Post by Twincest on Aug 17, 2011 20:26:19 GMT -5
Just goes to show you how backwards the wrestling world can be sometimes. Elsewhere, there is such a concept as being a good host or ambassador for your company. Part of that entails introducing yourself to new workers and trying to make them feel welcome. The new workers are already out of their comfort zone and are likely to be somewhat intimidated, so it's much easier for the current employee to open up the lines of communication.
Could it be an ego thing?
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Aug 17, 2011 20:42:22 GMT -5
From what I've seen of the Bucks, they're spot monkeys. I saw them have a match against MCMG on PPV once and the entire match made no sense since it was just the four of them jumping to the outside and doing these nonsensical spots for no real reason the whole match.
Oh and More Bang For Your Buck is an awful finisher that makes no sense in the spectrum of wrestling. It's there to be flashy.
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