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Post by Kash Flagg on May 5, 2011 19:48:40 GMT -5
And without the WWE, half the TNA roster would be irrelevant, name wise. I don't see the point in that argument. Okay, I don't mean to be a jerk but, I'll spell it out for you than. Between 2007 and 2009 TNA booked a women wrestling division that was not about looks, but rather about inring work and diverse characters. Kong was the main attraction of said division. Both Steve Austin and JR were exposed to Kong's character and work via her TNA stint within that unique environment. Both Steve Austin and JR were later instrumental in bringing Kong into the WWE. No stint of Kong in TNA equals no "Kharama" in WWE. My arugment is based on simple cause & effect, nothing complicated, convoluted or incorrect about it. The causal chain is clear and easy to follow. That's a pretty damn good point.
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Post by Michael Coello on May 5, 2011 20:06:41 GMT -5
I think, big cheeks aside, she looks fine.
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Post by Greer on May 6, 2011 2:05:04 GMT -5
Okay, I don't mean to be a jerk but, I'll spell it out for you than. Between 2007 and 2009 TNA booked a women wrestling division that was not about looks, but rather about inring work and diverse characters. Kong was the main attraction of said division. Both Steve Austin and JR were exposed to Kong's character and work via her TNA stint within that unique environment. Both Steve Austin and JR were later instrumental in bringing Kong into the WWE. No stint of Kong in TNA equals no "Kharama" in WWE. My arugment is based on simple cause & effect, nothing complicated, convoluted or incorrect about it. The causal chain is clear and easy to follow. That's a pretty damn good point. Yes she made her name the most in TNA. Thats very obvious. What? I understand that. What? I get what you're saying. What? I comprehend that. What? I GET IT! MY point is, the Kharma angle in WWE is a big deal for the Divas division and Vince has no concern for Chyna being in TNA. Yes she made her name in TNA. The point is, she is in the WWE now and most fans of the WWE probably don't even know TNA even exists, so for them they are seeing something brand new anyway. I know the cause and effect of the matter, but I'm simply saying Vince is not losing sleep about this Chyna angle and I'm sure doesn't think it will effect the Kharma angle in the slightest. That was my whole point from the start. Yes TNA deserves credit for showcasing Kong. Whoopty Doo. The argument is pointless though. No Kong in Japan and on the independents = No Kong in TNA See how that works?
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on May 6, 2011 3:14:54 GMT -5
Gotta say, I'm impressed. She doesn't look too bad; actually, better than I expected. I hope she can work, if not as good as she used to. If she can, though, that would be great. Hopefully this works out; and honestly, more for her than for TNA. I'm rooting for her.
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Post by hornshigh on May 6, 2011 3:59:13 GMT -5
Well, that's one question answered - she looks good. Now I'm looking forward to seeing if she's still got the in-ring ability.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on May 6, 2011 4:01:59 GMT -5
I'm sorry if it's been asked already. But can they really call her "Chyna" in TNA? I'd assume that WWE would have a total lock on that name.
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Post by jrcz on May 6, 2011 4:11:45 GMT -5
I'm sorry if it's been asked already. But can they really call her "Chyna" in TNA? I'd assume that WWE would have a total lock on that name. She won the rights.
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Post by Ryushinku on May 6, 2011 4:34:01 GMT -5
Mick's looking good, but that silver shirt doesn't do anything for his upper body *thumbs up*
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Post by Kitty Shamrocks on May 6, 2011 7:50:37 GMT -5
Use apostrophes after certain words to show possession . For example, the plural form of "Diva" is "Divas", not "Diva's". No offense, but I think this will help your writing in the future(especially for any essays or school work you may turn in) Dude, who cares about my spelling. It's the internet, I make mistake's.
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Post by Ryushinku on May 6, 2011 7:55:18 GMT -5
...looks like Waltman from the back...
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Post by Celgress on May 6, 2011 8:48:29 GMT -5
That's a pretty damn good point. Yes she made her name the most in TNA. Thats very obvious. What? I understand that. What? I get what you're saying. What? I comprehend that. What? I GET IT! MY point is, the Kharma angle in WWE is a big deal for the Divas division and Vince has no concern for Chyna being in TNA. Yes she made her name in TNA. The point is, she is in the WWE now and most fans of the WWE probably don't even know TNA even exists, so for them they are seeing something brand new anyway. I know the cause and effect of the matter, but I'm simply saying Vince is not losing sleep about this Chyna angle and I'm sure doesn't think it will effect the Kharma angle in the slightest. That was my whole point from the start. Yes TNA deserves credit for showcasing Kong. Whoopty Doo. The argument is pointless though. No Kong in Japan and on the independents = No Kong in TNA See how that works? My point still stands, her work in Japan got her into TNA BUT her work in TNA get her into the WWE. See people don't like to give TNA credit for anything. While I know they have mostly really bad booking, I still give them credit where credit is due (see the Christian in TNA thread for a good example of excellent TNA booking). Kong's TNA run was nothing short of spectacular, revolutionary even.
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Post by lionheart21 on May 6, 2011 22:40:04 GMT -5
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Post by Andrew is Good on May 7, 2011 1:27:30 GMT -5
Yes she made her name the most in TNA. Thats very obvious. What? I understand that. What? I get what you're saying. What? I comprehend that. What? I GET IT! MY point is, the Kharma angle in WWE is a big deal for the Divas division and Vince has no concern for Chyna being in TNA. Yes she made her name in TNA. The point is, she is in the WWE now and most fans of the WWE probably don't even know TNA even exists, so for them they are seeing something brand new anyway. I know the cause and effect of the matter, but I'm simply saying Vince is not losing sleep about this Chyna angle and I'm sure doesn't think it will effect the Kharma angle in the slightest. That was my whole point from the start. Yes TNA deserves credit for showcasing Kong. Whoopty Doo. The argument is pointless though. No Kong in Japan and on the independents = No Kong in TNA See how that works? My point still stands, her work in Japan got her into TNA BUT her work in TNA get her into the WWE. See people don't like to give TNA credit for anything. While I know they have mostly really bad booking, I still give them credit where credit is due (see the Christian in TNA thread for a good example of excellent TNA booking). Kong's TNA run was nothing short of spectacular, revolutionary even. Not only that, but one could argue the same thing for Marcus Cor Von, Vance Archer, Braden Walker (not good examples, but certainly their TNA work was what got them noticed for WWE), and more successful names like bringing in R-Truth straight to TV, and Christian potentially being viewed as a main event talent.
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Post by Hugh Mungus on May 7, 2011 9:47:00 GMT -5
I'm sorry if it's been asked already. But can they really call her "Chyna" in TNA? I'd assume that WWE would have a total lock on that name. She won the rights. More like, a couple of years ago, WWE let the "Chyna" trademark lapse, and when she found out, she legally changed her name to Chyna. This is similar to how James Hellwig legally changed his name to Warrior, but the major difference between him and Chyna was that Hellwig has been using the Warrior gimmick before he became the Ultimate Warrior in the WWF.
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Post by PKO on May 7, 2011 9:47:22 GMT -5
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Post by derrtaysouth95 on May 8, 2011 10:08:07 GMT -5
She looks great for her age and all the crap she's put in her body (drugs....xpac...alcohol...who knows what else).
Hopefully she's clean.
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Post by Efren on May 8, 2011 10:20:25 GMT -5
She looks fantastic.
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Post by Celgress on May 8, 2011 10:22:40 GMT -5
She looks great for her age and all the crap she's put in her body (drugs....xpac...alcohol...who knows what else). Hopefully she's clean. X-pac being by far the worst on the list, and also the most disgusting.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2011 14:50:12 GMT -5
I dislike Karen Angle as a character (personal life has nothing to do with me) so if this results in Chyna taking her off of programming for a year I'll be more willing to watch Angle/Jarrett segments again.
She looks great, hopefully she is clean and this is a one off thing to see if she holds up without relapses, and finally ends the Angle/Jarrett family storyline which is just utter cringe outside of the decent match quality. Plus Chyna's history with Jarrett (despite being in another company) adds a little bit of depth and interest.
A TNA hiring that works well for me if they handle it right, and by that I mean if Karen gets the Hell away from an on screen role, she is awful.
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Post by klapaucius on May 8, 2011 14:59:32 GMT -5
Don't treat her like a woman, don't treat her like a man.
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