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Post by noleafclover1980 on Aug 21, 2011 5:20:25 GMT -5
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Post by Vampiro138 on Aug 21, 2011 10:49:26 GMT -5
i recall Axl talking about it being written way earlier than that. i believe the song was written by Izzy, and the original version had some help from Traci Gunns too. (another part of the Traci's lawsuit if i recall...it mostly had to do with not getting credit for helping write quite a few songs in the gnr catalog...he got a really really nice ammount of money for it out of court)
November Rain is another one that apparently was written before Axl left indiana, as i remember hearing Izzy and Shannon Hoon talking Axl playing it whenever he would get near a piano back then.
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Post by King Boo on Aug 21, 2011 11:04:24 GMT -5
i recall Axl talking about it being written way earlier than that. i believe the song was written by Izzy, and the original version had some help from Traci Gunns too. (another part of the Traci's lawsuit if i recall...it mostly had to do with not getting credit for helping write quite a few songs in the gnr catalog...he got a really really nice ammount of money for it out of court) November Rain is another one that apparently was written before Axl left indiana, as i remember hearing Izzy and Shannon Hoon talking Axl playing it whenever he would get near a piano back then. Yea, I've read Axl had worked on November Rain for forever. That song was definitely his baby. It was also something like 18 minutes at one point. There are a few songs on Use Your Illusions that were written earlier than than and saved for later. I find that randomly interesting. |
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Post by Vampiro138 on Aug 21, 2011 11:15:06 GMT -5
i recall Axl talking about it being written way earlier than that. i believe the song was written by Izzy, and the original version had some help from Traci Gunns too. (another part of the Traci's lawsuit if i recall...it mostly had to do with not getting credit for helping write quite a few songs in the gnr catalog...he got a really really nice ammount of money for it out of court) November Rain is another one that apparently was written before Axl left indiana, as i remember hearing Izzy and Shannon Hoon talking Axl playing it whenever he would get near a piano back then. Yea, I've read Axl had worked on November Rain for forever. That song was definitely his baby. It was also something like 18 minutes at one point. There are a few songs on Use Your Illusions that were written earlier than than and saved for later. I find that randomly interesting. yeah, i remember Tracii Gunns talking about in the 90's on mtv about working on You Could Be Mine with Izzy and Axl in early 85. i also remember him saying something similiar about Civil War too. |
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Post by King Boo on Aug 21, 2011 11:31:22 GMT -5
Yea, I've read Axl had worked on November Rain for forever. That song was definitely his baby. It was also something like 18 minutes at one point. There are a few songs on Use Your Illusions that were written earlier than than and saved for later. I find that randomly interesting. yeah, i remember Tracii Gunns talking about in the 90's on mtv about working on You Could Be Mine with Izzy and Axl in early 85. i also remember him saying something similiar about Civil War too. You Could Be Mine is one of the ones I heard was from earlier also. Admittedly though, I haven't heard much about Tracii's involvement in specific songs. |
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Post by Vampiro138 on Aug 21, 2011 11:35:48 GMT -5
yeah, i remember Tracii Gunns talking about in the 90's on mtv about working on You Could Be Mine with Izzy and Axl in early 85. i also remember him saying something similiar about Civil War too. You Could Be Mine is one of the ones I heard was from earlier also. Admittedly though, I haven't heard much about Tracii's involvement in specific songs. from Tracii's lawsuit that Axl gave him a very very large settlement out of court for (dont remember the price though, but i remember it being amazing how much he actually got to basically shut up about it) Tracii said he helped write... Welcome To the Jungle Anything Goes the ending riff for Rocket Queen parts of Nightrain Dont Cry Civil War You Could Be Mine there could be more...thats all i can remember off the top of my head though....his lawsuit was all around how he didnt get any credit for helping write those songs. |
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Post by King Boo on Aug 21, 2011 12:31:39 GMT -5
You Could Be Mine is one of the ones I heard was from earlier also. Admittedly though, I haven't heard much about Tracii's involvement in specific songs. from Tracii's lawsuit that Axl gave him a very very large settlement out of court for (dont remember the price though, but i remember it being amazing how much he actually got to basically shut up about it) Tracii said he helped write... Welcome To the Jungle Anything Goes the ending riff for Rocket Queen parts of Nightrain Dont Cry Civil War You Could Be Mine there could be more...thats all i can remember off the top of my head though....his lawsuit was all around how he didnt get any credit for helping write those songs. I'm totally gonna look this up and read about it now. He really did shut up about it because I've read many books/articles on GNR and never really heard much about Tracii outside of him having been in and out of various incarnations of the band with Axl and Izzy. He must have gotten *a lot* of money lol |
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Post by Vampiro138 on Aug 21, 2011 12:37:15 GMT -5
from Tracii's lawsuit that Axl gave him a very very large settlement out of court for (dont remember the price though, but i remember it being amazing how much he actually got to basically shut up about it) Tracii said he helped write... Welcome To the Jungle Anything Goes the ending riff for Rocket Queen parts of Nightrain Dont Cry Civil War You Could Be Mine there could be more...thats all i can remember off the top of my head though....his lawsuit was all around how he didnt get any credit for helping write those songs. I'm totally gonna look this up and read about it now. He really did shut up about it because I've read many books/articles on GNR and never really heard much about Tracii outside of him having been in and out of various incarnations of the band with Axl and Izzy. He must have gotten *a lot* of money lol yeah, im just rembering what i heard on mtv back when he filed the lawsuit. and i recall somebody...i think West Arkeen saying something around the lines of "i cant believe Axl gave him that much money, really really generous of him" i do recall when buckethead left, Tracii said he had sent Axl an e-mail asking him to bring him back into the band...but i dont think Axl got back to him. |
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Post by King Boo on Aug 21, 2011 13:18:26 GMT -5
I'm totally gonna look this up and read about it now. He really did shut up about it because I've read many books/articles on GNR and never really heard much about Tracii outside of him having been in and out of various incarnations of the band with Axl and Izzy. He must have gotten *a lot* of money lol yeah, im just rembering what i heard on mtv back when he filed the lawsuit. and i recall somebody...i think West Arkeen saying something around the lines of "i cant believe Axl gave him that much money, really really generous of him" i do recall when buckethead left, Tracii said he had sent Axl an e-mail asking him to bring him back into the band...but i dont think Axl got back to him. LOL I don't know what I love more, Tracii asking to be in the band or Axl not getting back to him. |
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Post by Red Lion on Aug 21, 2011 16:06:43 GMT -5
I believe Don't Cry is actually the first song GNR ever wrote
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Post by thegreatnodnarb on Aug 21, 2011 17:07:05 GMT -5
yeah, im just rembering what i heard on mtv back when he filed the lawsuit. and i recall somebody...i think West Arkeen saying something around the lines of "i cant believe Axl gave him that much money, really really generous of him" i do recall when buckethead left, Tracii said he had sent Axl an e-mail asking him to bring him back into the band...but i dont think Axl got back to him. LOL I don't know what I love more, Tracii asking to be in the band or Axl not getting back to him. That is pretty funny. I guess this is why Tracii had to go back to L.A. Guns....which there are two versions of these days |
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