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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Apr 23, 2012 13:36:03 GMT -5
Yes after opening statements I will let the jury have the floor and then give the contestants rebuttal time.
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Post by J on Apr 23, 2012 17:16:16 GMT -5
Since these are opening statements i'll probably keep this pretty brief. I'll leave out details about alliances and such out for now. I'm sure there will be time enough for that with questions and rebuttals. First and foremost I want to give a big thanks to ritt, for doing a damn fine job of hosting and sticking with this thing through til the end. Also, congrats to two solid players, Notorious and BB for making it here as well. To be honest I'm really shocked that I made it this far. When I signed up I didn't think I would make it to the merge. Which of course I didn't. I knew coming in I was a huge underdog, and from the start I know I was not on alot of people's radars. From naming the French Toast Mafia, coming back from Redemption Island, winning a couple immunity challenges, and having some solid showings in others I feel like I earned my spot here. Being here does somewhat feel like some vindication, because it seems like I was underestimated by more then a few people. And on the other hand I really want to thank those who took a chance on me and believed in me, you know who you are . I don't really have any questions yet, I want to see what kind of questions others have first. As well as what Notorious and BB have to say. So like I said I'll keep this brief.
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Post by Brainbustaaah! on Apr 23, 2012 17:27:30 GMT -5
I'm gonna echo J's sentiment. Thanks for being our host, Ritt, and congratulations to J and Notorious for making it here.
Well...I have to say, making it this far is a bit of vindication personally. I remember last time I felt so incredibly frustrated at falling short, and being able to stand here at the end of the road is huge for me. I feel like nobody really saw me as a huge threat. Honestly, I've learned from last time. I got my head up, I spoke out, and I got reaped. I might not have been overly vocal about it, but I pulled my weight for my team, and that's why I'm here. Thank you to the people that helped me get here, thank you to those who I was up against for providing competition...good luck to my opponents here in the final.
I'll answer questions if they're asked of me. Notorious, you're up.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2012 17:38:52 GMT -5
Boy it feels good to be here. It's been a long, strange journey. Congrats to the other two contestants for making it to the end. You both definitely deserve to be here.
People started playing this game on Day 1 and I knew I was going to have to work hard if I wanted to make it to the finals. I honestly didn't ever feel like I was in any great danger, but it still feels great to get here without ever receiving a single vote at Tribal Council. That's probably partly due to my success in challenges, but I'd like to think a big part of it was my gameplay. I kept my head, thought logically, and tried to make the best and smartest decisions I could.
I hope everyone kept watch on this game even after they got voted off, and I'm ready to answer any and all questions. I've got A TON of PMs in my Inbox and Outbox about this game, so it's all still fresh for me. Hopefully everything I want to get across comes out with your questions, but I'll include anything I think you should know in my closing statement.
So bring on your questions. I'm sure they'll be fantastic, and I'm sure all three of us will provide some quality insight to why we're here.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Apr 23, 2012 23:04:30 GMT -5
The forum is open now for questions.
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Apr 24, 2012 8:07:18 GMT -5
Do we only get to ask one? Or can we have several?
I have a small list of questions, but if I'm only allowed to ask one... I'd rather wait to see if others ask some of them.
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Post by TOO SWEET on Apr 24, 2012 9:38:13 GMT -5
This is a question for each of you.
Why do your opponents deserve to win more than you?
(Also, don't give me a lame "they don't". Give an actual reason)
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Apr 24, 2012 9:59:58 GMT -5
Ask as many questions as you deem appropriate. Also you can ask more than once. However the open forum will be closed by Wednesday after Survivor airs. The contestants will have 12 hours after to answer any questions.
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Apr 24, 2012 10:08:36 GMT -5
Thanks ritt
Survivors remaining... this is the toughest part of the game. And remember, all three of you can't win. Playing nice here could cost you the game.
Questions for all three:
- Had everything gone your way from day 1, who did you visualize to be sitting up here with you two? Cannot name both the other contestants, but can include one if you like.
- Who initiated the idea to get rid of spartan at final 5?
- What do you regret most over the last 297 days?
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Post by Jazzman on Apr 24, 2012 10:13:43 GMT -5
One question:
If you had to replace the people next to you in the final 3 with members of the jury, who do you think deserved to be there next to you.
(I guess that's kinda like SnS' first question, but slightly different)
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Apr 24, 2012 10:47:35 GMT -5
Well, first, Bergman took the question I was going to ask.
Secondly, I do have to admit that this is a bit awkward, as the ones I'd REALLY want to grill (SNS, Veronica, Spartan, and pegasuswarrior) are on the jury.
Now to my comments on the three of you.
J, congratulations on benefitting from my poor thinking. I can't help but think that the game would have been different if I had bought the RI coin and not the guaranteed immunity.
BB, congratulations on playing a surprisingly good under-the-radar game.
Notorious, in light of who some of the alliances were, you really surprised me by making it this far and outlasting the three that I'd figured to be the biggest power players in this season (PW, Veronica, SNS). Great job.
Having said all of this, here are my questions:
1. Notorious, did you feel that you were on the outside looking in at a bigger alliance, which I would assume had SNS, Veronica, PW, and/or Spartan at its core?
2. BB, do you feel that maybe you flew too far under the radar to score with the jury?
3. J, how much do you think the slightest miscue in a challenge affects a contestant's survival?
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Apr 24, 2012 10:52:59 GMT -5
The post awards discussion should be fun.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2012 13:48:10 GMT -5
SNS’S QUESTIONS:
People don’t realize it and it’s funny that no one ever figured it out, but Brainbustaaah and I have been working together since the beginning. The plan the whole time was for the two of us to get to the final 2. And since you said I can’t choose both of the other two, I’d go with Spartan. He and I started an alliance around the time after Toates Madhackviper got voted off, and we were supposed to be in the finals together. He ended up doing some things that messed that up, but if he hadn’t, it was supposed to be him. J wasn’t really going to be my third guy until Spartan started doing things for himself.
Basically here’s what happened. (Assuming Spartan was telling me the truth about most things.) Street Spartan and I had an alliance to make it to the finals, and we told Bergman he was our third, even though we were never going to let him get that far. He was however supposed to last longer than SnS. We were going to vote SnS out, and Spartan started telling me he was worried that Berg and I were going to team up against him, so he was going to use the Immunity Idol to save himself… but instead he used it to save SnS and vote out Bergman. I know that doesn’t look so bad when you think that we were going to vote off Berg next anyway, but when it’s coupled with him originally lying about having an Immunity Idol (which I understand), and teaming up with Sawyer on Redemption Island instead of Gus, who we were supposed to be on the same page with (which I also understand because Gus and Jono were a team), it was the third time he had done something suspicious. He had done so many things to make me uncomfortable and SnS had said he didn’t care about winning, so it was the perfect time to get rid of him. It was easily justified because I didn’t want him to do the same thing to me that he did to Berg.
I had been making the decisions for a while on who to boot, and I didn’t want J to think I was controlling everything, so I asked him who he’d rather get rid of between SnS and Spartan, while hinting that it’d be smarter to get rid of Spartan, and he picked Spartan. My plan the whole time after Spartan used the Idol on SnS was to get rid of Spartan if he didn’t win Immunity and I knew that’s how BB and I were voting no matter what, but I let J think he was making the decision so he’d feel safer and not think I was making all the decisions.
I really don’t regret anything. If I had to choose one thing, it would be no-showing the initial Reward Challenge. I missed it and it cost the French Toast Mafia the win. So in missing that, I started at the bottom of the tribe. Thankfully I did well in the rest of our tribe vs. tribe challenges, and proved myself to the rest of the group. But really I think that’s the only thing I would change.
BERGMAN’S QUESTION:
Honestly I think Gus got a bad deal. I worked on getting him secretly aligned with myself and Spartan, and we were ready to vote Pegasus out. Then everyone turned against that idea and decided to vote him out because he had guaranteed Immunity in the next round. I felt bad about that because I had told him he was safe, so I made sure to tell him he was going to get voted off so he could save himself if he had an Idol. Unfortunately he didn’t have one, so he got out, but I’d definitely give him the first of my other final 2 spots.
The second person would be Street Spartan. Out of the people who didn't make it to the final 3, I think he played the best game. People didn't get to see the scheming that he and I were doing, but he had some really good ideas. It's unfortunate that things turned out the way they did, but he'd be my other choice.
GUS RICHLEN’S QUESTION:
I did at first. I don’t know how many people know this, but on the first day an alliance was formed between Street Spartan, Sweet N Sour, Toates Madhackviper, and Brainbustaaah (or at least that’s what they told BB). So from the very first day I was on the outside looking in. I was ready to jump to the Wasakes whenever the merge came around. Fortunately I got my hope back when Spartan PMed me and told me the plan was to vote out Toates because he was inactive. I was excited because honestly going into this game, he was the one I was most worried about since he’s a giant Survivor fan. So from that day I started to plot and plan with Spartan more and more, and eventually I worked my way into the main French Toast group and started being a decision maker. I was the guy doing the go-between and telling people who to vote for, and I definitely decided who we should vote out on more than one occasion. I don’t think people realize how in-control I really was. There were a few times when they threw me for a loop (like when SnS used his Idol), but I generally felt good about my position. People also probably don’t realize that I had a Hidden Immunity Idol while Spartan was on Redemption Island. That coupled with Brainbustaaah’s vote every week, and a firm trust in J kept me pretty safe.
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Post by Jazzman on Apr 24, 2012 13:59:46 GMT -5
The post awards discussion should be fun. That'w what I'm thinking...
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Post by Brainbustaaah! on Apr 24, 2012 19:04:47 GMT -5
Notorious did more, simply. He said more, he made more decisions, he made more deals, and he pushed the game in the direction it went more. He was throwing more muscle into it. As for J, he played his cards intelligently, and he clawed his way back into things. He came back from Redemption Island, and he proved that he deserved his spot here at the bare minimum, if not the whole deal. Notorious, as he said. It was the plan to make it this far with the both of us when we thought we were looking at Final Two. As for someone else I'd want up here...Peg. I know that might seem weird, but I feel like Pegasus has gotten the short end of the stick in two consecutive Survivor games, and both times it felt really weird to see such a strong player go that way. Definitely Notorious. Not speaking up individually more. I feel like I might have played it too low-key. I won a challenge, helped with others, but honestly I feel like the work I did might have been too behind-the-scenes. Also, I regret that "Things will never...E-E-EEEEVER...be the same uh-gain" TC vote. Richlen definitely got a raw deal, so he's up there. As for the other...I'm gonna reiterate Pegasus, but there's a lot of people that really played good games and, had things gone just a bit differently, might have been sitting here. I don't think so. I feel like playing under the radar meant I didn't have an opportunity to piss everyone off. I didn't want to stab people in the back to get here, so being able to fly low and not have to overtly throw anyone under the bus was part of how I played the game. If people think I wasn't doing enough, then I don't know what to say other than that I did what I had to in order to make it this far.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2012 19:16:45 GMT -5
This is a question for each of you. Why do your opponents deserve to win more than you? (Also, don't give me a lame "they don't". Give an actual reason) I missed this question when I did my answers earlier. Brainbustaaah and J deserve to win more than I do because they were kind of my backbone. I might have been the one out there making the moves and doing the scheming for us, but without knowing that I had those two guys votes backing me up, I wouldn't have had the guts to try the things I did. I was the face and the words, and they were the legs that helped move the operation along.
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Post by J on Apr 25, 2012 0:56:52 GMT -5
Apologies for not getting to this earlier today. I've been having internet problems. Why do your opponents deserve to win more than you? Notorious: He did a lot of the heavy lifting, and is probably the reason that BB and I are here. Brainbustaaah!: I think he may have played the best game of all of us. Sticking under the radar and never really being in danger of being voted off. - Had everything gone your way from day 1, who did you visualize to be sitting up here with you two? Cannot name both the other contestants, but can include one if you like. I'm a pretty loyal guy so I would have to say the two main allies that I had in this game. My original ally and the person that first put his trust in me Pegasus. And the guy would reached out to me after I cashed in my RI token and got back into the tribe Notorious. Notorious initiated it, and yes he hinted to me about getting rid of Spartan. However, when you gave up your immunity to Notorious I knew immediately that it was time for Spartan to go. I figured that you had maybe run out of gas. That was confirmed for me by Notorious telling me that you said you didn't want to win. And my winning the final challenge by default cemented that getting Spartan out of the way when we did was the right decision. I can't really say that I regret too much after getting to this point. If I had to pick something though it would probably be not speaking up enough back when I was in the Wasake tribe. If you had to replace the people next to you in the final 3 with members of the jury, who do you think deserved to be there next to you. Pegasus: A very strong player who seemed to stick around longer then you would think possible. Notorious: He had a vision, and did whatever he could possible to see it through. 3. J, how much do you think the slightest miscue in a challenge affects a contestant's survival? The challenges can make or break everything. You can do all the scheming and plotting you want. Coming up short in a challenge can unravel even the most careful of planning, and turn the tide.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2012 1:25:25 GMT -5
Somebody poke Pegasus, Jono, or Lodi and see if they want to ask us questions. I'm loving this.
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Apr 25, 2012 8:14:19 GMT -5
Good TC thus far.
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Post by lodirulz on Apr 25, 2012 17:47:27 GMT -5
Well, it's been a while since I posted up on here. It's good to see that members of the alliance that I was in made it this far. Even if, if I remember correctly, you betrayed me. (Ignore that comment if it wasn't true)
My questions are simple:
Be honest: Out of all the remaining players, which one has played the best? You can say yourself, but I'd rather hear a different opinion.
If any plans that you have made failed during a point in the game, what was Plan B, if any was made?
And, a more serious question:
Did you really believe you would make it this far?
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