Allie Kitsune
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Feb 27, 2012 12:16:30 GMT -5
Well, part of that is probably in that Austin years after retirement is still a far, far bigger star than Triple H ever was. And yeah, I agree on Test - complete missed opportunity. Here's one - at his peak, Umaga was more entertaining than Samoa Joe at his. Your point about Austin being a star actually furthers my point though. Hell, Austin refused to put HHH himself over, which is VERY ironic. Umaga is a sad case. He had the tools to be a player. His match against Cena at the Rumble is one of my top 5 favorites ever Which leads to another. -Umaga being erased from WWE history pisses me off way more than Benoit being erased from WWE history.
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Post by Cam on Feb 27, 2012 12:23:41 GMT -5
Your point about Austin being a star actually furthers my point though. Hell, Austin refused to put HHH himself over, which is VERY ironic. Umaga is a sad case. He had the tools to be a player. His match against Cena at the Rumble is one of my top 5 favorites ever Which leads to another. -Umaga being erased from WWE history pisses me off way more than Benoit being erased from WWE history. How has he been erased from WWE history? The guy still has an Alumni page on WWE.com for pete's sake.
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Post by dlg3000 on Feb 27, 2012 12:38:30 GMT -5
When was Umaga erased from WWE history? I didn't know this.
Here is one more:
I think it is sad that Chris Benoit was erased from WWE history because he said that "wrestling was his mistress". He seemed to have loved wrestling more so than even HHH and Ric Flair, both of whom have said that they loved the business. That is a rather cruel irony come to think of it.
However, I think that under the circumstances, the WWE did the right thing. As good a wrestler as he was, Chris Benoit did the unthinkable and no one, on a personal or business level, would want to associate with something that horrific. As crass as this sounds, Chris Benoit killed himself, his family, and his legacy.
I was as stunned as most everyone else with his death and the circumstances surrounding his death. At one time, I believe that he didn't do it. Maybe I was in denial, and maybe I was thinking about the damage to his brain. I was even thinking that maybe he was mentally ill and that he killed himself after realizing what he did to his family. But I have come to realize that whatever dark place he was and however the condition of his brain, there is absolutely no excuse for killing your spouse and leaving her for dead and killing your own child, who will never get to grow up as a kid experiencing puberty and eventually as a man. How could someone rob their own child of that?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2012 12:41:16 GMT -5
Yeah, when was Umaga erased? I didn't get that memo.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Feb 27, 2012 13:18:01 GMT -5
For a while, it seemed like they were going out of their way not to mention him (or show clips with him in them), and completely cut ties because of the way he died (after the Hulkamania tour), and they didn't want to be held responsible.
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Post by Error on Feb 27, 2012 13:28:55 GMT -5
Well, part of that is probably in that Austin years after retirement is still a far, far bigger star than Triple H ever was. And yeah, I agree on Test - complete missed opportunity. Here's one - at his peak, Umaga was more entertaining than Samoa Joe at his. Your point about Austin being a star actually furthers my point though. Hell, Austin refused to put HHH himself over, which is VERY ironic. Umaga is a sad case. He had the tools to be a player. His match against Cena at the Rumble is one of my top 5 favorites ever When did Austin refuse to put over Trips? Only time I can recall something even close to that was the SummerSlam where Ventura ref'ed and they only gave the win to Foley because Ventura as the governor didn't want to be seen raising a heel's hand.
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Post by Nikki Heyman on Feb 27, 2012 13:47:03 GMT -5
The Four Horsemen will be inducted into the WWE hall of fame.
Chris Benoit was, at one time, a Horseman.
That is the only way he'll ever be in anyone's HoF and I'm ok with that.
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Post by Error on Feb 27, 2012 13:52:13 GMT -5
The Four Horsemen will be inducted into the WWE hall of fame. Chris Benoit was, at one time, a Horseman. That is the only way he'll ever be in anyone's HoF and I'm ok with that. Except they are specifically inducting one version of the Horsemen, not every Horseman ever.
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Post by Nikki Heyman on Feb 27, 2012 14:01:08 GMT -5
The Four Horsemen will be inducted into the WWE hall of fame. Chris Benoit was, at one time, a Horseman. That is the only way he'll ever be in anyone's HoF and I'm ok with that. Except they are specifically inducting one version of the Horsemen, not every Horseman ever. They're having one incarnation of the Horsemen on stage for the induction, but all former Horsemen were welcome to attend.
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Post by Error on Feb 27, 2012 14:05:55 GMT -5
Except they are specifically inducting one version of the Horsemen, not every Horseman ever. They're having one incarnation of the Horsemen on stage for the induction, but all former Horsemen were welcome to attend. Never heard that and I highly doubt it. Even if true, WWE has made it clear the one getting in is the Flair, Anderson, Windham, Dillon and Tully version, not every Horseman ever.
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Post by jp49er80 on Feb 27, 2012 14:07:15 GMT -5
I irrationally dislike Chris Jericho.
I respect his ability in the ring, but nothing he's done character-wise has held my interest in any way, shape or form. I find his promos grating (in any character) and mostly root for him to lose all his feuds.
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Post by Nikki Heyman on Feb 27, 2012 14:17:54 GMT -5
They're having one incarnation of the Horsemen on stage for the induction, but all former Horsemen were welcome to attend. Never heard that and I highly doubt it. Even if true, WWE has made it clear the one getting in is the Flair, Anderson, Windham, Dillon and Tully version, not every Horseman ever. Don't remember precisely where I read it, but since it was on the internet it may or may not be true [/rajah] On topic: Dennis Miller was not TEH ABSOLUTE WORST Guest Host on Raw. WWE tried to script him and that's what ruined it. I think he would have been just fine if they gave him some "talking points" and let him run with it.
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Feb 27, 2012 14:42:03 GMT -5
I liked ICP everytime they showed up somewhere too. I became a fan of them when I saw them at Summerslam 98, and always enjoyed their work. They weren't great wrestlers but I've certainly seen worse. And by "celebrity" standards, they are wrestling gods. Seriously, how many rappers would really go out there and do moonsaults and planchas, and actually take weapons shots and table bumps. Shaggy even took a freaking powerbomb on top of a bus, then slid right off the edge and landed on his head on concrete. He didn't even stop selling to save himself. I don't care what anybody says, ICP is awesome for doing what they've done when they clearly didn't have to. And that's why, as a lifelong wrestling fan, I will always respect ICP. In fact, even in a non-wrestling capacity, I like enough of their songs to consider myself a fan.
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Post by Cam on Feb 27, 2012 15:51:32 GMT -5
Never heard that and I highly doubt it. Even if true, WWE has made it clear the one getting in is the Flair, Anderson, Windham, Dillon and Tully version, not every Horseman ever. Don't remember precisely where I read it, but since it was on the internet it may or may not be true [/rajah] Even so, they're only inducting specific members. Luger, Malenko, Benoit, Mongo, Ole, Pillman, Jarrett, Sting, Hennig etc. are not included.
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Post by norsisclouds on Feb 27, 2012 17:25:08 GMT -5
If you post that on diva dirt I swear those people will eat you alive. true they would but shes right Hey, didn't say I disagree! ;D
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Feb 27, 2012 18:46:22 GMT -5
Not sure if these are Unpopular or not but I'm going to say them anyway - I've never been a Shawn Michaels fan. - A Train is one of the most underrated Big Men to have ever been in WWE. - "Boots 2 Asses" is possibly the worse catchphrase in WWE history. - I still enjoy watching Chris Benoit matches. - Koko B Ware deserves his place in the Hall of Fame - Vince Mcmahon is one off the most entertaining WWE characters and I always look forward to a show where he apparently has an "Important Announcement". - I want Kharma to Wrestle in the mens division.
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Post by klapaucius on Feb 28, 2012 1:47:09 GMT -5
I like the theme song of Primo and Epico
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Post by ozzyismetal on Feb 28, 2012 5:51:44 GMT -5
Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels from Wrestlemania XXV was goddamn boring. Flat out boring. YES! Add Jericho vs Shawn WM 19 to that list too. And this is coming from a guy whose favourite wrestler is Shawn.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2012 6:05:54 GMT -5
Your point about Austin being a star actually furthers my point though. Hell, Austin refused to put HHH himself over, which is VERY ironic. Umaga is a sad case. He had the tools to be a player. His match against Cena at the Rumble is one of my top 5 favorites ever When did Austin refuse to put over Trips? Only time I can recall something even close to that was the SummerSlam where Ventura ref'ed and they only gave the win to Foley because Ventura as the governor didn't want to be seen raising a heel's hand. Supposedly, part of it is that Austin didn't want to drop the title directly to him. Though I think that's more why Foley was added in the first place as opposed to why Triple H didn't win.
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Post by lewis1711 on Feb 28, 2012 7:50:38 GMT -5
- Drew McIntyre does the 'sinister' gimmick far better than Randy Orton ever did. It actually influences his wrestling style, utilising the ring and trying to injure opponents, rather than just pounding the mat and pretending to be a snake occasionally. This. And I'm someone that doesn't find DM or RO very entertaining in the ring, but DMs "acting" in the ring is much, much better. I don't buy randy at all.
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