Hawk Hart
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Post by Hawk Hart on Mar 10, 2012 23:03:00 GMT -5
I'm surprised no one has mentioned this so far... It was mentioned five posts ago. I came in to say that too. It was hilarious though, I remember seeing it live and being totally confused.
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chazraps
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Post by chazraps on Mar 10, 2012 23:18:27 GMT -5
The way Lawler dwelled on Trish saying Molly Holly had a big ass apparently made her cry.
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Mar 10, 2012 23:23:13 GMT -5
Half of Greg Valentine's WWF promos in the mid-80s.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Mar 10, 2012 23:49:21 GMT -5
The way Lawler dwelled on Trish saying Molly Holly had a big ass apparently made her cry. I've never gotten either side of this argument. On one hand, you have the IWC and such saying "Molly didn't have a big butt". Yeah, she did. It wasn't ridiculously titanic but she definitely had some junk in the trunk, as the kids say. But what WWE didn't realize is that her big butt went well with her body-type and she carried it extremely well. I daresay it's one of the finer butts they've employed, in my own opinion. And as I'm not the only man in America that would prefer a healthy back bumper like Molly's to, say, Kelly Kelly's skinny little ass, how I was supposed to hate Molly over this in mind-boggling. Molly Holly had a big butt that looked great. Her being made to cry over it makes everything Michael Cole ever said to Jerry Lawler OK in my book.
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Post by wildojinx on Mar 11, 2012 0:18:08 GMT -5
MNM mocking hawk's death. There seemed to be some trend pre-PG where heels would try to get cheap heat by mocking dead wrestlers (edge, orton, MNM, etc).
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Post by Andrew is Good on Mar 11, 2012 0:40:24 GMT -5
Half of Greg Valentine's WWF promos in the mid-80s. I watched some of the ones against Junkyard Dog calling him a nasty black person. And to be honest, I didn't think it was as racist is it was just not having good insults and really needing Jimmy Hart to do most of the talking. Like, he's trying to be racist and a heel, and he's failing at it. In regards to promos, the line was the whole Eddie's in hell thing, I guess because it was so recent and the thought of capitalizing on someone's death. But, there is a bit of cognitive dissonance because the Edge/Hayes promo I thought was great. I think it was because it was something in the past, and with the Guerrero deal, it was blatant that they were trying to exploit his death to get heat. I'm a believer in promos should cut deep and be things that the people can think would genuinely hurt the person or make them angry. The deal with Molly, I watched her shoot interview and the other wrestlers would encourage her and thought it was great heat. The old story of Raven coming into Portland as Scotty the Body and Roddy Piper saying that he'll be on tv picking his nose so the fans would call him Snotty the Body. It was something instant that the fans could recognize, and hence, the whole big ass comment which seemed like a one off comment from Trish trying to make Molly angry or to hurt her so she would want to kill Trish. Molly though ended up not being ok with it, but some guys are ok with certain things and some guys aren't. A few years ago, there was an internet report that said Kurt Angle thought Chris Sabin looked like Pigpen from the Peanuts. I thought that was a huge missed opportunity, by having the crowds chant Pigpen at Chris Sabin, especially during a time when X-Divison heels really didn't get any heat. It's a call and response. The heel beats up the baby face, and the crowd try to get under the heel's skin, derailing his train of thought of helping the baby face get the comeback.
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Post by lildude8218 on Mar 11, 2012 0:53:55 GMT -5
Trish probably didn't choose her words wisely when she threw in "fried chicken eating" amongst the insults she hurled at Viscera
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Mar 11, 2012 0:56:07 GMT -5
"Eddie's down there...in hell."
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Post by froggyfrog on Mar 11, 2012 2:06:44 GMT -5
I can't believe it's taken this long to mention this.... Matt Hardy hoping Edge dies in a car accident. Even JR and King knew that was awful. yea this was just poor
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dbostick
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Post by dbostick on Mar 11, 2012 7:53:29 GMT -5
Roddy Piper saying that Mr. T had more chains than his ancestors.
Vince calling Cena his "n****" in front of Booker T.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 11, 2012 8:25:04 GMT -5
I believe Russo calling Hogan bald in his shoot against him. I love how THAT was what pissed Hogan off about the promo. I remember hearing that Savage also made jokes at Hogan's expense about his baldness on a WWF radio show and Hogan got really pissed off at him. I'll add Randy Orton' "Eddie's in Hell" line, even though it's pretty obvious that Orton wasn't very comfortable saying it and it was probably some idiot in Creative who came up with it.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 11, 2012 8:27:35 GMT -5
MNM mocking hawk's death. There seemed to be some trend pre-PG where heels would try to get cheap heat by mocking dead wrestlers (edge, orton, MNM, etc). yeah that was pretty low. much like Orton you could tell Joey Mercury didn't want to say it because he knew it'd get the wrong kind of heat, but I guess whatever Creative says goes.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Mar 11, 2012 8:29:36 GMT -5
I believe Russo calling Hogan bald in his shoot against him. I love how THAT was what pissed Hogan off about the promo. I remember hearing that Savage also made jokes at Hogan's expense about his baldness on a WWF radio show and Hogan got really pissed off at him. Well the rest of that promo was apparently a worked shoot that Hogan had planned with Russo.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2012 8:46:47 GMT -5
I can't believe it's taken this long to mention this.... Matt Hardy hoping Edge dies in a car accident. Even JR and King knew that was awful. The best part about that was JR's reaction.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2012 10:03:39 GMT -5
Memphis, 1981. Jimmy Hart offering "watermelon and women" to Kamala to take out Dirty Dutch Mantell.
Poor Lance had to deal with all these crazies down Memphis way.
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Jiren
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Post by Jiren on Mar 11, 2012 10:39:13 GMT -5
Warrior's debut promo in WCW
I honestly don't know why but it really pissed Hogan off (Every man and his Dog knew Warrior had beaten Hogan in 1990).
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Post by donny on Mar 11, 2012 11:31:50 GMT -5
Warrior's debut promo in WCW I honestly don't know why but it really pissed Hogan off (Every man and his Dog knew Warrior had beaten Hogan in 1990). The thing that I've never understood is this: When Roddy Piper debuted for WCW, he cut a promo saying that he was one of the few guys who Hogan was never able to defeat. It was generally regarded as a great promo by all involved. When Warrior debuted for WCW, he cut a promo saying that he was one of the few guys who Hogan was never able to defeat. The people involved (Hogan, Bischoff, and WWE) act as though it's one of the biggest blunders in wrestling promo history. Am I missing something here?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2012 11:42:30 GMT -5
Warrior's debut promo in WCW I honestly don't know why but it really pissed Hogan off (Every man and his Dog knew Warrior had beaten Hogan in 1990). The thing that I've never understood is this: When Roddy Piper debuted for WCW, he cut a promo saying that he was one of the few guys who Hogan was never able to defeat. It was generally regarded as a great promo by all involved. When Warrior debuted for WCW, he cut a promo saying that he was one of the few guys who Hogan was never able to defeat. The people involved (Hogan, Bischoff, and WWE) act as though it's one of the biggest blunders in wrestling promo history. Am I missing something here? Everyone must hate Warrior these days apparently and sometimes find the flimsiest reasons to back it up, even when you have a mound of real issues to hate Warrior for. Yeah...I don't get it either.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Mar 11, 2012 11:45:43 GMT -5
Warrior's debut promo in WCW I honestly don't know why but it really pissed Hogan off (Every man and his Dog knew Warrior had beaten Hogan in 1990). The thing that I've never understood is this: When Roddy Piper debuted for WCW, he cut a promo saying that he was one of the few guys who Hogan was never able to defeat. It was generally regarded as a great promo by all involved. When Warrior debuted for WCW, he cut a promo saying that he was one of the few guys who Hogan was never able to defeat. The people involved (Hogan, Bischoff, and WWE) act as though it's one of the biggest blunders in wrestling promo history. Am I missing something here? I think a big issue is that Warrior was only supposed to talk for like 8 minutes and he went 20.
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Post by SeVeN: #TheBadGuy. on Mar 11, 2012 12:51:40 GMT -5
I would think Hulk Hogan was offended when called the 'n' word. Actually, I remember saying a shoot interview with Booker saying that he went to apologise to Hogan about it and Hogan being completely cool on the subject. Didn't know that, you could tell he got into the promo. His reaction was priceless after saying it. Good to know Hogan didn't flip out and Hulkup on him
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