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Post by Arrow on Jun 2, 2012 10:36:41 GMT -5
If there's one thing I'm going to be happy about when this season ends, it's that I'll finally be able to watch all the episodes without getting left on cliffhangers that leave me desperate for more, but having to wait a week to see the next show. Another excellent episode, this time with Tarrlok officially coming out as yet another villain, though I'm happy they didn't go the predictable route and make him an ally of Amon and the Equalists.
Next week has Korra trying to make sense of her visions, which means that might finally be the episode where she gets in contact with Aang. As far as bloodbending goes, Korra also knew what it was, so it's obviously not a hidden art anymore. My guess is that the villain from her flashbacks (Yakone?) figured out a way to use bloodbending without a full moon and Tarrlok figured it out from there. Maybe they knew each other?
Hopefully, we'll find out next week.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Jun 2, 2012 10:36:56 GMT -5
Judging by his facial expression after Korra's accusation, I doubt Tarrlok's secretly an Equalist so much as he's a bueracrat who can't see the forest for the trees. He's a colossal asshole who thinks he's doing the right thing.
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Post by Red Impact on Jun 2, 2012 10:41:17 GMT -5
I'm calling shenanigans on that ending. They'd better have a damn good explanation for someone else even having heard of bloodbending, much less being able to use it whenever. Still, be very much lying if I said I'm not interested in seeing where it goes. Hama wasn't the only person who knew that blood bending existed. She imprisoned a bunch of people, and at least one person had it done to them and managed to escape. By the end of the episode, she's yelling out loud that Katara is a blood bender. It's reasonable that they told other people about their horrific ordeal, and it got spread as a taboo thing over the years, a forbidden technique that some ambitious water benders might try. She also used it on a guard in a prison, so there may have been witnesses to that to spread the story as well. And it's possible that other people had the same thoughts as Hama and managed to discover it on their own as well. It's also possible that the group told others about blood bending when relaying their adventures at some point, likely as a cautionary tale. Those things tend to happen, it's possible that they didn't keep it all a secret. Katara likely told Korra about it as a warning, since she was the Avatar and might have to deal with it. So I don't think it's that hard to believe that blood bending knowledge exists out there. There's some logical ways it could be passed on or re-discovered.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2012 10:44:54 GMT -5
Judging by his facial expression after Korra's accusation, I doubt Tarrlok's secretly an Equalist so much as he's a bueracrat who can't see the forest for the trees. He's a colossal asshole who thinks he's doing the right thing. Yeah, about what I figure. Still though, am kind of wondering at this point if Amon will be disposing of him or if Korra will do it, since honestly he's probably done more to help Amon's cause than anyone else.
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Post by Red Impact on Jun 2, 2012 11:43:46 GMT -5
Judging by his facial expression after Korra's accusation, I doubt Tarrlok's secretly an Equalist so much as he's a bueracrat who can't see the forest for the trees. He's a colossal asshole who thinks he's doing the right thing. Yeah, that's the vibe I got. He's so eager to stop the equalists and cement his legacy that he's becoming everything Amon warned people about.
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Post by darbus alan on Jun 2, 2012 11:49:42 GMT -5
I can see Amon taking away his bending with an Equalist attack on the non-bender prisons. He'd cement himself as a hero among non-benders by taking out the evil water bending councilor oppressing them; someone not even the Avatar could stop.
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Post by horsemen4ever on Jun 2, 2012 13:53:28 GMT -5
I am starting to think Amon and Tarrlok are connected someone, and maybe related. Two theories.
1)Amon lied about his backstory, in reality he and Tarrlok were brother, and because Tarrlok was a bender, their father favored Tarrlok.
2) Amon and Tarrlok are twin brothers, who set this whole war as a way for the two of them to gain power. Pretty much everyone, the council, the task force, the Equalists, they were all being used by these two as part of a plan to gain power.
I am hoping those two aren't working together, I like the idea of a three way war between the Equalists, the Task force, and the good guys. A war when each side has their own justifications, and their own evilness at the top. Much better than the simple Fire Nation evil, everyone else good mentality of the original series.
I like a more complex war like in Gundam.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jun 2, 2012 16:22:27 GMT -5
Well......this episode answered my question from earlier in the season of if bloodbending was passed down to a new generation......
I'm going to guess Tarlok is a descendant/pupil of that guy on trial in Aang's flashback, just cause of both of them being able to do bloodbending without the full moon.
So now we have two villains for this season. Which one will fall first/which one will end up being the true villain?
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Post by horsemen4ever on Jun 2, 2012 17:16:15 GMT -5
So now we have two villains for this season. Which one will fall first/which one will end up being the true villain? Who says they both can't fall at the same time. Maybe they are working together. Maybe they are twin brothers, or maybe they are one in the same. Every read Fairy Tail, check out a character like Jellal and his so called twin brother.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 2, 2012 17:18:11 GMT -5
I'm amazed by this show,each episode amazes me so much,the quality doesnt fall ,it's incredible,and it hooks you.To think i was afraid that it would be a quick-half assed cartoon made to ride the first avatar coatails
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Post by Red Impact on Jun 2, 2012 18:56:32 GMT -5
I hope they're not twins or working together. It'd cheapen the story IMO.
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Post by jagilki on Jun 2, 2012 18:57:10 GMT -5
Korra is Amon.
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Post by blackmegaman on Jun 2, 2012 19:44:50 GMT -5
Swerve..... Vince was Amon the whole time while Leading Korra on.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2012 23:19:02 GMT -5
Swerve..... Vince was Amon the whole time while Leading Korra on. Aw, son of a polar bear-dog in heat!
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Post by dashingdro on Jun 3, 2012 0:36:05 GMT -5
I loved the new episode . I wonder what's going on with this whole blood bending without the full moon thing. I never understood why blood bending could only happen in the full moon anyways since Earth Benders can bend metal whenever they feel like it with no restrictions. Same with Fire benders and their lightning.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jun 3, 2012 2:34:51 GMT -5
I loved the new episode . I wonder what's going on with this whole blood bending without the full moon thing. I never understood why blood bending could only happen in the full moon anyways since Earth Benders can bend metal whenever they feel like it with no restrictions. Same with Fire benders and their lightning. Waterbenders are at their strongest during the full moon. Hell just it being night increases their strength. Remember the moon was the original waterbender. One thing that I found interesting was it appears Korra doesn't know that the highly skilled waterbenders(and Tarlok is very obviously one, even before they revealed his bloodbending skills he was pulling off some serious waterbending moves at the beginning of their fight) could bend water out of thin air. I guess Katara didn't teach her that. I mean it was odd when Korra told Tarlok he was out of water, even though they were technically still very much surrounded by it.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jun 3, 2012 19:35:29 GMT -5
Read a very interesting fan theory about the visions Korra has seen...kind of upset I did, it seemed pretty logical and I'd rather just have the whole thing surprise me. Still, it was a fan theory, doesn't mean anything yet.
Next episode figures to be the one where we either see the visions put in order, or where Korra finally, in some way, makes contact with Aang. We shall see.
By the way, thing I loved in this episode? They spend the whole first act of the episode playing up fans' feelings of "aw, why isn't Korra tight with her friends the way Aang was with his?", hype up a new "Team Avatar", show them kick a little butt...and then promptly dissolve the team. The guys are making a point: Korra isn't Aang, and this show isn't The Last Airbender series. Take any and all expectations and throw them out of the window.
Also, Tenzin's family still rules.
As for Tarlok's master plan: his reaction to being told he was "just like Amon" shows that they're certainly not on the same team. A lot of fans are looking at it as Amon being Stalin to Tarlok's Hitler...ok, that's extreme, but two guys with real cults of personality representing two political/social extremes, which of course means they wind up being very similar.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Jun 4, 2012 19:48:34 GMT -5
As for Tarlok's master plan: his reaction to being told he was "just like Amon" shows that they're certainly not on the same team. A lot of fans are looking at it as Amon being Stalin to Tarlok's Hitler...ok, that's extreme, but two guys with real cults of personality representing two political/social extremes, which of course means they wind up being very similar. Just want to ask: has there ever been a scene with Tarlok and Amon in the same space? I don't think so, off the top of my head, but I could be wrong. I ask because I'm starting to wonder if 'Tarlok=Amon' might be true. Maybe Tarlok reacted the way he did in the last episode because of how Amon is being characterized in the media. Amon thinks he's actually trying to do some good, no? But wouldn't working against non-benders in the episode as Tarlok run counter to his goals as Amon? Maybe. So, perhaps the theory only holds if Tarlok has dissociative identity disorder, not unlike Two-Face from the Batman mythos, whereby one side ('Tarlok') doesn't know what the other side is doing ('Amon'). Which leads me to my crazy theory: Anti-Avatar. Tarlok/Amon is an anti-Avatar, the balance to Korra's avatar-being. Korra herself, like Aang before her, was the agent to bring balance to the world, ripped apart because of war. But in "Avatar: the Last Airbender" imbalance came from the differences between nations (earth, fire, air, and water), whereas in "The Legend of Korra" war comes about because of the rift between benders and non-benders. The series so far has taken great pains to show that Korra is a very strong bender who mastered the elements quite quickly (unlike her predecessor, Aang), but her spiritual side is lacking. What will be the thing that puts her over the edge into the full blown Avatar state? Tarlok/Amon, who already has capabilities that haven't been explained (yet): bloodbending and energy-bending (unless the latter is a chi-blocking technique, but let's assume for now it's not). That's the real threat of the anti-Avatar, being able to have bending powers that the Avatar, Korra, does not. In this sense, Tarlok/Amon is the dark reflection of Korra, the other side of the coin, an 'anti-Avatar', inasmuch as Ozai was the other side of the coin for Aang. But while the differences between Ozai and Aang were quite stark, there's a greater 'need' for Korra to have her Tarlok/Amon since the imbalance is not between nations, between the elements, but the very difference between those who cannot defend themselves (without technology), non-benders, and those who abuse those powers, the benders. The Tarlok/Amon split represents both sides of the issue, but is still only one side of the equation. The very thing Korra needs to be the Avatar that Republic City and the world requires. TL; DR: Tarlok is Amon, but doesn't realize he's Amon. Think Two-Face from Batman.
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Post by Red Impact on Jun 4, 2012 19:55:07 GMT -5
I still think it'd be a bad plot twist to have them be the same person, regardless of how they did it. I prefer having two opposing forces that are just as bad. Makes it more exciting to see how Korra would finally deal with the situation as opposed to her just having to take down one person to make it all better.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jun 4, 2012 19:57:46 GMT -5
I still think it'd be a bad plot twist to have them be the same person, regardless of how they did it. I prefer having two opposing forces that are just as bad. Makes it more exciting to see how Korra would finally deal with the situation as opposed to her just having to take down one person to make it all better. Plus it is just more realistic to have it simply be multiple forces.
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