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Post by Mozenrath on May 12, 2012 23:55:24 GMT -5
He did say that them going through with the tournament was playing into his hands, though, so if they called it off, it'd be a wasted opportunity to him. I personally think that what happened was that Amon knew of cheating beforehand and capitalized, or it's possible that he intimidated their benefactors into stepping aside for his machinations. That's what I think. He knew that they had a history of cheating, and the allure of beating the avatar would drive them to do it again. Knowing that, the tournament would play right into his hands as long as they did what he expected. The only question that raises is why call in the threat to begin with if that was always the plan. I think him calling it in would get more people watching, or at least give his men the opportunity to knock out the police to show that they were powerless to stop him, thus undermining the value of bending further. Indeed. If he did not call in the threat, then he couldn't flex his might nearly as much. It'd be a big incident, but not as crushing a blow as doing it this way was.
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Post by Dub H on May 12, 2012 23:58:36 GMT -5
Another thing, why were the Fire Ferrets underdogs? They have the Avatar on the team, shouldn't any team that has the Avatar be favored. The Avatar is suppose to be the most powerful bender in the world. because they were Rookies the avatar had just joined Pro-Bending,no experience whatever.And the group overral were newcomers And newcomers vs 3 times champions ,the newcomers will be the underdogs
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Post by Red Impact on May 12, 2012 23:59:56 GMT -5
Another thing, why were the Fire Ferrets underdogs? They have the Avatar on the team, shouldn't any team that has the Avatar be favored. The Avatar is suppose to be the most powerful bender in the world. A few reasons. Korra is a rookie to the game still. She doesn't have the experience that any of the other players have, and the ferrets were going against the best team of the past 3 years. Secondly, she's confined to 1 element, one of the major reasons why the Avatar is so strong is a mastery of all the elements, and Korra has to use water bending only. And on that end, Korra's not exactly a full master yet. She's likely not the most powerful bender out there in any one element yet.
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Post by horsemen4ever on May 13, 2012 0:09:45 GMT -5
Another thing, why were the Fire Ferrets underdogs? They have the Avatar on the team, shouldn't any team that has the Avatar be favored. The Avatar is suppose to be the most powerful bender in the world. A few reasons. Korra is a rookie to the game still. She doesn't have the experience that any of the other players have, and the ferrets were going against the best team of the past 3 years. Secondly, she's confined to 1 element, one of the major reasons why the Avatar is so strong is a mastery of all the elements, and Korra has to use water bending only. And on that end, Korra's not exactly a full master yet. She's likely not the most powerful bender out there in any one element yet. Yeah I see. But Korra natural element is water, so it should be easier for her to waterbend than to do any other bending. Just like Airbending was easiest for Aang.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 13, 2012 0:15:07 GMT -5
A few reasons. Korra is a rookie to the game still. She doesn't have the experience that any of the other players have, and the ferrets were going against the best team of the past 3 years. Secondly, she's confined to 1 element, one of the major reasons why the Avatar is so strong is a mastery of all the elements, and Korra has to use water bending only. And on that end, Korra's not exactly a full master yet. She's likely not the most powerful bender out there in any one element yet. Yeah I see. But Korra natural element is water, so it should be easier for her to waterbend than to do any other bending. Just like Airbending was easiest for Aang. True, but she has to actively remember the rules, still. Keep in mind how her first match went. They almost got creamed. So she is still a novice to keeping within the rules.
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Post by Red Impact on May 13, 2012 0:19:47 GMT -5
Yes, but even then, she's still young and she's still a rookie. Even if she is a natural water bender, she's still going to be at a disadvantage against other benders who know the game.
Also, she's still new to the whole "other benders are trying to really hurt me" thing that she's in now. She's been in martial arts training, but that's not the same thing as she's doing now.
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Post by Rolent Tex on May 13, 2012 2:51:03 GMT -5
A theory thrown out there on the Korra message boards that my wife showed me that was interesting. I'll spoiler it JUST in case... {Spoiler}Amon's method of energybending is different than Aang's and the Lionturtles. When Aang takes away Ozai's bending and the Lionturtle teaches Aang energybending, they both touch two points on the body...the yin tang and ru zhong point. When Amon takes away the LBZ's bending, he only touches one point...the yin tang.
The theory the poster has is that Amon is faking it and making people believe he's taking away their bending and really just blocking a chakra. That chakra involves calming the spirit. They mention Uncle teaching Zuko about bending and how it involves a certain amount of inner calm. Close that chakra, lock all the anxiety in someone causing them to not be able to be calm...bye bye bending. The more terrified one is, the more permanent it can be...and Amon is one terrifying man.
I think they may be onto something.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2012 3:28:11 GMT -5
Actually, it seem to anyone else like Korra seems to favor fire over water? Fire is probably the most convenient of them anyway but still, it tends to be her go-to when she needs to fight.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 13, 2012 4:16:47 GMT -5
Actually, it seem to anyone else like Korra seems to favor fire over water? Fire is probably the most convenient of them anyway but still, it tends to be her go-to when she needs to fight. Mostly for the reason you mentioned. She uses Earthbending a lot when on solid ground, and Water when steampipes are around. It's about convenience.
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Post by Stone Cold Eleanor Shellstrop on May 13, 2012 17:14:13 GMT -5
To add, I think that fire is the most offensive of the elements, as established with the first series. Which is not to say that you can't attack with water, earth, or air, but those elements had a decent mix of defense/offense. Fire wasn't used that often defensively, unless it was two fire-benders fighting, and even then, that's kind of stretching it (Iroh and Jeong Jeong I think would fit here, but certainly not Azula or Ozai).
And also the practical reason, say the episode that aired yesterday, of not having an element nearby to use (water, earth) when Korra was fighting on top of the arena, whereas she can conjure fire easily, so why not use that offensively as a default?
Question: is anyone enjoying the more mature take of the story with "Korra"? I genuinely find Amon to be scary, something I never felt with Ozai. I like that the show plays to kids with certain jokes without condescending to the older audiences who watch, but that the story isn't so complex that kids can't follow either. I don't think of "Korra" (or "The Last Airbender" for that matter) as a *kids* show, strictly speaking. Agree or disagree?
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Post by Mozenrath on May 13, 2012 17:28:29 GMT -5
To add, I think that fire is the most offensive of the elements, as established with the first series. Which is not to say that you can't attack with water, earth, or air, but those elements had a decent mix of defense/offense. Fire wasn't used that often defensively, unless it was two fire-benders fighting, and even then, that's kind of stretching it (Iroh and Jeong Jeong I think would fit here, but certainly not Azula or Ozai). And also the practical reason, say the episode that aired yesterday, of not having an element nearby to use (water, earth) when Korra was fighting on top of the arena, whereas she can conjure fire easily, so why not use that offensively as a default? Question: is anyone enjoying the more mature take of the story with "Korra"? I genuinely find Amon to be scary, something I never felt with Ozai. I like that the show plays to kids with certain jokes without condescending to the older audiences who watch, but that the story isn't so complex that kids can't follow either. I don't think of "Korra" (or "The Last Airbender" for that matter) as a *kids* show, strictly speaking. Agree or disagree? They do keep the humor going, but Amon is definitely pretty intimidating. I think Ozai and Azula were perfectly capable of being scary, but not being able to see Amon's face is a big part of his menace.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on May 13, 2012 19:30:24 GMT -5
That, and Steven Blum's effective voice acting.
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Post by RKTaker on May 13, 2012 19:36:04 GMT -5
To add, I think that fire is the most offensive of the elements, as established with the first series. Which is not to say that you can't attack with water, earth, or air, but those elements had a decent mix of defense/offense. Fire wasn't used that often defensively, unless it was two fire-benders fighting, and even then, that's kind of stretching it (Iroh and Jeong Jeong I think would fit here, but certainly not Azula or Ozai). And also the practical reason, say the episode that aired yesterday, of not having an element nearby to use (water, earth) when Korra was fighting on top of the arena, whereas she can conjure fire easily, so why not use that offensively as a default? Question: is anyone enjoying the more mature take of the story with "Korra"? I genuinely find Amon to be scary, something I never felt with Ozai. I like that the show plays to kids with certain jokes without condescending to the older audiences who watch, but that the story isn't so complex that kids can't follow either. I don't think of "Korra" (or "The Last Airbender" for that matter) as a *kids* show, strictly speaking. Agree or disagree? They do keep the humor going, but Amon is definitely pretty intimidating. I think Ozai and Azula were perfectly capable of being scary, but not being able to see Amon's face is a big part of his menace. and him being able to take bending away
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Post by HMARK Center on May 13, 2012 23:25:31 GMT -5
A theory thrown out there on the Korra message boards that my wife showed me that was interesting. I'll spoiler it JUST in case... {Spoiler}Amon's method of energybending is different than Aang's and the Lionturtles. When Aang takes away Ozai's bending and the Lionturtle teaches Aang energybending, they both touch two points on the body...the yin tang and ru zhong point. When Amon takes away the LBZ's bending, he only touches one point...the yin tang.
The theory the poster has is that Amon is faking it and making people believe he's taking away their bending and really just blocking a chakra. That chakra involves calming the spirit. They mention Uncle teaching Zuko about bending and how it involves a certain amount of inner calm. Close that chakra, lock all the anxiety in someone causing them to not be able to be calm...bye bye bending. The more terrified one is, the more permanent it can be...and Amon is one terrifying man.
I think they may be onto something. Wouldn't shock me. Part of what I see in the Korra universe is that the spiritual side of bending, at least in some circles, seems to be taking a hit. You've got firebenders being hired to use lightning, one of the most pure forms of firebending...to power an energy plant. Tenzin is attempting to reintroduce Air Nomad culture, which is highly spiritual, but technology marches on, a lot of people have turned to using bending to commit crimes, and perhaps "pure" bending has been devalued. End result? Something like you're mentioning, because the benders involved aren't spiritually, and by extension mentally/character-wise, strong enough. While I know Amon doesn't want to make Korra a "rallying sign" for all benders, I'm definitely thinking that he's banking on Korra entering the Avatar State at some point...and that's when he'll attempt to kill her, thus breaking the Avatar cycle. I'm sure Amon and most of the world knows how Azula managed to basically kill Aang at Ba Sing Se, so he figures it can be done. By the by, Tenzin was awesome in this episode. Loved "why didn't she have her arrested or somethign?" "...Oh, she tried." Anyone have any stills from the flashback images Korra saw? Definitely saw Toph, saw the guy from last time who seemed to be the focus of whatever drama was enveloping the Gaang, and saw Aang once again looking to be grimly "taking care of a problem". Confident this ties into Amon and the Equalist movement in some way or another, but I'm getting more and more antsy to know how.
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Post by horsemen4ever on May 16, 2012 15:34:49 GMT -5
Clip from episode 7. Looks like we have another possible ship. This one I might actully like. This guy reminds or typical manga / anime rivals that are in the series long term. First arc they are complete duchbag, sometimes cases evil, than from arc to arc they become less duche and more likeable. Forget Mako, Tahno is the true Zuko of the show. www.nick.com/videos/clip/legend-of-korra-107-a-fallen-pro-bender-clip.html
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Post by horsemen4ever on May 17, 2012 13:56:13 GMT -5
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Post by HMARK Center on May 17, 2012 13:57:27 GMT -5
I'm trying not to watch any clips before the episodes air. Curse you all, foul tempters.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 17, 2012 14:09:26 GMT -5
I'm trying not to watch any clips before the episodes air. Curse you all, foul tempters. Indeedy. It's nice the option is there, but I try to go into every episode fresh.
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Post by HMARK Center on May 17, 2012 14:13:24 GMT -5
Yeah, I was initially very upset that people were spoiling Aang's adult design before the episode aired where Korra saw his memories (or whatever they are). People just randomly writing things like "I don't think I could get used to Aang having a beard", while I'm sitting there going "Wait, what?". ...Then the episode actually aired, Aang appeared, and I was all ![](http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t307/jmn327/stressed_scrooge.gif)
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Post by Mozenrath on May 17, 2012 14:19:58 GMT -5
Yeah, I was initially very upset that people were spoiling Aang's adult design before the episode aired where Korra saw his memories (or whatever they are). People just randomly writing things like "I don't think I could get used to Aang having a beard", while I'm sitting there going "Wait, what?". ...Then the episode actually aired, Aang appeared, and I was all ![](http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t307/jmn327/stressed_scrooge.gif) Adult Sokka was weirder to me, but I guess perhaps it shouldn't be, given it was a foregone conclusion he'd look a lot like his father.
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