Times where titles should/shouldn't have changed

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What are some of the times where you've disagreed with a title being kept by a wrestler or you've disagreed with a title changing hands? Here's some of mine

- Straight out I know people will mention Christian vs Orton. I missed it on SD when it happened but I saw the video and even if I'm a fan of both I felt the pain in that. Good news is that Christian went heel and had a great feud with him though.

- Booker T should have won against Triple H at WMXIX. I don't care, he should have won then and I'm really not surprised these days considering that was during Hunter's Reign of Terror but given everything that happened and how over Booker was it would have seemed right but hey this is Vince and Triple H. It happens.

- Rey Mysterio/Cena/Punk's return, just that whole thing was weird. Punk returning is ok but I'm pissed that Rey won the title and then he had to go out and defend it that same night against a Cena. Let alone the fact Rey looked like a bitch. Was management pissed at Mysterio then too? I don't know but I disagree with that.

- Cena's win over Edge at the Royal Rumble. Just annoying. No comment on this one.

- Kane losing to Austin literally a day later after he won the belt. They should have at least extended that to the next ppv.

- Khali gaining the belt at all. I get a feeling they only gave the belt to him so they can say he was champion everytime he walks out but that's just me.

- Beth Phoenix should have gotten the belt from Kelly Kelly earlier than when she did. By her last ppv defense everyone was booing K2.

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Batista and Rey Mysterio winning the Tag Team titles, I know it made sense for the Raw vs Smackdown storyline at the time, however it lead to a pointless tag team match between MNM and The Mexicools at Armageddon that year.

Goldberg should have won the World Heavyweight Title at Summerslam 2003 in the Elimination Chamber.

The Rock should have won at Wrestlemania 16, although it did lead to one of the best PPV finishes of all time.

[juvijuiceisloose]

The biggest title change I can think of that shouldn't have happened was Hulk Hogan beating Yokozuna for the WWF Title at Wrestlemania IX.

They should've just had Yoko beat Bret with Fuji's help like they did and have him be the champion until the next year when Bret would beat him for the Title.

I also think they probably should've changed the whole Bret dropping the belt to Bob Backlund and then him losing to Diesel in 8 seconds at MSG.

There's no way in hell Diesel should've been champion for a year.

I think maybe Bret should've dropped the title to Owen and then go from there.

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Why did they make Bret drop to Backlund only for him to lose in 8 seconds on an untelevised event?

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Ziggler been given the belt and then losing to Edge 12 minutes later.

He shouldn't have been handed the belt in the first place if they didn't trust him to have a run with it.

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I'm surprised this hasn't been said yet, but Jericho's "win" over Triple H in 2000 and it being reversed.
It shouldn't have been reversed.

Back in 2003, with the SummerSlam Elimination Chamber, I was actually rooting for Jericho to win.
I recall being disappointed with the finish even back then.

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When HHH's WHC was held up in a triple threat match with Edge and Benoit, only for HHH to win it again even though he never actually lost it, adding another pointless number to his total.

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I remember being pissed that Del Rio didn't beat Edge at 'Mania 27. Obviously in hindsight it was nice for Edge to be able to retire as champion, but ADR should've won. Maybe he would've won at Extreme Rules I suppose had the feud carried on.

Also Batista beating Orton in a cage match only to go out with an injury immediately afterwards seemed dumb.

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May 3, 2012 5:46:51 GMT -5 Metalheadbanger Man said:

I remember being pissed that Del Rio didn't beat Edge at 'Mania 27. Obviously in hindsight it was nice for Edge to be able to retire as champion, but ADR should've won. Maybe he would've won at Extreme Rules I suppose had the feud carried on.

I'd disagree on this one - at the time it felt wrong but since then it's become apparant that Del Rio absolutely sucks and shouldn't be anywhere near the main titles IMO.

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Cena beating Mysterio the same night he won the title. I don't care what excuses some people give Cena, that was a major dick move.

Cena trading the belt ADR after SummerSlam. What. The. f***.

Seriously, there were some really stupid booking decisions last year.

May 3, 2012 5:39:20 GMT -5 BHB said:

When HHH's WHC was held up in a triple threat match with Edge and Benoit, only for HHH to win it again even though he never actually lost it, adding another pointless number to his total.

Oh and THIS f***ing thing. There has never ever been a title win was so obviously a tally booster. Even sadder considering how little title count wins mean right now.

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May 3, 2012 5:46:51 GMT -5 Metalheadbanger Man said:

I remember being pissed that Del Rio didn't beat Edge at 'Mania 27. Obviously in hindsight it was nice for Edge to be able to retire as champion, but ADR should've won. Maybe he would've won at Extreme Rules I suppose had the feud carried on.

Also Batista beating Orton in a cage match only to go out with an injury immediately afterwards seemed dumb.

Well Edge has said in interviews that the plan was for him to lose the title to Del Rio at Extreme Rules, take time off to heal his neck, and then come back and do a final feud with Christian before he retired at WM 28.

And yes, that Batista title change was extremely pointless. If he was injured, why put the title on him? All it does is waste time and makes Orton look weak. 2009 was a really frustrating year when it came to the booking situation.

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I agree with everything that's been said here. A lot of dumb booking decisions made last year a lone. But when I stop and think that the belt is a prop to carry on a story and that in real life fighting title reigns only last forever if you're name is GSP or Silva so a quick title change doesn't bother me as much.

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Yea I have no problem with a lot of title changes.

Look at the UFC heavyweight division, there's been a handful changes all recently.

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What was it No Mercy 09 where HHH and Orton exchanged the title. Orton was given the belt. HHH wins it. HHH then faces Umaga. Orton faces him again and takes it back. I was like. What was the point. I know this happened but the PPV maybe wrong.

I agree with the above ones as well. The whole Batista winning when they knew he was hurt was one of those WHY?

My memory is fuzy right now. But what about the Triple threat match late 04 where it ended in a draw and they vacated the World belt. For only the next PPV HHH the last champion to only get it back. What was the point outside adding a number to HHH is title runs.

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May 3, 2012 6:36:09 GMT -5 Starshine said:

Cena beating Mysterio the same night he won the title. I don't care what excuses some people give Cena, that was a major dick move.

There's a flashing neon sign they were more worried about TV ratings than PPV buyrates.

Cena vs. Mysterio at SummerSlam would have drawn. But this was screwed up by CM Punk coming back too soon after "leaving the company with the title".

Bleh, talk about premature ejaculation.

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That Cena title win over Del Rio just to boost the number up to 10 WWE championships.

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May 3, 2012 5:39:20 GMT -5 BHB said:

When HHH's WHC was held up in a triple threat match with Edge and Benoit, only for HHH to win it again even though he never actually lost it, adding another pointless number to his total.

May 3, 2012 8:15:41 GMT -5 Can you afford to pay me, Gah said:

My memory is fuzy right now. But what about the Triple threat match late 04 where it ended in a draw and they vacated the World belt. For only the next PPV HHH the last champion to only get it back. What was the point outside adding a number to HHH is title runs.

Triple H beat Randy Orton for the World Heavyweight Championship at Unforgiven, the belt was then vacated on an episode of Raw after Benoit and Edge pinned/submitted each other in a Triple Threat match for the title, and that lead to the announcement of the Elimination Chamber match.

I think the point of vacating the title was just for them to build to that match at New Year's Revolution, the ending of which (Triple H getting the belt back via Batista interference) would lead to the HHH-Orton match at that year's Royal Rumble. There were a few storylines going into that match - Benoit and Edge both having a claim to the title, the aforementioned HHH vs. Orton, the beginning of Batista's first world title push, HBK (the special referee) vs. Edge (who'd cost him the World title at Taboo Tuesday), etc. - and the story for that worked better with a vacated belt. But Triple H was always meant to get the title back so that he and Randy could have the final blowoff to their feud later on. At least, that's just my take.

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Ted Dibiase shoud not have been stripped of the title in '88- Should have been Hogan trying to gain the title back at Wrestlemania.

Lex Luger should have won the belt off Yokozuna at Summerslam '93. Im not even a Luger fan but the whole buildup and hype to that event was pointless in the end.

Vince beating Triple H in '99 for the title shouldnt have happened - Would have had HHH hold it until Mania 16 where Rock picks up the win.

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This:


shouldn't have become this:



Yeah, I know that's a little different than the thread subject, but still. ^_-

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I don't understand Edge winning the IC Championship at a house show from Jarrett only to lose it the next night, back to Jarrett.