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Post by I hate TNA on Sept 4, 2011 20:59:50 GMT -5
Let's use the "family diner" case another time. The legal limit says two glasses, but we all know you won't be drunk if you take three glasses (i'm not saying 3.5, I'm not saying 4). Then, even if you shouldn't because it's illegal, it won't make any difference if you take the wheel with three glasses instead of the legal two. Now if after taking those three glasses you take the wheel to drive back to your house, you won't have any problems driving in all safety just like as if you took the two limit glasses. Should you have? No because it's illegal. Does it make you a public danger? Not either. Back to Kurt. Judging by his track record he probably had more than three glasses, the thing is: I don't know. That doesn't forbid me to blame him, because he shouldn't have had, but I won't insult him because it may have been a case of him having just three glasses. That's my whole point. Don't insult the guy when you don't know everything. Blame him, but don't insult or say he feels like he can do whatever the hell he wants to/doesn't care for others drivers. For what it's worth, everyone breaks the law on a daily basis without even knowing it. This. It wasn't on the TMZ report at the time I first saw it. Now I can say Kurt is a f***ing moron. That's not what I said nor think. To me it's no big deal if you're above the legal limit but only if at the same time it doesn't make any difference as if you were under the limit, wich is a slight margin. Alright, now that everything has been clarified I can go to sleep (yeah, it's already 4:00am in France). G'night everyone. This is why 17 year olds aren't legally allowed to purchase alcohol....even in France. There's a reason if I don't drink. And trust me this is not because I don't like alcohol... Or because I can't buy it (I would be able on October 5, that doesn't mean I'm going to). And one last time. To me it's no big deal if you can drive as if you were under the limit, wich is a VERY SLIGHT margin that you can exceed. Now I'm really going to bed, in hopes that I haven't been misunderstood. |
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Post by Richard on Sept 4, 2011 21:01:59 GMT -5
To get a DUI, you do not have to just be over the legal limit. If you did something to get impaired and drive, you can get a DUI. You're BAC doesn't matter. If you had two drink and are swerving, you're legally DUI. Same reason Matt Hardy got a DUI, he took an impairing substance and drove.
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Post by The Peoples Elbow on Sept 4, 2011 21:02:27 GMT -5
Damn it, Kurt! :/
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Post by Kash Flagg on Sept 4, 2011 21:04:04 GMT -5
Angle was hacked...it was Eric Angle driving.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2011 21:05:08 GMT -5
To get a DUI, you do not have to just be over the legal limit. If you did something to get impaired and drive, you can get a DUI. You're BAC doesn't matter. If you had two drink and are swerving, you're legally DUI. Same reason Matt Hardy got a DUI, he took an impairing substance and drove. Exactly. If you take one drink and get behind a wheel two hours later, you are driving under the influence by law. If you take prescription medication that causes side effects, then you could be driving under the influence. Again, it can happen to anyone. And if it happens to someone here, I hope they understand how unfair it can be (unless you are legit drunk, then it is just irresponsible). |
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Post by Mr. Backlund on Sept 4, 2011 21:07:02 GMT -5
Yea, screw the police!
Not the guy with a history of substance abuse and erratic behavior who was seen swerving and having difficulty driving his vehicle, who earlier in the year was hit with a DUI.....
Seriously, why even justify it or play games with defining what "really drunk" means? I like watching him perform, but I'm not going to march on Washington if my favorite actor gets arrested for something. Unless your last name is Angle, I don't see why anyone is getting protective over this guy - he clearly has a problem.
Playing this BS game of ignoring reality is likely why he'll have a posthumous DVD release from the 'E in a few years.
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Post by Krimzon on Sept 4, 2011 21:07:08 GMT -5
For what it's worth, everyone breaks the law on a daily basis without even knowing it. Hence why I said knowingly. If you knowingly break the law, you deserve whatever people say about you. |
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Post by anonymousdonor on Sept 4, 2011 21:08:38 GMT -5
Yes, I'm sure Angle has just been the victim of unfair circumstances on three separate occasions.
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Post by Richard on Sept 4, 2011 21:11:21 GMT -5
I think people are misunderstanding me, I am not saying it is unfair what happen to Kurt, far from it. I was trying to spell out for some that DUI doesn't mean "He just happened to have a few and drove", I was saying he had to have been impaired and drove for this to happen.
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Post by gnr123 on Sept 4, 2011 21:11:48 GMT -5
Really Kurt Angle? In a D.U.I.? Again?
So, now what, will TNA get rid of him? Do they realize that this guy is ruining their company, and making wrestling look stupid. He's a mess, and he's completely insane. Also, add to the fact that he's TNA Champion, so I wonder how long he'll keep it? Seriously, if TNA was a logical, sane company, who make motherf***in' sense, I would get rid of him. I mean, it's his second D.U.I. in what, 6 months? The guy couldn't care less about the health of not only fellow people, but his own health and well-being. When is TNA going to realize that Kurt has f***in' lost his mind, and is completely out of touch with anything remotely sane and tolerable.
They got rid of Matt Hardy because of a D.W.I. why not get rid of Angle too? And how about Jeff while their at it? Their all liability's that bring nothing but negative press and intolerance to themselves in the God-forsaken company that has no drug testing, and allows performers to wrestle intoxicated. I wonder when Spike TV and Panda Energy are going to step in and do something about this? It's just no good press or help to wrestling at all what this company is allowing wrestlers to do. Sure, it's not TNA's fault he was driving drunk, but it's their fault that the press and negative shit is getting thrown at them, especially after Jeff Hardy's Victory Road debacle. Common sense, get rid of him, or "them" is you want to add Jeff Hardy as well. Add this to how badly the wrestlers are treated, how bad the pay is, and how low-life the people that run the company, I can't see it being around much longer.
And this was the guy that was going to do into the Olympic's? He's not going anywhere but one a shooting rampage (or a mental hospital) if he keeps up how his life is going, which is down.
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Post by kidglov3s on Sept 4, 2011 21:12:38 GMT -5
Drinking and then choosing to operate a vehicle is not something that just randomly happens to you. It's a decision you make, one that comes with the disregard for your safety and the safety of others.
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Post by gnr123 on Sept 4, 2011 21:12:46 GMT -5
It seems like the wrestling business likes to wait until tragedy occurs before things like this are taken seriously. No, just in TNA. |
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Sept 4, 2011 21:17:01 GMT -5
Welp, congratulations, dumbass. You got arrested, again, and, knowing TNA, aren't gonna suffer any negative repercussions of your stupidity....again.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2011 21:18:23 GMT -5
I think people are misunderstanding me, I am not saying it is unfair what happen to Kurt, far from it. I was trying to spell out for some that DUI doesn't mean "He just happened to have a few and drove", I was saying he had to have been impaired and drove for this to happen. That's not true though. As I mentioned above, my friend got a DUI after one beer. She was informed that you don't need a BAC of .08 (or whatever the limit is) to be considered under the influence, nor do you need to be "impaired" in an outwardly fashion. If you admit to having a drink when a cop pulls you cover, then you are driving under the influence whether you are driving in a straight line or swerving all over the place. It is really up to the police officer who pulls you over. I have even heard of a case where someone got a DUI while not even driving (he owned the car but his drunk friend was driving so the owner of the car got a DUI without even being behind the wheel). Seriously, people need to realize that not everyone who gets a DUI is an idiot. Is Angle? Yes, becasue he is a repeat offender and has a history of drug problems. But the act of getting a DUI itself is so dependent on the police officer that painting everyone with the same brush is naive and stupid. My friend is a elementary school teacher who almost lost her job for one drink. You can't put her (or anyone similar to her) and Kurt Angle in the same sentence. |
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Post by Celgress on Sept 4, 2011 21:21:02 GMT -5
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Post by Richard on Sept 4, 2011 21:22:36 GMT -5
I think people are misunderstanding me, I am not saying it is unfair what happen to Kurt, far from it. I was trying to spell out for some that DUI doesn't mean "He just happened to have a few and drove", I was saying he had to have been impaired and drove for this to happen. That's not true though. As I mentioned above, my friend got a DUI after one beer. She was informed that you don't need a BAC of .08 (or whatever the limit is) to be considered under the influence, nor do you need to be "impaired" in an outwardly fashion. If you admit to having a drink when a cop pulls you cover, you have driving under the influence whether you are driving in a straight line or swerving all over the place. It is really up to the police officer who pulls you over. I have even heard of a case where someone got a DUI while not even driving (he owned the car but his drunk friend was driving so the owner of the car got a DUI without even being behind the wheel). Than your friend was screwed because that is not the law. The law is impaired or over a certain limit. That is why we have so many tests we run. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 4, 2011 21:23:40 GMT -5
That's not true though. As I mentioned above, my friend got a DUI after one beer. She was informed that you don't need a BAC of .08 (or whatever the limit is) to be considered under the influence, nor do you need to be "impaired" in an outwardly fashion. If you admit to having a drink when a cop pulls you cover, you have driving under the influence whether you are driving in a straight line or swerving all over the place. It is really up to the police officer who pulls you over. I have even heard of a case where someone got a DUI while not even driving (he owned the car but his drunk friend was driving so the owner of the car got a DUI without even being behind the wheel). Than your friend was screwed because that is not the law. The law is impaired or over a certain limit. That is why we have so many tests we run. And why you can contest a ticket. |
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Sept 4, 2011 21:23:45 GMT -5
... sure there may be some cases where the law is a little to strict and some people are the victims of circumstance. Its that may for about any crime. However, not for most and ESPECIALLY not for repeat offenders like Angle.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2011 21:28:15 GMT -5
Ok, I love his wrestling and really hope he gets some help if need be but
*Kurt takes breathilizer test*
Kurt: "What's the result, officer"
Officer: "You're Drunk!... You're Drunk!... You're Drunk!... You're Drunk!"
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Sept 4, 2011 21:29:25 GMT -5
So, wait, is this a DUI (Driving Under the Influence), or a DWI (Driving While Intoxicated). Title of the article says DWI, but in the article, it said he was driving under the influence.
They are not the same thing. DWI requires a BAC test result above .08. DUI can be under that, or include medications/drugs.
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