darthalexander
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Post by darthalexander on Dec 28, 2011 2:04:00 GMT -5
This isn't directed at anyone here, but all this talk just makes me think of this song:
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 28, 2011 3:25:31 GMT -5
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Post by Bo Rida on Dec 28, 2011 7:47:54 GMT -5
But it's like females are wrapped up in looks in part because they think that dolling themselves up make them beautiful and in part as a competition. I've heard some chicks say some pretty harsh things about other girls, and I mean some straight cutthroat stuff. Yeah where I used to work I was amazed at the hostility towards a new girl just because she was younger, blonde and had a nice arse, they'd make bitchy comments about her "wiggle" as she walked down the corridor. The weird thing is the new girl was always nice to everybody, had a long-term boyfriend (she showed no interest in any other men) and some of the bitchy women were more attractive than her anyway but she was still perceived as a threat or something.
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Post by hassanchop on Dec 28, 2011 8:17:14 GMT -5
No, we are all equal. All men and women can be equally matched, equally smart, therefore they can also be equally stupid, therefore they can be equally shallow. Got that? You sure? Because this week we're having a quiz on logic. Bring yellow paper with you.
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Post by Piccolo on Dec 28, 2011 8:20:24 GMT -5
Dressing well is more important that anything for alot of them. I think it's about perception, dressing nice gives them the idea you care and are successful. I also think that is pretty shallow. It's not more important than anything. But you are judged in society, both by men and women, based on how you dress. My CEO is a man, and he wears tailored suits to work. Shallow? Or just aware of societal conventions for appropriate dress in various situations?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2011 10:38:38 GMT -5
I think it is largely a perception thing.
The generalization is that girls aren't shallow for wanting romance, which is total BS. Romance has nothing to do with some deep, emotional connection - it's just wanting what they've been conditioned to. They want hearts n' flowers, dress up and go out to a fancy restaurant and generally something to swoon after - which has nothing to do with connecting emotionally with someone.
The arguement could be made that women are generally more high maintence in their shalloweness as guys usually just want physical attractiveness.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Dec 28, 2011 11:33:18 GMT -5
so... guy who opened this thread... are you Tommy Wiseau?
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Dec 28, 2011 11:41:17 GMT -5
so... guy who opened this thread... are you Tommy Wiseau? Let's play football in tuxedos!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2011 11:42:28 GMT -5
so... guy who opened this thread... are you Tommy Wiseau? YOU ARE TEARING ME APART BALDOBOMB
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Dec 28, 2011 11:48:07 GMT -5
Considering the number of hot girls I know who chose to be with a seriously overweight dude because they loved his personality... no. No, I don't think women are more shallow than men. I think everyone, both men and women, wants to be with someone they're attracted to, and I think everyone wants to be with someone they can talk to. this; honestly, I see bombshells or at least conventionally cute women with less-than-average-looking guys all the time. if you're cool, funny, witty etc. it can be a lot easier picking up women. that said it's sad that you can't say the same for ugly women. you almost never see ugly women with good looking guys. so, IMO, on average guys are a lot more shallow in my experience.
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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on Dec 28, 2011 11:59:18 GMT -5
I'm overweight, unkempt, have a receding hairline and haven't got much money, and I never get any.
So take from that what you will.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2011 12:23:30 GMT -5
none of my male friends will go to see a movie just because a hot chick is in it... yet some of my female friends will go see a movie solely if theres a hot guy in it.
In my experience women are the more shallow... but in no way are men better... their shallowness just doesnt effect me personally as much so I dont think its as valid.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Dec 28, 2011 12:27:39 GMT -5
I'm gonna say...sometimes.
I know, I know, I'm a brave man looking at things in a way other than black and white.
But really, you've never seen a really beautiful girl with a fat, ugly boyfriend? I've seen it a lot, and it's not always a money thing either. Some women are more attracted to men that are responsible, or funny, or charismatic. Some are attracted to status, Some are attracted to money. Some are attracted to looks. And of course, most women want a man that has it all.
I don't see how that makes them shallow though. My fantasy girl would have a pretty face, big boobs, a small waist, lots of money, be funny, be smart, and be amazing in bed. Doesn't mean that I'll stick strictly to that criteria though. If I meet somebody that doesn't quite fit that bill, but has enough of those traits, I would give them a shot.
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Post by angryfan on Dec 28, 2011 12:49:36 GMT -5
I think it comes down to stereotyping in preference, honestly, and it's something that we all, as human beings, use as a psychological crutch or defining tool. It is far easier to say "all" or "most" rather than break it down on an individual basis. Sure, we'll see trends and things that happen more often then not, but it can't be viewed as "always". I think we all know that and that's not really the point here.
I look at what women, by society's standards, are "supposed" to want, and I cringe, I really do. SImply put, the man that society says is "Mister Right" does not, and has never, existed. For us guys, the man we are "supposed to be" is a psychological impossibility, let alone physically or financially. It's a mix of John Wayne's outward mystique, the looks of a Brad Pitt or some such, money of Bill Gates, and the ability to listen like Dr. Phil all while having no weaknesses or needs of our own.
The same is true for what society paints as the "perfect woman" of course, but I can not speak to that experience as I've never had it.
I was asked once what the perfect woman was in my mind, and when I said "someone that makes me laugh and smile, someone that can carry on a good conversation and makes me happy and that's it" I was told that that couldn't be all I wanted. Simply put, as a guy, I'm expected to want the "norm", and most women are expected to want the same. It may not be true for the vast majority, but that's not how "expectations" work.
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Post by The Ichi on Dec 28, 2011 12:54:43 GMT -5
No, and my proof is in the fact that I'm an ugly bastard, yet I've managed to have some romantic success. If I was an ugly girl? Not a chance. none of my male friends will go to see a movie just because a hot chick is in it... yet some of my female friends will go see a movie solely if theres a hot guy in it. Funny, that's ALL of my male friends.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Dec 28, 2011 13:04:12 GMT -5
/\ there's nothing more annoying than going to see a movie with my best friend where he never shuts up about how hot Natalie Portman or whoever is... so I don't go to movies with him anymore.
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Post by texaswhopper on Dec 28, 2011 13:17:04 GMT -5
Men are like pals with each other alot of times when you think theycould never be. Can get into knock down drag em fight and being sitting at the same lunch table the next day. We have the easiest system ever. Fight then peace more often then not.
Women friendships/relationships are more like country aliances many times on the edge of the wire. No official terrioty rule was ever written between women but when a woman percieves her territory to be violated by another it can lead to woman war. You know with women too this stuff can go on for years. My girlfriend in high school feuded with the same girl for years, even before we met. I'd ask her sometimes "Are you still fighting with that girl?" Same answer everytime. "Yes I hate her." The thing about women feuds that amuses me is the constant low blows they deliver to each other. They are horrible to each other.
It doesn't matter that she is not as good looking. The thing about alot of attractive women is that some of them just have big egos. Some attractive women just reign king in their mind. They HAVE to make hell for any new hen in the henhouse."Let that bitch know whats up." as I heard one woman say once. No lie neither.
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Post by The Line on Dec 28, 2011 13:30:36 GMT -5
Some people like a sense of humor or general, nurturing caring attitude, while others value six pack abs or a six-figure checking account. It's hardly exclusive to one gender or sexual orientation.
Even on an individual level, there isn't anyone(at least not that I've known) that isn't shallow in at least some sense. Just everyone has it in differing degrees and in different circumstances, etc(ie: If you're just looking for a more physical relationship, of course you're going to be more shallow than you would when looking for the future parent of your children). For instance, when I'm looking to have relations with an individual, I typically follow a set "type", not on purpose but it's just what I like. However, much of that type extends into what I'm looking for in a relationship. Of course, finding a partner who can meet both criteria is awesome, and about as close as I will come to believing in the concept of "true love".
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Post by nate5054 on Dec 28, 2011 13:47:50 GMT -5
I think they are. They always want hot, good looking guys while guys will f*** pretty much anything. They want guys who are smart and educated too while guys do not care as long as she puts out. I agree with that, but that doesn't make women more shallow. It just means that men care about sex a lot more than women, and that sex is harder to get for the average guy so we'll take anything while the average girl can go to a bar and have sex with nearly every guy in the bar.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 28, 2011 13:56:26 GMT -5
Sweeping generalizations are never a good idea.
Also, "Let's go Cena/Cena sucks" chants.. eh, take em or leave em, I'll just add one I think we can all get behind:
J.Y.D!
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