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Post by Threadkiller [Classic] on Oct 13, 2011 1:04:05 GMT -5
This just sounds like speculation you and I could do watching the last 3 months of WWE Not the "Bryan actually DOES challenge at Mania" part, I'd say. He's been the least featured Mr. MITB in history, and if they're trying to do a stealth build-up, they're failing miserably. I really hope they kickstart a slow build for him soon. He can't really go on being MIA every week and then just thrust back into the spotlight. It doesn't work that way. I'd actually argue that it can't. If this WM title match is going to matter, they need to start making HIM matter. Not saying have him be a world beater. But at least feature him. Give him a storyline or a feud. Something to keep him in the picture and not have him be completely forgotten or lost in the shuffle. He could be really very valuable for them. It's like they have no idea what they've got already and still could have with the guy.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Oct 13, 2011 1:07:44 GMT -5
Except they already did this. Cena "cashed in" his Rumble win at No Way Out in '08, as I recall. And this happened before said curtain jerking. And I went to Mania that year and still think it was monumentally stupid. It was pretty much John Cena pissing away a chance to be in THE main event at Mania...losing his shot due to Orton shenanigans...then losing his Mania match as well. What's more important...getting revenge on Orton at the biggest stage at all...or at a throwaway PPV between two of the biggest shows of the year. Good choice John.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2011 1:10:53 GMT -5
Except they already did this. Cena "cashed in" his Rumble win at No Way Out in '08, as I recall. And this happened before said curtain jerking. And I went to Mania that year and still think it was monumentally stupid. It was pretty much John Cena pissing away a chance to be in THE main event at Mania...losing his shot due to Orton shenanigans...then losing his Mania match as well. What's more important...getting revenge on Orton at the biggest stage at all...or at a throwaway PPV between two of the biggest shows of the year. Good choice John. And he never went after vengeance on Orton. Instead he just kind of decided that spending like four months screwing around with JBL over JBL I think eliminating him in a four-way match or something. Speaking of, it's weird to note that JBL won that feud.
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Post by Society of the Spectacle on Oct 13, 2011 1:14:18 GMT -5
This just sounds like speculation you and I could do watching the last 3 months of WWE Not the "Bryan actually DOES challenge at Mania" part, I'd say. He's been the least featured Mr. MITB in history, and if they're trying to do a stealth build-up, they're failing miserably. I really hope they kickstart a slow build for him soon. He can't really go on being MIA every week and then just thrust back into the spotlight. It doesn't work that way. I'd actually argue that it can't. If this WM title match is going to matter, they need to start making HIM matter. Not saying have him be a world beater. But at least feature him. Give him a storyline or a feud. Something to keep him in the picture and not have him be completely forgotten or lost in the shuffle. He could be really very valuable for them. It's like they have no idea what they've got already and still could have with the guy. Lord, do I agree with you. It's somewhat disheartening to read spoilers every week for SD and see his name auspiciously absent these last couple of tapings. Here's my take though: I think Vince actually has big plans for Bryan, but I think he doesn't have faith in his writing team to keep Bryan's momentum going until 'Mania. I think they are going to wait until maybe just around the Royal Rumble and then just have him go on a complete tear, until his match at 'Mania. Even as a Bryan fan, I don't even know if he needs to win at Wrestlemania, nonetheless win both titles as some claim he should. He needs the push though, because right now, he is about as significant as Heath Slater is to the common fan. I just want Bryan getting a good solid push as the guy that even despite his height, will tear you apart, and I think even though I hate Bryan being an afterthought week after week, if they push him hard leading up to a underdog tapout victory of Henry at Wrestlemania, it will be WELL WELL worth it. I have optimism, but lord knows I am scared that it will be stripped away before Wrestlemania.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Oct 13, 2011 1:15:19 GMT -5
And I went to Mania that year and still think it was monumentally stupid. It was pretty much John Cena pissing away a chance to be in THE main event at Mania...losing his shot due to Orton shenanigans...then losing his Mania match as well. What's more important...getting revenge on Orton at the biggest stage at all...or at a throwaway PPV between two of the biggest shows of the year. Good choice John. And he never went after vengeance on Orton. Instead he just kind of decided that spending like four months screwing around with JBL over JBL I think eliminating him in a four-way match or something. Speaking of, it's weird to note that JBL won that feud. That just reminded me off that over the top Parking Lot Brawl, where I think JBL set a limo on fire that Cena was in. And then I was reminded of the RAW before where JBL tried to run over Cena while he was laying against a car. Good lord that feud was over the top.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2011 1:15:52 GMT -5
I find it believable that WWE decided to book these main events but I don't think for a second that this is a plan they'll stick with.
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Post by Rican on Oct 13, 2011 1:33:09 GMT -5
If that's really the plan then they're idiots for not featuring Bryan more prominently recently. Bryan is talented as hell, but you're gonna have a hard time selling him to the average fan as a champion contender if you wait 2-3 months before the biggest show of the year to start the build.
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Post by joebob27 on Oct 13, 2011 2:09:33 GMT -5
And he never went after vengeance on Orton. Instead he just kind of decided that spending like four months screwing around with JBL over JBL I think eliminating him in a four-way match or something. Speaking of, it's weird to note that JBL won that feud. That just reminded me off that over the top Parking Lot Brawl, where I think JBL set a limo on fire that Cena was in. And then I was reminded of the RAW before where JBL tried to run over Cena while he was laying against a car. Good lord that feud was over the top. Tried? He smashed Cena with the car and had a "OMG, what did I do, I'm going to jail" look on his face. I believe Cena showed up unscathed the next week. lol
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Post by Rolent Tex on Oct 13, 2011 2:34:06 GMT -5
] Tried? He smashed Cena with the car and had a "OMG, what did I do, I'm going to jail" look on his face. I believe Cena showed up unscathed the next week. lol That was some BS right there. Not only does he no sell moves, but he's no selling cars now. That car might have had a family that was watching at home Cena, and you made his ass look weak in front of his kids. That car never worked a gig again after that night. I hope you're happy...dick.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2011 2:47:01 GMT -5
If this is true, it's definitely gonna change before any of it happens. At least that's what I think.
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Post by jadison on Oct 13, 2011 10:23:20 GMT -5
The only person besides Henry who I could see fitting for it would be Barrett, and with how they're doing him now I can't see him winning the Rumble, much less winning the title. Honestly, though, Mania 28 in general is shaping up to by terrible in my view. Yeah, it'll sell on Rock / Cena, but I can't see much besides the unlikely Bryan / Henry that I'd be interested in. Dude...one match announced. Its 6 months away. Its not shaping up to be anything yet.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2011 10:39:01 GMT -5
Royal Rumble winner =Undertaker; Daniel Bryan cash in = zero chance.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Oct 13, 2011 11:23:46 GMT -5
I can buy it. To me it looks like they're de-emphasizing Bryan as much as they can so it's more of an underdog story when he does cash in.
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Post by dc09 on Oct 13, 2011 11:35:10 GMT -5
I really don't want this to happen, I'd love for Bryan to face the champ at Wrestlemania but the rumble should always IMO be for the main event of Wrestlemania, I wasn't watching in '08 so I don't know about how Cena did it
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Post by mysterydriver on Oct 13, 2011 14:53:37 GMT -5
I'd enjoy a Smackdown Scramble, in all honesty. Henry v. Show v. Orton v. Sheamus v. Christian v. A Returning Kane All of the other five start the match attack and hitting their various finishers on Henry to KO him before someone (Let's say Christian) sneak a pin in-between assaults. They go about their business while Henry is KO'd on the outside. Five minutes left, Henry "Wakes up" and he isn't happy. Destroys and goes to pin Christian since that was who pinned him, only to discover that Christian isn't the current champion. Grabs the ref, politely inquires as to who the current champion is ( ), and then throws everyone else out so he can pin the 'then-champ' (Hi, Returning Kane). Match ends with Henry having a showdown with Show or Sheamus with them starting to get the advantage, but Henry kicks out of their finisher just before the clock expires. Yes...I'm kind of wanting Henry to be an even bigger deal. Why do you ask?
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Post by clifford on Oct 13, 2011 15:22:23 GMT -5
Since Summerslam, Bryan has cpmpletely fallen off the radar. (Wade too now that I think about it, last week notwithstanding) They still have plenty of time to build him up for Wrestlemania, but its just strange that their not doing ANYTHING with him.
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Post by The Punisher on Oct 13, 2011 15:34:41 GMT -5
Big Show wins the Rumble (would make a change if a big man actually did!), Henry stays Champ till Mania, Daniel Bryan cashes in the case at Mania, Triple Threat Match, DBD wins by beating both big men.
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Post by Red Impact on Oct 13, 2011 15:49:46 GMT -5
If that's really the plan then they're idiots for not featuring Bryan more prominently recently. Bryan is talented as hell, but you're gonna have a hard time selling him to the average fan as a champion contender if you wait 2-3 months before the biggest show of the year to start the build. The way WWE seems to work, nothing beyond 3 months before seems to matter, though.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Oct 13, 2011 16:27:41 GMT -5
I hate the idea of somebody winning the Rumble and getting their title shot before Wrestlemania. That's such a ridiculously unnecessary break of tradition and would really devalue the Rumble more than it has been lately. I also hate the idea of Orton winning the Rumble again, as that's been the rumor. I doubt it will happen though.
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Post by mrjl on Oct 13, 2011 18:45:31 GMT -5
I think they're playing the fans. Rumble winner will challenge for the WWE title, while Bryan uses him MiTB breifcase
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