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Post by pegasuswarrior on Jun 8, 2013 6:32:59 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks the premise of The Purge is so silly that I can't even suspend my belief in the film? This *is* the every other day "my ass talks to me" thread-starter guy, right?
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Post by Lancers on Jun 8, 2013 10:20:21 GMT -5
I distinctly remember reading Carlin's first book and he proposed an idea in which there's one day every year that you can legally be allowed to murder someone.
I'm thinking somebody read Carlin's book about two or three hours before they had this really cool idea for a horror flick.
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Post by kidglov3s on Jun 8, 2013 13:08:13 GMT -5
I distinctly remember reading Carlin's first book and he proposed an idea in which there's one day every year that you can legally be allowed to murder someone. I'm thinking somebody read Carlin's book about two or three hours before they had this really cool idea for a horror flick. That's would explain the hyperviolent undertones of Shining Time Station. Mr. Conductor played for keeps. I mean, we all know trains don't talk, at least normal trains that aren't the trapped spirits of the poor unfortunate souls that attempted to rip him off on a fare.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2013 14:10:07 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2013 14:14:46 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks the premise of The Purge is so silly that I can't even suspend my belief in the film? This *is* the every other day "my ass talks to me" thread-starter guy, right? Your point? If you think I have no valid opinion for creating those threads, then you must have a less of a credible opinion for believing they are serious. Now instead taking weak potshots why don't you tell me why you think the premise of The Purge isn't silly.
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Post by kidglov3s on Jun 8, 2013 17:12:41 GMT -5
I guess what I would say is, is the premise of The Purge silly and improbable? Yes. Is it a great movie? Not really, they don't get near to mining potential of the concept. But I think there's lots of great movies based on far out premises. I really hope there are sequels that do more creative and ambitious things with it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2013 17:20:06 GMT -5
I guess what I would say is, is the premise of The Purge silly and improbable? Yes. Is it a great movie? Not really, they don't get near to mining potential of the concept. But I think there's lots of great movies based on far out premises. I really hope there are sequels that do more creative and ambitious things with it. Yeah I know that. But most movies with silly premises treat the premise like Snakes on a Plane did or they attempt to make it so mind blowing that this silly thing could actually happen and if the argument is strong it blows our minds. What I'm guessing this movie is more focused on is treating the premise really silly but putting tons of focus on social and political commentary. Usually that works really well if they present it as satire which I'm not sure this movie is doing. I haven't read any interviews or know anyone personally who saw the movie so I can't say anything more. I just hope the movie is somewhat a success because I think Ethan Hawke is a underrated actor.
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Post by kidglov3s on Jun 8, 2013 18:53:23 GMT -5
I think of Planet of the Apes, by far my favorite franchise. If you try to break it apart there all sorts of problems and reasons why things don't make like perfect logical sense. Telepathic mutants with no skin? All apes somehow go from being the animals we know today to somehow learning how to speak English perfectly within a span of ten years (Conquest to Battle). And I love those movies regardless, because there are ideas and questions raised in them that I appreciate and find value. If The Purge or the Apes series treated the premise as a joke and it was some kinda lol Dolph Ziggler 4th wall breaking palooza I'd have no interest in it.
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Post by Red Impact on Jun 8, 2013 19:07:36 GMT -5
Sci-Fi and fantasy (and by extension, most movies set in the future) really require you to accept the core premise that the universe these movies are set in is one where the movie can occur, rather than our universe with our sensibilities, physics, and logic. Then you just have to make sure that the movie is consistent with itself. It may not completely explain why things are what they are, but if you try to apply our logic and ideals, the genre as a whole just falls apart. The Purge's premise belongs in the same realm as Battle Royale or The Hunger Games to me,
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2013 19:11:21 GMT -5
I think of Planet of the Apes, by far my favorite franchise. If you try to break it apart there all sorts of problems and reasons why things don't make like perfect logical sense. Telepathic mutants with no skin? All apes somehow go from being the animals we know today to somehow learning how to speak English perfectly within a span of ten years (Conquest to Battle). And I love those movies regardless, because there are ideas and questions raised in them that I appreciate and find value. If The Purge or the Apes series treated the premise as a joke and it was some kinda lol Dolph Ziggler 4th wall breaking palooza I'd have no interest in it. Yeah but Planets of the Apes is science fiction so its easy to just go with it. Plus most of the movie you think it was some kind of foreign alien planet which once again you go with it. The twist is very clever and opens up more questions for sequels to answer. Plus the movie has already established its rules in its movie universe and the tone and such. Keep in mind I only seen the Tim Burton remake when I was 10
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Post by kidglov3s on Jun 8, 2013 19:32:37 GMT -5
I think of Planet of the Apes, by far my favorite franchise. If you try to break it apart there all sorts of problems and reasons why things don't make like perfect logical sense. Telepathic mutants with no skin? All apes somehow go from being the animals we know today to somehow learning how to speak English perfectly within a span of ten years (Conquest to Battle). And I love those movies regardless, because there are ideas and questions raised in them that I appreciate and find value. If The Purge or the Apes series treated the premise as a joke and it was some kinda lol Dolph Ziggler 4th wall breaking palooza I'd have no interest in it. Yeah but Planets of the Apes is science fiction so its easy to just go with it. Plus most of the movie you think it was some kind of foreign alien planet which once again you go with it. The twist is very clever and opens up more questions for sequels to answer. Plus the movie has already established its rules in its movie universe and the tone and such. Keep in mind I only seen the Tim Burton remake when I was 10 I guess I see The Purge as much science fiction as Apes. It's set about ten years in the future, massive upheaval has occurred in which the US is now run by the New Founders of America. They're very vague about what's happened to lead to this new world (probably the most interesting and most frustrating thing about the movie). To me that's very similar to the jump from Escape (made in 1971, set in 1972, basically the world as we knew it at the time) to Conquest (made in 1972, jump to 1991, America is now a fascist police state whose foundation is ape slave labor). I know I'm biased, but if you haven't seen the five original Apes movies (Planet, Beneath, Escape, Conquest, Battle) I'd give them my highest recommendation. Though it might be an annoying or boring experience because the films definitely take the premise series and play loose with logic to keep the series going (and to me the ingenuity in doing so is among the series' greatest merits). The Burton film has absolutely nothing to do with them at all, though I'd argue that Rise of the Planet of the Apes did a lot to carry on their spirit if in a completely new and separate third continuity.
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Post by Cela on Jun 8, 2013 21:31:57 GMT -5
I guess what I would say is, is the premise of The Purge silly and improbable? Yes. Is it a great movie? Not really, they don't get near to mining potential of the concept. But I think there's lots of great movies based on far out premises. I really hope there are sequels that do more creative and ambitious things with it. Yeah I know that. But most movies with silly premises treat the premise like Snakes on a Plane did or they attempt to make it so mind blowing that this silly thing could actually happen and if the argument is strong it blows our minds. What I'm guessing this movie is more focused on is treating the premise really silly but putting tons of focus on social and political commentary. Usually that works really well if they present it as satire which I'm not sure this movie is doing. I haven't read any interviews or know anyone personally who saw the movie so I can't say anything more. I just hope the movie is somewhat a success because I think Ethan Hawke is a underrated actor. Have you seen this bucket of incompetence?
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jun 8, 2013 21:40:59 GMT -5
Sci-Fi and fantasy (and by extension, most movies set in the future) really require you to accept the core premise that the universe these movies are set in is one where the movie can occur, rather than our universe with our sensibilities, physics, and logic. Then you just have to make sure that the movie is consistent with itself. It may not completely explain why things are what they are, but if you try to apply our logic and ideals, the genre as a whole just falls apart. The Purge's premise belongs in the same realm as Battle Royale or The Hunger Games to me, That's pretty much how i look at it. While the look of it is more realistic than the Hunger Games, it's still a fantasy world. All the movie has to do is make sure they don't contradict the world that they created in any way. Besides, this isn't the first semi-realistic horror movie with an out there premise on top of it. A lot of people who don't believe in exorcism had no issue accepting it as a part of the semi-realistic world created in the Exorcist. As far as the movie itself goes, I have to see the concept in action before I make a judgement on it for the reasons I stated above.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2013 22:19:11 GMT -5
Bomb Internship bomb. Vince Vaughn is probably the biggest untalented A Lister in Hollywood. It's sad I'm wishing this to bomb because I like google and Owen Wilson
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jun 8, 2013 22:54:13 GMT -5
Bomb Internship bomb. Vince Vaughn is probably the biggest untalented A Lister in Hollywood. It's sad I'm wishing this to bomb because I like google and Owen Wilson We agree, but it makes me sad when I heard Jason Bateman call him one of the funniest men in Hollywood.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jun 8, 2013 23:01:03 GMT -5
Internship is the kind of movie I'd see when it goes on HBO or something. Not see it in theaters.
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Post by stealthamo on Jun 8, 2013 23:06:08 GMT -5
I actually saw The Internship yesterday for free. And yeah, it's about as bad as I thought it would be. If it weren't for Owen Wilson and the fact that I didn't have to pay for it, I probably would be much more venomous about it.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jun 9, 2013 1:41:33 GMT -5
Friday Estimates: 'The Purge' - $16.7M, 'The Internship' - $6.55M, 'Fast & Furious 6' - $6.1M. Come on Fast 6, make a comeback and at least make roadkill out of The Internship.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2013 1:52:21 GMT -5
Friday Estimates: 'The Purge' - $16.7M, 'The Internship' - $6.55M, 'Fast & Furious 6' - $6.1M. Come on Fast 6, make a comeback and at least make roadkill out of The Internship. Please. I hate Vince Vaughn and he's only tolerable when he's in a supporting role or as the straight man who relies on funnier supporting actors being in charge of delivering the jokes like Dodgeball. The only exception is Wedding Crasheds but Owen Wilson was the bigger lead in the movie. Plus this would be like his third or fourth bomb in a row. Just stick to trolling Robert Luongo and the Vancouver Canucks in the Stanley Cup playoffs instead.
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Post by Cela on Jun 9, 2013 14:09:53 GMT -5
The Magicians play upset again!
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