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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jul 20, 2013 12:08:07 GMT -5
Just saw R.I.P.D. It wasn't BAD, it was entertaining enough to justify a mantinee screening price. Certainly the best thing about it was Jeff Bridges hamming it up as his Rooster/The Dude combo. And yes it pretty much is MIB with monsters.
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Jul 20, 2013 13:25:27 GMT -5
Speaking of MIB how well would that series do without Will Smith Now not so well since that's probably his most famous character outside of Will Smith in Fresh Prince. In 1997 who knows Will Smith had Bad Boys and Independence Day prior to MiB that were big hits so I think audiences really liked the Will Smith action hero character and wanted to see more. MiB came at the right time for him. Or he came at the right time for it. Chris O'Donnell and David Schwimmer were offered the role first.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 13:31:49 GMT -5
Now not so well since that's probably his most famous character outside of Will Smith in Fresh Prince. In 1997 who knows Will Smith had Bad Boys and Independence Day prior to MiB that were big hits so I think audiences really liked the Will Smith action hero character and wanted to see more. MiB came at the right time for him. Or he came at the right time for it. Chris O'Donnell and David Schwimmer were offered the role first. I don't know I just don't believe in star power. The only people that have star power are comedians since you know what kind of humour you're going to get from them. I just believe star power really means an actor choosing the movies that make the highest money. Like Will Smith has been in some big bombs when he was at his most famous and recently. Wild Wild West, Ali, Seven Pounds, After Earth
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Jul 20, 2013 13:52:07 GMT -5
Will Smith had Bad Boys and Independence Day prior to MiB that were big hits so I think audiences really liked the Will Smith action hero character and wanted to see more. MiB came at the right time for him. Or he came at the right time for it. Chris O'Donnell and David Schwimmer were offered the role first. I don't know I just don't believe in star power. The only people that have star power are comedians since you know what kind of humour you're going to get from them. I just believe star power really means an actor choosing the movies that make the highest money. Like Will Smith has been in some big bombs when he was at his most famous and recently. Wild Wild West, Ali, Seven Pounds, After Earth But in that same vein, you know what kind of Will Smith action movie you are going to get. And that does come from his choosing the right scripts. He and his agent talked about what were the highest grossing movies and would find what was similar in each. A couple of similarities were aliens, a love story, etc. But just as you said there was a certain humor people wanted to watch, it's the same with Bad Boys, Independence Day and then MiB. There would be action, explosions, Smith joking around. Wild Wild West went too far in the comedy and the tentpole summer western film that no one wants. Westerns now can't be a blockbuster as Lone Ranger demonstrated this summer. As dramas, they can do okay, 3:10 to Yuma broke even with advertising added and True Grit was a big hit. You might be right that Smith doesn't have star power to carry any film but there is a certain way audiences will accept him. They want to see him in comedies, action comedies preferably. Last year, he returned to MiBIII and that was a hit. Hancock before that. Even Pursuit of Happyness hit the right notes for a hit, there was the drama but then they had him joke around that, "He must have nice pants".
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 14:19:02 GMT -5
I don't know I just don't believe in star power. The only people that have star power are comedians since you know what kind of humour you're going to get from them. I just believe star power really means an actor choosing the movies that make the highest money. Like Will Smith has been in some big bombs when he was at his most famous and recently. Wild Wild West, Ali, Seven Pounds, After Earth But in that same vein, you know what kind of Will Smith action movie you are going to get. And that does come from his choosing the right scripts. He and his agent talked about what were the highest grossing movies and would find what was similar in each. A couple of similarities were aliens, a love story, etc. But just as you said there was a certain humor people wanted to watch, it's the same with Bad Boys, Independence Day and then MiB. There would be action, explosions, Smith joking around. Wild Wild West went too far in the comedy and the tentpole summer western film that no one wants. Westerns now can't be a blockbuster as Lone Ranger demonstrated this summer. As dramas, they can do okay, 3:10 to Yuma broke even with advertising added and True Grit was a big hit. You might be right that Smith doesn't have star power to carry any film but there is a certain way audiences will accept him. They want to see him in comedies, action comedies preferably. Last year, he returned to MiBIII and that was a hit. Hancock before that. Even Pursuit of Happyness hit the right notes for a hit, there was the drama but then they had him joke around that, "He must have nice pants". Yeah I can see that. 3 out of those 4 bombs were pretty humorless. Honestly I still believe star power is really just choosing the right movies and momentum.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jul 20, 2013 14:29:10 GMT -5
Friday Estimates (Top Ten)
1. The Conjuring - $17,030,000 2. Despicable Me 2 - $7,500,000 3. Turbo - $6,525,000 4. Grown Ups 2 - $6,400,000 5. Red 2 - $6,340,000 6. R.I.P.D. - $4,800,000 7. Pacific Rim - $4,735,000 8. The Heat - $2,840,000 9. World War Z - $1,532,000 10. Monsters University - $1,502,000
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 16:04:19 GMT -5
Friday Estimates (Top Ten) 1. The Conjuring - $17,030,000 2. Despicable Me 2 - $7,500,000 Holy s, these nu-horror movies are doing incredibly well at the box office these days....
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jul 20, 2013 16:06:36 GMT -5
Friday Estimates (Top Ten) 1. The Conjuring - $17,030,000 2. Despicable Me 2 - $7,500,000 Holy s, these nu-horror movies are doing incredibly well at the box office these days.... Well, all the reviews for The Conjuring have been extremely positive Also James Wan, as a lot of people have mentioned, is a damn good filmmaker.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 16:14:46 GMT -5
Holy s, these nu-horror movies are doing incredibly well at the box office these days.... Well, all the reviews for The Conjuring have been extremely positive Also James Wan, as a lot of people have mentioned, is a damn good filmmaker. James Wan.........ooh, the director of the 1st SAW. And Insidious. And also FAST & FURIOUS 7. Wow.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 20:26:38 GMT -5
Friday Estimates (Top Ten) 1. The Conjuring - $17,030,000 2. Despicable Me 2 - $7,500,000 Holy s, these nu-horror movies are doing incredibly well at the box office these days.... Chicks love horror movies. Just not the really gory kinds.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jul 20, 2013 20:57:33 GMT -5
Well, all the reviews for The Conjuring have been extremely positive Also James Wan, as a lot of people have mentioned, is a damn good filmmaker. James Wan.........ooh, the director of the 1st SAW. And Insidious. And also FAST & FURIOUS 7. Wow. Dude knows how to make money.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jul 20, 2013 21:53:25 GMT -5
More on RIPD The film is officially budgeted at $130 million, but some reports say it was closer to $200 million, and it's on its way to becoming the biggest bomb of the summer. Universal seemed to know it had a dud on its hands, however, running a muted marketing campaign and playing down tracking. While I did enjoy the film enough I will say it says something when the most enjoyment to be had is seeing an Academy Award winning and nominated actor just hamming it up and having a ball.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jul 20, 2013 22:09:54 GMT -5
James Wan.........ooh, the director of the 1st SAW. And Insidious. And also FAST & FURIOUS 7. Wow. Dude knows how to make money. That's why they got him for Fast & Furious 7
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2013 12:26:00 GMT -5
Wow, R.I.P.D really was an R.I.P.Dud in the box office.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jul 25, 2013 21:02:50 GMT -5
Forecast (July 26-28) The Wolverine - $72.5 million The Conjuring - $20.7 million (-51%) Despicable Me 2 - $14.7 million (-41%) Turbo - $11.7 million (-45%) Grown Ups 2 - $11 million (-45%) Amazing that after Origins, Wolverine is still a draw. Then again it is Wolverine, so people don't really care about the quality of his films. But still this film is pretty much being supported solely on him. At least Origins had guys like Gambit, Sabertooth, and Deadpool to bank on as well. Besides comic fans, who cares about Silver Samurai and stuff?
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Post by wisdomwizard on Jul 25, 2013 21:20:16 GMT -5
Forecast (July 26-28) The Wolverine - $72.5 million The Conjuring - $20.7 million (-51%) Despicable Me 2 - $14.7 million (-41%) Turbo - $11.7 million (-45%) Grown Ups 2 - $11 million (-45%) Amazing that after Origins, Wolverine is still a draw. Then again it is Wolverine, so people don't really care about the quality of his films. But still this film is pretty much being supported solely on him. At least Origins had guys like Gambit, Sabertooth, and Deadpool to bank on as well. Besides comic fans, who cares about Silver Samurai and stuff? It's not just Wolverine, it's also Hugh Jackman himself. The guy is highly likable in real life which gives him a mainstream appeal. He also has lots of charisma. I just hope I get a chance to see this, because the previews already make it look way better than Origins.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jul 25, 2013 21:24:44 GMT -5
Amazing that after Origins, Wolverine is still a draw. Then again it is Wolverine, so people don't really care about the quality of his films. But still this film is pretty much being supported solely on him. At least Origins had guys like Gambit, Sabertooth, and Deadpool to bank on as well. Besides comic fans, who cares about Silver Samurai and stuff? It's not just Wolverine, it's also Hugh Jackman himself. The guy is highly likable in real life which gives him a mainstream appeal. He also has lots of charisma. I just hope I get a chance to see this, because the previews already make it look way better than Origins. Oh I know, just to me Jackman and Wolverine are one and the same now. Like how Kevin Conroy is Batman, Jackman is Wolverine.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2013 16:32:15 GMT -5
Surprised that Wolverine is the only new wide release this week. Even if it's the end of July, it's still July. (Probably not the 1st time this has happened in a summer movie season...)
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Post by Cela on Aug 1, 2013 22:01:18 GMT -5
Forecast (August 2-4) 1. 2 Guns - $34.7 million 2. The Smurfs 2 - $24.2 million ($33.5 million five-day) 3. The Wolverine - $19.5 million (-63%) 4. The Conjuring - $11.1 million (-50%) 5. Despicable Me 2 - $9.2 million (-44%) Something seems wrong about that... I was sure 2 Guns would bomb and Smurfs would somehow win by default.
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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 1, 2013 22:40:51 GMT -5
What is it with all these movies I've never heard of until the forecast has them at number 1? First the conjuring, now this 2 guns thing.
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