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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jul 9, 2015 23:08:49 GMT -5
Both water and popular taste find their level. Yeah, Jurassic World has made a lot of money, but in 2 years' time, nobody is going to talk about it as a good movie, just like how people don't talk of Avatar or Inception as good movies. And by 'good movie', since quality is always relative, I mean something that will have an impact on popular movie culture, if not popular culture on the whole. In 20 years' time, people will ask why a meh movie made so much money at the time, as we might when we look back at 1995 when thinking about Batman Forever and Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls. The same can be said for Age of Ultron too. Avatar I may agree with you depending on how much money the sequel makes. When I talk to people 4-7 years younger than me, they reminisce Avatar as a big part of there childhood or adolescence. I disagree on Inception since since there is still tons of praise for it as a modern classic, pop songs still have inception in their lyrics in 2015, and everyone keeps saying ____ception when there are layers. But yeah Age of Ultron sort of felt like the first movie, but without the humour, charm, charming villain in Loki, and the spectacle of them teaming up together had wore off. This one felt it stripped a lot of things from the original, but added nothing to replace them. Like Dear God the trailers were amazing making it look like shit is really going to go down and The Avengers are about to face there real first challenge (first one biggest challenge was liking each other not Loki). Instead it was basically Tony Stark made a big oopsie in 10 mins in creating Ultron whose suddenly evil with no slow burn, but wasn't much of a challenge or did much damage. You can just feel the burnout of Joss Whedon in that movie To be fair though, Joss even said Age of Ultron was going to be scaled down in turns of scope, more character driven, and that the majority of Ultron's abilities would be omitted from the story. I also think a lot of people were hoping against hope that Ultron would've been created by Hank Pym, thus giving the concept a more personal and emotional story. Had Whedon got his desired ending with including Ms. Marvel and Spider-Man in the end it would've upped the earnings too, also not including another scene at the end of the credits might've hurt Age of Ultron too.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jul 9, 2015 23:11:16 GMT -5
I think because everyone knew Thanos would be in Avengers 3, people looked at Ultron and were just like "Okay, let's see how we get to Avengers 3." It was kinda viewed as like "that filler episode" on a TV show before you get to the big sha-bang story arc. I think that had a lot to do with it too. But in retrospect, I also feel people are much more looking forward to Civil War, Guardians 2, Spider-Man, and of course Infinity War. I just don't see how anyone can say Age of Ultron was a disappointment box office wise when it grossed over a billion dollars. I don't think anyone said it was a disappointment box office wise. Maybe only compared to the first movie? I imagine it cost more than the first too but I'm not 100%. I doubt 3 second cameos from characters would've really boosted box office THAT much. Unless they pulled some scummy ish and promoted it like Spider-man was in the movie as an actual character and still just gave the cameo. It's just weird how the big tent pole blow-out Marvel thing that all of phase 2 was leading to barely has anyone talking or buzzing about it only 2 months after release.
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riseofsetian1981
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jul 9, 2015 23:21:28 GMT -5
I think that had a lot to do with it too. But in retrospect, I also feel people are much more looking forward to Civil War, Guardians 2, Spider-Man, and of course Infinity War. I just don't see how anyone can say Age of Ultron was a disappointment box office wise when it grossed over a billion dollars. I don't think anyone said it was a disappointment box office wise. Maybe only compared to the first movie? I imagine it cost more than the first too but I'm not 100%. I doubt 3 second cameos from characters would've really boosted box office THAT much. Unless they pulled some scummy ish and promoted it like Spider-man was in the movie as an actual character and still just gave the cameo. It's just weird how the big tent pole blow-out Marvel thing that all of phase 2 was leading to barely has anyone talking or buzzing about it only 2 months after release. You honestly don't think if Ms. Marvel and Spider-Man showed up at the very end in the new Avengers headquarters it wouldn't have boosted up box office revenues? Whedon originally wanted to include both of them in that very scene, due to the Marvel/Sony deal not happening at the time, along with casting for Ms. Marvel and Spider-Man not being done he went into another direction. I definitely think if he pulled it off more people would've been talking about it.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jul 9, 2015 23:23:49 GMT -5
I don't think anyone said it was a disappointment box office wise. Maybe only compared to the first movie? I imagine it cost more than the first too but I'm not 100%. I doubt 3 second cameos from characters would've really boosted box office THAT much. Unless they pulled some scummy ish and promoted it like Spider-man was in the movie as an actual character and still just gave the cameo. It's just weird how the big tent pole blow-out Marvel thing that all of phase 2 was leading to barely has anyone talking or buzzing about it only 2 months after release. You honestly don't think if Ms. Marvel and Spider-Man showed up at the very end in the new Avengers headquarters it wouldn't have boosted up box office revenues? Whedon originally wanted to include both of them in that very scene, due to the Marvel/Sony deal not happening at the time, along with casting for Ms. Marvel and Spider-Man not being done he went into another direction. I definitely think if he pulled it off more people would've been talking about it. I don't think anyone on the fence about Avengers would be swayed if they heard that two characters were going to show up for 2 seconds and stand in a room. "Spider-man is in it? Awesome! What's he doing in it? Standing in a room and looking at captain america and then the movie ends.......Ok he's my 10 bucks." That's alittle nutty. People would've been excited I guess but I don't think anyone would spend money specifically because of a scene like that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 23:25:01 GMT -5
You honestly don't think if Ms. Marvel and Spider-Man showed up at the very end in the new Avengers headquarters it wouldn't have boosted up box office revenues? Whedon originally wanted to include both of them in that very scene, due to the Marvel/Sony deal not happening at the time, along with casting for Ms. Marvel and Spider-Man not being done he went into another direction. I definitely think if he pulled it off more people would've been talking about it. I don't think anyone on the fence about Avengers would be swayed if they heard that two characters were going to show up for 2 seconds and stand in a room. "Spider-man is in it? Awesome! What's he doing in it? Standing in a room and looking at captain america and then the movie ends.......Ok he's my 10 bucks." That's alittle nutty. Plus it'll be uploaded all over YouTube or Dailymotion and you can see it.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jul 9, 2015 23:25:48 GMT -5
I don't think anyone on the fence about Avengers would be swayed if they heard that two characters were going to show up for 2 seconds and stand in a room. "Spider-man is in it? Awesome! What's he doing in it? Standing in a room and looking at captain america and then the movie ends.......Ok he's my 10 bucks." That's alittle nutty. Plus it'll be uploaded all over YouTube or Dailymotion and you can see it. This too. People like the Marvel teases but I don't think people go to the movies specifically to see them.
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Post by Ryushinku on Jul 10, 2015 2:21:23 GMT -5
It's sounding like Ultron will have some kind of director's cut for the bluray/dvd, a bunch of the cut stuff added back in. That could provide a fresh look at it, for people that, for instance, got annoyed at the brevity of the Thor vision quest thing. Like Dear God the trailers were amazing making it look like shit is really going to go down and The Avengers are about to face there real first challenge (first one biggest challenge was liking each other not Loki). Instead it was basically Tony Stark made a big oopsie in 10 mins in creating Ultron whose suddenly evil with no slow burn, but wasn't much of a challenge or did much damage. I'm a total broken record on this I know, but I feel more than ever than my complete refusal to watch the trailers or read the hype articles is a big part of the reason why I enjoyed Age of Ultron just as much as The Avengers. Too much given away and surprises ruined. I didn't even know Iron Man was going to have that fight with someone in the middle of the film, and laughed a load at them trying to lift Thor's hammer when that was apparently shown months before until people had already stopped laughing much at it. Given the spoileriffic trailer of something like, say, Terminator Genisys which sadly I did see, I need to stick to that approach more often. I watched the Star Wars Ep7 teaser(s), but I'm gonna skip the proper trailer when it comes out. Unless I'm in a theatre, in which case I can at least provide entertainment for others by closing my eyes and putting my fingers in my ears or something.
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Post by Saiyanic Panic on Jul 11, 2015 9:21:12 GMT -5
Actuals will be out in a bit, but Minions socked the box office hard Friday with an estimated opening day of 46.2 million. Greater than expected drops for Inside Out & Jurassic World, everything else made squat.
The current record-holder for biggest animated opening weekend is 2007's Shrek the Third. That opened big and fell bigger, starting at $121,629,270. Minions is expected to be front-loaded so we'll see how that goes. Universal anticipates 120mil at the moment.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Jul 11, 2015 9:24:05 GMT -5
No real surprise. Despite people's complaints it was still a given that Minions would make massive bank this weekend
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Post by kidglov3s on Jul 11, 2015 9:51:37 GMT -5
Actuals will be out in a bit, but Minions socked the box office hard Friday with an estimated opening day of 46.2 million. Greater than expected drops for Inside Out & Jurassic World, everything else made squat. The current record-holder for biggest animated opening weekend is 2007's Shrek the Third. That opened big and fell bigger, starting at $121,629,270. Minions is expected to be front-loaded so we'll see how that goes. Universal anticipates 120mil at the moment. Universal's 2015 slate will go down as myth and legend.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jul 11, 2015 10:02:14 GMT -5
Actuals will be out in a bit, but Minions socked the box office hard Friday with an estimated opening day of 46.2 million. Greater than expected drops for Inside Out & Jurassic World, everything else made squat. The current record-holder for biggest animated opening weekend is 2007's Shrek the Third. That opened big and fell bigger, starting at $121,629,270. Minions is expected to be front-loaded so we'll see how that goes. Universal anticipates 120mil at the moment. Universal's 2015 slate will go down as myth and legend. For real. And werent they struggling bad a few years ago?
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Post by Saiyanic Panic on Jul 11, 2015 10:28:32 GMT -5
Actuals will be out in a bit, but Minions socked the box office hard Friday with an estimated opening day of 46.2 million. Greater than expected drops for Inside Out & Jurassic World, everything else made squat. The current record-holder for biggest animated opening weekend is 2007's Shrek the Third. That opened big and fell bigger, starting at $121,629,270. Minions is expected to be front-loaded so we'll see how that goes. Universal anticipates 120mil at the moment. Universal's 2015 slate will go down as myth and legend. And it all started so poorly with Seventh Son and Black Hat. Uni somehow deodorized that stink. Once Minions makes top ten the only films that won't be Universal or Disney right now will be Home and Sponge Bob 2.
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Post by andrew8798 on Jul 11, 2015 19:29:59 GMT -5
Friday Estimates 1. Minions $46,200,000 2. Inside Out $5,361,000 3. Jurassic World $5,300,00
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Post by andrew8798 on Jul 11, 2015 19:38:37 GMT -5
We see if Ant Man can knock off Minions next week
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jul 11, 2015 20:36:50 GMT -5
Whoa I totally forgot that AntMan was out next week. That might be a fight at the box office
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Jul 11, 2015 20:45:45 GMT -5
Whoa I totally forgot that AntMan was out next week. That might be a fight at the box office Amy Schumer had better break out the bug spray.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2015 20:52:57 GMT -5
Whoa I totally forgot that AntMan was out next week. That might be a fight at the box office Amy Schumer had better break out the bug spray. Will the possibility of John Cena exposing his bare ass buttocks draw more than Minions, Ants, Dinosaurs, and Feelings?
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Jul 11, 2015 21:14:52 GMT -5
Amy Schumer had better break out the bug spray. Will the possibility of John Cena exposing his bare ass buttocks draw more than Minions, Ants, Dinosaurs, and Feelings? Nikki: JJ, did you rent the whole theater?
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Jul 11, 2015 22:07:43 GMT -5
Amy Schumer had better break out the bug spray. Will the possibility of John Cena exposing his bare ass buttocks draw more than Minions, Ants, Dinosaurs, and Feelings? John Cena's stunt cock may go down in box office history.
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Post by andrew8798 on Jul 12, 2015 12:50:33 GMT -5
1 N Minions Uni. $115,200,000 - 4,301 - $26,784 $115,200,000 - 1
2 2 Jurassic World Uni. $18,100,000 -38.1% 3,441 -296 $5,260 $590,638,000 - 5
3 1 Inside Out BV $17,108,000 -42.5% 3,644 -514 $4,695 $283,638,000 - 4
4 3 Terminator: Genisys Par. $13,700,000 -49.3% 3,783 +25 $3,621 $68,718,000 - 2
5 N The Gallows WB (NL) $10,015,000 - 2,720 - $3,682 $10,015,000 - 1
6 4 Magic Mike XXL WB $9,640,000 -25.0% 3,376 +21 $2,855 $48,359,000 - 2
7 5 Ted 2 Uni. $5,600,000 -49.9% 2,171 -1,277 $2,579 $71,619,000 - 3
8 N Self/Less Focus $5,379,000 - 2,353 - $2,286 $5,379,000 - 1
9 N Baahubali: The Beginning BSC $3,575,000 - 236 - $15,148 $3,575,000 - 1
10 6 Max (2015) WB $3,420,000 -48.3% 2,088 -782 $1,638 $33,705,000 - 3
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