The Ichi
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Post by The Ichi on Mar 14, 2012 19:30:33 GMT -5
I'm with Orange actually. I'm not exactly anti-hunting (as long as it's for a cause) but that image of them holding that Leopard just bugs me. Come on, their faces are practically dripping with douchebaggery!
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Post by Piccolo on Mar 14, 2012 22:08:30 GMT -5
I don't understand the joy in watching something die. I can understand the thrill of a chase. I can understand the pleasure in tracking something down. I can appreciate the taste of meat.
I cannot understand that moment when you have an animal dead to rights, and you have all the satisfaction of having tracked and chased it, and yet you're still not satisfied until you watch the life go out of its eyes. I can understand that moment as a necessary evil if you're hunting for meat. I can't understand that moment as a joy in itself. And that's all it is, when you're hunting exotic game that you aren't going to eat. It's shooting something, as the man said, just to watch it die. And yeah, I think you're a bad person if that's what you call fun. I think you're every bit as bad as the people who abuse their pets, or who torture animals.
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Post by mizerable on Mar 14, 2012 22:27:22 GMT -5
Aren't elephants protected? Or is that just some areas? I can understand the leopard thing, since there have been multiple hunts over the years for cats who are possible maneaters. As far as the villagers eating them? Are you kidding? Bushmeat is bushmeat...it doesn't matter where it came from. Honestly...while I am an animal person, and have never hunted/fished/killed whatever...I don't have a problem with hunting. They donated the carcasses, which is awesome. It sure beats those assholes who kill rhinos because they think the horns cure headaches. There are no moral excuses to hunt and kill endangered animals. Leopards aren't endangered, African elephants are vulnerable, but not exactly endangered, however I don't know if they're protected and where, as far as crocs and everything else...they're pretty common.
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Mar 14, 2012 23:21:38 GMT -5
I'm with Orange actually. I'm not exactly anti-hunting (as long as it's for a cause) but that image of them holding that Leopard just bugs me. Come on, their faces are practically dripping with douchebaggery! That's because they're Trumps!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2012 1:04:10 GMT -5
I'm going to be a asshole but I find nothing wrong with hunting unless they are hunting a endangered species or doing sadistic torture. That's all I'm going to say.
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Post by Totorob101 on Mar 15, 2012 4:58:56 GMT -5
I wont say much because its clear a lot of people dont have a problem with it at all,for me personally,its sickening and its wrong,these are beautiful,living breathing animals that deserve to live in the world as much as any of us human beings do.Hunting is a horrible actitivity espicially when people do it just for the fun of it so they can kill these creatures and hold them up like some kind of trophy.Im sorry if i sound like a whiney crybaby but i care and feel compassionate about all living things in the world,Animals are vital to this planet and shouldnt be killed for sport.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Mar 15, 2012 5:19:41 GMT -5
Holy shit.....*checks outside his window and sees hellfire and brimstone rain from the skies* It has finally happened. I actually agree with something PETA has said! Thanks a lot Trump's sons! Asses...... Seriously, big game hunting nowadays is just all kinds of wrong. Granted it was always all kinds of wrong, but now it is even more so, because there are so few of most of these animals left in the wild, and surprise surprise, the reason there are so few of them left is because of f***ing big game hunting in the first place.
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Post by salsashark on Mar 15, 2012 10:52:25 GMT -5
I don't understand the joy in watching something die. I can understand the thrill of a chase. I can understand the pleasure in tracking something down. I can appreciate the taste of meat. I cannot understand that moment when you have an animal dead to rights, and you have all the satisfaction of having tracked and chased it, and yet you're still not satisfied until you watch the life go out of its eyes. I can understand that moment as a necessary evil if you're hunting for meat. I can't understand that moment as a joy in itself. And that's all it is, when you're hunting exotic game that you aren't going to eat. It's shooting something, as the man said, just to watch it die. And yeah, I think you're a bad person if that's what you call fun. I think you're every bit as bad as the people who abuse their pets, or who torture animals. Awesome post. I've never been able to put my discomfort with hunting into words, but this does the trick. I am a meat-eater, so I feel hypocritical chiding hunters. At the same time, the practice makes me feel so, so uneasy. I'm not going to picket anyone, but I just don't like it. As far as saying that animals would kill us, too -- yeah, that argument really doesn't work considering where we are in intellectually advanced societies. Look at the ideas of romance and monogamy, which are huge among humans. (A few animals do practice it, but not nearly as many compared to humans.) So, so many people believe in these ideas -- it's why adultery is considered such a huge social taboo -- but they believe in it because it's thought of as their rational solution as to working through some kind of social dilemma -- a product of building societies. The same principle goes for animal hunting. We've been able to develop and share a gazillion recipes using vegetables, so at least in 21st century America, it absolutely is possible to move away from hunting and/or consuming animals. Like I said a minute ago, I'm a meat eater, yeah, but we should acknowledge how lame this excuse is. I eat meat because I honestly like it, but I'm not about to get on some moral high horse over it. If you think that just because animals hunt other animals, we should do the same, I do hope that you also believe in abiding by other animalistic laws, such as not caring for monogamy, killing a feel human just because you feel like it, shitting anywhere you please, etc. (Bring on the joke answers ). Also, feeling bad for the leopard and not the other animals because it's a "big kitty" is total bullshit.
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Post by eukaryote on Mar 15, 2012 11:02:14 GMT -5
Disgusting. These photos make me sick.
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Post by That Mickie Fan on Mar 15, 2012 11:22:21 GMT -5
Peta should Get over it. I mean Meat is actually good for you considering it has protein, You can't get Protein from a veggie.
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Post by eukaryote on Mar 15, 2012 11:33:20 GMT -5
Peta should Get over it. I mean Meat is actually good for you considering it has protein, You can't get Protein from a veggie. Not entirely true. Most of the proteins or vitamins that can be found in meats can be found in other foods, so vegetarians aren't missing out. I don't think they should "get over it", either. Certainly, PETA have been known to be extreme at times but these pictures are disturbing.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Mar 15, 2012 12:01:50 GMT -5
Peta should Get over it. I mean Meat is actually good for you considering it has protein, You can't get Protein from a veggie. Not entirely true. Most of the proteins or vitamins that can be found in meats can be found in other foods, so vegetarians aren't missing out. I don't think they should "get over it", either. Certainly, PETA have been known to be extreme at times but these pictures are disturbing. Let me put it this way: If PETA is outraged about something, I am likely to take it at least 20% less seriously, just because I can't stand their ridiculous sanctimony and hypocrisy.
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Post by eukaryote on Mar 15, 2012 12:03:54 GMT -5
Not entirely true. Most of the proteins or vitamins that can be found in meats can be found in other foods, so vegetarians aren't missing out. I don't think they should "get over it", either. Certainly, PETA have been known to be extreme at times but these pictures are disturbing. Let me put it this way: If PETA is outraged about something, I am likely to take it at least 20% less seriously, just because I can't stand their ridiculous sanctimony and hypocrisy. That's fair, I know that PETA have managed to sour themselves to most people but through it all, they're advocating a good cause - ethical treatment of animals. Killing them for sport doesn't, obviously, fall under that.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Mar 15, 2012 12:06:52 GMT -5
Let me put it this way: If PETA is outraged about something, I am likely to take it at least 20% less seriously, just because I can't stand their ridiculous sanctimony and hypocrisy. That's fair, I know that PETA have managed to sour themselves to most people but through it all, they're advocating a good cause - ethical treatment of animals. Killing them for sport doesn't, obviously, fall under that. Again, the meat went to feed people. It wasn't PURELY for sport. Was them feeding people likely just a byproduct of a trophy hunt? Yeah, sure, I'll give you that, but the fact is, people benefited from it. And again, as far as we know, no laws were broken. At worst, they're operating in an ethical grey area. Which, again, as long as SOMEONE had that meat on their plate, I can live with.
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Post by eukaryote on Mar 15, 2012 12:19:21 GMT -5
That's fair, I know that PETA have managed to sour themselves to most people but through it all, they're advocating a good cause - ethical treatment of animals. Killing them for sport doesn't, obviously, fall under that. Again, the meat went to feed people. It wasn't PURELY for sport. Was them feeding people likely just a byproduct of a trophy hunt? Yeah, sure, I'll give you that, but the fact is, people benefited from it. And again, as far as we know, no laws were broken. At worst, they're operating in an ethical grey area. Which, again, as long as SOMEONE had that meat on their plate, I can live with. I really have to wonder who is eating Leopard meat. But, whatever, as long as someone is getting a meal, I guess it's okay to triumphantly chase down and kill an animal, gloating about it and taking pictures holding it.
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Post by mizerable on Mar 15, 2012 12:26:33 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't see how people are getting upset about this, over the hundreds of times a day poachers trap animals or are killed by someone who takes a byproduct of the animal and leaves the carcass behind. As far as "I can't believe they ate the leopard", up until about 80 years ago, Americans were also known to eat just about anything if they trapped it. It's a necessity to not be a chooser when food is so scarce, and in a lot of places in Africa, it is.
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Post by eukaryote on Mar 15, 2012 12:32:03 GMT -5
It's a necessity to not be a chooser when food is so scarce, and in a lot of places in Africa, it is. Yes, if only they came from a wealthy family who could easily donate money instead of three animals they killed for sport.
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Post by mizerable on Mar 15, 2012 12:35:34 GMT -5
Donate the money to what? Feed the World? So the militaristic countries could intercept it and only 30% goes to the actual drive?
Again, I'm not exactly in favor of hunting, but to say they're scumbags or something, is a little harsh.
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Post by eukaryote on Mar 15, 2012 12:38:35 GMT -5
Donate the money to what? Feed the World? So the militaristic countries could intercept it and only 30% goes to the actual drive? Again, I'm not exactly in favor of hunting, but to say they're scumbags or something, is a little harsh. Donate the money to sending supplies/food/resources, whatever it may be. That would go a much longer way than getting their kicks killing animals, so that maybe 30 people get a meal out of them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2012 12:42:07 GMT -5
It's a necessity to not be a chooser when food is so scarce, and in a lot of places in Africa, it is. Yes, if only they came from a wealthy family who could easily donate money instead of three animals they killed for sport. Yeah, an odds are they donated it to local tribesmen when they realized this might get them some bad press.
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