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Post by chefboyardee2010 on Dec 25, 2011 5:30:21 GMT -5
i completly agree with the premise of this thread but ill say this moxley is gonna be debuting at the perfect time they definately need him
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Post by avenger on Dec 25, 2011 6:23:39 GMT -5
You can't have your three biggest stars all as faces (Orton, Punk, Cena). Add Triple H, The Undertaker and The Rock, and it's more than three - but the top three full-time faces in the company have one thing in common. They were all heels who got so far over, that they were getting cheered - and cheered so much that the WWE had little choice but to turn them face. In fact that may even have happened with the last turns of Triple H, The Undertaker and The Rock. Cody Rhodes is starting to get cheers here and there too. And when the crows start getting behind someone in that way (be it turning a top heel, or the way that Ryder got over) the WWE has to get behind it sooner rather than later for the simple reason that it's good for business.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 25, 2011 6:50:07 GMT -5
Just bring back jobber matches (not those with lower tier WWE wrestlers but with those skinny fat pasty random dudes) on Raw & Smackdown and problem solved.
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Post by #RUDO Coco Del Rio on Dec 25, 2011 10:12:02 GMT -5
Always blame it on the booking. Because, really... There's nothing wrong with our heels. They've got all the tools. But they tend to look like jokes against the faces. They get one or two weeks of looking like a threat but for the rest of the feud, they're just there to act as punching bags or avenues for faces to release their pent-up frustrations.
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Arrow
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Post by Arrow on Dec 25, 2011 11:32:00 GMT -5
While I agree that terrible booking plays a part, I don't think that's the only problem. Looking back over their main event runs, I question whether or not guys like Alberto del Rio really needed to be in the positions they were in.
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Celgress
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by Celgress on Dec 25, 2011 11:34:54 GMT -5
I don't get the Del Rio hate, he's a really entertaining guy to watch. The facial expressions and the bit where he acts classy to hide his barbaric tendences are both awesome. I don't understand it either.
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neilc
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Post by neilc on Dec 25, 2011 12:58:12 GMT -5
That's one thing I don't understand: WWE wants us to pay for PPV to see the end of a feud. But if Cena, Orton or any other babyface keeps dominating with no problem, why would we pay to see them 'overcome the odds?' Before Orton recently started to lose a bit, it seemed only a gang attack could take out a Super Face. The Orton/Christian 'rivalry,' did Christian win one match? Both have huge potential, but we are talking about the WWE here. The company was built on feeding the heel of the week to the babyface champion. The only time it was ever any different was the Reign of Terror. I agree, but the thing is that Cena basically makes the heels look like a joke. How are they supposed to get any heat at all when Cena destroys them effortlessly? Even Hogan has managed to sell a beatdown for more than a week once in his life.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Dec 25, 2011 13:16:05 GMT -5
WWE has always been a baby face territory, so it's not much of a surprise. The only really strong heel in the past decade was, well, Triple H. Booked strong anyway. Chris Jericho and CM Punk were both much better heels, and really got the crowds to hate them. I never heard of so much fan altercations in recent years until Punk and Jericho.
And of course, FCW is stockpiled with heels. Dean Ambrose, Damien Sandow, Antonio Cesaro, The Ascension, Leo Kruger, Brad Maddox, hell, they just turned Ricky Steamboat's kid. He's kind of odd as a heel, but it's at the early stages now.
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