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Post by bestthateverdidit on Dec 11, 2011 19:55:01 GMT -5
I tell you what Maria, write any lies about me then I will launch a libel action against you. I don't understand how people can make remarks about others for which they have no evidence, thus tarnishing the other's reputation, without reciprocity. It's character defamation. If you don't have concrete evidence, then shut the hell up about it.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Dec 11, 2011 20:05:48 GMT -5
I will say I don't believe the casting couch rumors at least for the Bella Twins because THEY threatened to quit the WWE if they weren't called up from Developmental... I don't think they would then sleep with people solely to keep their jobs.
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Post by Starshine on Dec 12, 2011 0:46:20 GMT -5
The weight of crushing indifference envelops this feud for me!
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Post by sunnytaker on Dec 12, 2011 9:10:37 GMT -5
clearly the only way this can be settled is an Ironwoman 60 minute lingerie pillow fight between all parties invovled in this feud.
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Dec 12, 2011 9:19:57 GMT -5
I'm just waiting for Chris Masters to come out and say that JTG and Drew McIntyre give Stephanie McMahon oral pleasure to keep their jobs. This whole "she's worthless, of course she's doing 'favors' to keep her job" is ridiculously sexist. The thing is, these rumors come out, and people just want to believe it. Would anyone be talking about Maria right now if it wasn't for this? Yes. We would. The afterbuzztv show of which she is a host is talked about every week here after it airs. |
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Dec 12, 2011 9:24:44 GMT -5
What was Maria's excuse for being employed for so many years while bringing absolutely nothing to the table? Well, lets see: 1. She got over as a ditzy backstage interviewer. 2. She one of the only divas to actually get a pop. 3. She did everything the writers asked of her without complaint. And that is just off the top of my head. Saying "she brought absoultely nothing to the table" is flat out false. |
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Post by dlg3000 on Dec 12, 2011 9:47:34 GMT -5
I thought that she too brought a little something to the table. She wasn't completely useless as a Diva, but I still think that it was classless of her or anyone insinuating someone doing something wrong if there is no proof. It is like this guy who brought up HBK performing sex acts to get to where he was during the beginning of his career. Where is the proof in that?
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Dec 12, 2011 10:25:37 GMT -5
What was Maria's excuse for being employed for so many years while bringing absolutely nothing to the table? Well, lets see: 1. She got over as a ditzy backstage interviewer. 2. She one of the only divas to actually get a pop. 3. She did everything the writers asked of her without complaint. And that is just off the top of my head. Saying "she brought absoultely nothing to the table" is flat out false.  You're like (Un)Great Khali when it comes to Maria, aren't you? |
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Post by PKO on Dec 12, 2011 10:57:13 GMT -5
I'm a bit confused about the comments saying Maria had no evidence about this. She did work there at the same time as them, she's a little more in the know than the rest of us. It's not like she was gonna take pictures for future reference was it?
Really, I don't think I care that much either way. Maybe the Bellas just found Johnny attractive and wanted a good time. And wrestlers are notorious gossipers, it's not like Maria is unique in this aspect.
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Post by bertheart90 on Dec 12, 2011 12:27:29 GMT -5
who was the diva that masters outed ?
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Post by sunnytaker on Dec 12, 2011 13:04:00 GMT -5
Well, lets see: 1. She got over as a ditzy backstage interviewer. 2. She one of the only divas to actually get a pop. 3. She did everything the writers asked of her without complaint. And that is just off the top of my head. Saying "she brought absoultely nothing to the table" is flat out false. You're like (Un)Great Khali when it comes to Maria, aren't you? well i agree about the first two. then they took away her ditzy charm and tried to make her more serious which i had mixed feelings about since as the ditz she actually had more of an entertaining character than serious Maria. and she did get at least a small pop from the crowd regularly which was better than most of the divas did at the time (mickie i think was the only face that outpopped her regularly). couldn;t say anything about the third point though either way. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2011 13:18:02 GMT -5
Well, lets see: 1. She got over as a ditzy backstage interviewer. 2. She one of the only divas to actually get a pop. 3. She did everything the writers asked of her without complaint. And that is just off the top of my head. Saying "she brought absoultely nothing to the table" is flat out false. You're like (Un)Great Khali when it comes to Maria, aren't you? I get what you're saying, but I don't appreciate that comparison at all. I may defend a specific wrestler, but I have tried extremely hard to prove that the principles which I use to defend that wrestler apply to others. "Moral newz" on anyone is total BS, as far as I'm concerned. But I'm glad that since earlier this year, the use of it for all wrestlers has declined dramatically, because it's absolute character defamation. In courts, as someone else mentioned, it'd be libel. Maria could technically be sued in a civil court for these statements. And so could most wrestlers who release shoot videos. |
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Dec 12, 2011 13:30:27 GMT -5
You're like (Un)Great Khali when it comes to Maria, aren't you? I get what you're saying, but I don't appreciate that comparison at all. I may defend a specific wrestler, but I have tried extremely hard to prove that the principles which I use to defend that wrestler apply to others. "Moral newz" on anyone is total BS, as far as I'm concerned. But I'm glad that since earlier this year, the use of it for all wrestlers has declined dramatically, because it's absolute character defamation. In courts, as someone else mentioned, it'd be libel. Maria could technically be sued in a civil court for these statements. And so could most wrestlers who release shoot videos. No offense meant to you, or at all really. Just that for all the heat you get for "white knighting" for Melina, the Doc seems to be doing essentially the same thing for Maria. |
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Post by jadison on Dec 12, 2011 13:58:32 GMT -5
I'm just waiting for Chris Masters to come out and say that JTG and Drew McIntyre give Stephanie McMahon oral pleasure to keep their jobs. This whole "she's worthless, of course she's doing 'favors' to keep her job" is ridiculously sexist. The thing is, these rumors come out, and people just want to believe it. Would anyone be talking about Maria right now if it wasn't for this? Yes. We would. The afterbuzztv show of which she is a host is talked about every week here after it airs. Right, in that one thread gets 3 replies a week. Forgot. |
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Dec 12, 2011 14:15:18 GMT -5
Well, lets see: 1. She got over as a ditzy backstage interviewer. 2. She one of the only divas to actually get a pop. 3. She did everything the writers asked of her without complaint. And that is just off the top of my head. Saying "she brought absoultely nothing to the table" is flat out false. You're like (Un)Great Khali when it comes to Maria, aren't you? No, because I actually can admit when Maria does wrong and can also admit to Maria's short comings in the ring. It was wrong for Maria to make the comments she made about the Bellas. If she wants to make her case that she will succeed or fail based on merit rather doing something unethical to get ahead, fine. But don't call someone out by name in the process. |
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Dec 12, 2011 14:17:43 GMT -5
and she did get at least a small pop from the crowd regularly which was better than most of the divas did at the time (mickie i think was the only face that outpopped her regularly). couldn;t say anything about the third point though either way. The third point was mentioned by a WWE writer when she was released. That point was also backed up by Paul Heyman. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2011 14:18:30 GMT -5
You're like (Un)Great Khali when it comes to Maria, aren't you? No, because I actually can admit when Maria does wrong and can also admit to Maria short comings in the ring. It was wrong for Maria to make the comments she made about the Bellas. If she wants to make her case that she will succeed or fail based on merit rather doing something unethical to get ahead, fine. But don't call someone out by name in the process. That's why you say to believe a bunch of rumors and hearsay about other wrestlers because she said it, right? And please, don't act like I don't believe that Melina has weaknesses as a performer. But I do take issue with the fact that, as above in this thread, bad word can be spread about her and apparently, it has to be true because someone said it. In reality, for no wrestlers should we believe such information regarding others, unless we personally know them, and we should never believe that other people actually do fit into the mold of what someone with an obvious problem has said about them, Bellas included. |
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Dec 12, 2011 14:30:36 GMT -5
That's why you say to believe a bunch of rumors and hearsay about other wrestlers because she said it, right? I never said whether I believed her or not. You accused Maria of making stuff up and told her to back it up. So I told you follow your own words and back up your claim that Maria is lying or shut up. Or are you saying "Do as I say, not as I Do"? I don't know whether Maria is telling the truth or not. You don't either. She worked with them. We didn't. What I do know is that if you refuse to back up your claim, you are everything you claim Maria is. |
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Dec 12, 2011 14:40:58 GMT -5
That's why you say to believe a bunch of rumors and hearsay about other wrestlers because she said it, right? I never said whether I believed her or not. You accused Maria of making stuff up and told her to back it up. So I told you follow your own words and back up your claim that Maria is lying or shut up. Or are you saying "Do as I say, not as I Do"? I don't know whether Maria is telling the truth or not. You don't either. She worked with them. We didn't. What I do know is that if you refuse to back up your claim, you are everything you claim Maria is. But when he asks the same of someone making claims about Melina, he's "white knighting." This is the hypocrisy I was talking about. |
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Dec 12, 2011 14:48:16 GMT -5
I never said whether I believed her or not. You accused Maria of making stuff up and told her to back it up. So I told you follow your own words and back up your claim that Maria is lying or shut up. Or are you saying "Do as I say, not as I Do"? I don't know whether Maria is telling the truth or not. You don't either. She worked with them. We didn't. What I do know is that if you refuse to back up your claim, you are everything you claim Maria is. But when he asks the same of someone making claims about Melina, he's "white knighting." This is the hypocrisy I was talking about. I don't know if Maria is telling the truth or not. So, I won't accuse her of lying, but I won't assume she is telling the truth either. But he is claiming as fact that she is lying. He is asking Maria to back up her claims, but won't back up his very own claim. He is trying to hold her to a standard that he won't hold himself to. That is white knighting. |
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