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Post by CrazySting on Dec 8, 2011 22:16:21 GMT -5
mariakmania.com/2011/12/05/maria-takes-another-shot-at-the-bella-twins/Basically, Maria has spent ages taking snide digs about the Bellas and John Laurinaitis (implying some sort of relationship)and some of the newz sites picked up on it recently. Here is Maria's defence from facebook: Afterbuzz for Raw on afterbuzztv.com is a show about a show. We talk about story lines, wrestling, gossip, news, superstars, divas, fashion, and we have guests. Are we funny? Yes. Do we make jokes? Of course. Is there inside info? Sure. Do we get nasty? Sometimes. All of my co-hosts have their own beliefs, style and personality. We have view points that differ. I was given a voice and I have strong beliefs. I don't believe in authority or following a norm. I have sacrificed a lot because of my strong morals. But one thing I will never sacrifice is my values. I will not get ahead just because I play the game. Even though I know how. I will succeed on merit and talent. Or I will fail and failure is just another step towards success. Passion is my motivation..... Rock it. Maria best be careful if she ever wants another shot in WWE...
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Post by PKO on Dec 8, 2011 22:24:26 GMT -5
Would it surprise anyone at all?
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Post by CrazySting on Dec 8, 2011 22:26:20 GMT -5
Would it surprise anyone at all? Well, after Tiffany's remarks last year and Masters outing some SD diva for sleeping with Hayes to keep her job, probably not. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2011 22:33:33 GMT -5
Values? What values? I don't care if what she said is true or not, but Maria spreading gossip about the personal lives of others is totally classless.
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Post by BigWill on Dec 8, 2011 22:36:02 GMT -5
Values? What values? I don't care if what she said is true or not, but Maria spreading gossip about the personal lives of others is totally classless. How's it classless? It's no different than what we do on this board. Now if she still worked for the company, sure it would be classless. But at this time she's just another fan making her voice heard. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2011 22:43:43 GMT -5
Values? What values? I don't care if what she said is true or not, but Maria spreading gossip about the personal lives of others is totally classless. How's it classless? It's no different than what we do on this board. Now if she still worked for the company, sure it would be classless. But at this time she's just another fan making her voice heard. I've said many times that I don't like it on here when we try and say things about the sex lives of wrestlers (because often, these rumors are explicit libel meant to defame an individual or individuals). For someone who's actually in the business, what kind of decency is that? If she has an ACTUAL problem with them, she can critique their abilities (or what she perceives to be their weaknesses) rather than being petty and trying childish insults. And I'm not even a fan of the Bellas, so eh. |
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Post by norsisclouds on Dec 8, 2011 22:52:57 GMT -5
Maria comes across kind of as an entitled well--she comes across as very entitled full of herself.
She's made several comments that were out of line about the Bellas--true or not--that are completely inappropriate, said some nasty things about Melina and then wouldn't put her money where her mouth was when she had the opportunity to speak to her personally, and to top it off had the gall to suggest she deserved a women's championship reign because she pinned Beth, McCool and Lita in matches before, without considering her atrocious wrestling skills/the way the matches were booked. I get that now they just give the title to anyone, but I thought it was disrespectful of her to start lumping herself in with people that were actual accomplished wrestlers and complain about other people without acknowledging her own shortcomings.
I also thought it was laughable that she of all people was going to coach indie wrestlers on how to market themselves for WWE. Sure, she got over--but there are so many things wrong with her coaching serious female wrestlers I can't quite wrap my mind around it.
On the one hand I understand her frustration if she was pushed out unfairly for "speaking her mind" but on the other hand is it really necessary to trash other women who are working or worked just as hard as you did if not more to make it in the business? No, instead let's insinuate that they're sleeping around with management. It just irks me.
OT- But she also seemed really hung up on CM Punk in a...weird kind of way.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2011 22:53:08 GMT -5
It's not Johnny Ace's fault that no diva can resist the allure of Mr. Excitement.
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Post by Heartbreaker on Dec 8, 2011 22:53:29 GMT -5
Yep, such a shocker. Seriously, they have to be part of the companies most useless women along with Rosa Mendes. Would explain how they have been on the roster this long.
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Post by CrazySting on Dec 8, 2011 22:55:07 GMT -5
OT- But she also seemed really hung up on CM Punk in a...weird kind of way. Her entire first album was apparently about their break up. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2011 22:57:20 GMT -5
Yep, such a shocker. Seriously, they have to be part of the companies most useless women along with Rosa Mendes. Would explain how they have been on the roster this long. But this is exactly the mindset that encourages her to keep something like this up. Maria has pulled this crap before and she's at it again: said some nasty things about Melina and then wouldn't put her money where her mouth was when she had the opportunity to speak to her personally This is exactly the case. She made up shit and then didn't back it up as soon as it looked like it could blow up in her face. Seriously, why do we believe the antagonists? How often do the Bellas say shit about people? How often does Melina say shit about people? Yet Maria is a proven, self-righteous sensationalist who stirs the pot and what she says is taken as gospel? |
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Post by CrazySting on Dec 8, 2011 23:06:35 GMT -5
Not saying it's right, but if there IS a casting couch environment in WWE (and I seriously doubt ALL these people are lying) it might be better in the long run for it to get out.
I mean, people crap on the models, but I feel bad for anyone young woman who walks into that situation and doesn't have a clue what she's in for. You expose that sort of thing, it may stop. Or at least smarten up some women who are considering accepting a contract with them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2011 23:08:43 GMT -5
The only way I care about the Bella Twins' sex life is if it involves me.
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Post by norsisclouds on Dec 8, 2011 23:13:05 GMT -5
Yep, such a shocker. Seriously, they have to be part of the companies most useless women along with Rosa Mendes. Would explain how they have been on the roster this long. But this is exactly the mindset that encourages her to keep something like this up. Maria has pulled this crap before and she's at it again: said some nasty things about Melina and then wouldn't put her money where her mouth was when she had the opportunity to speak to her personally This is exactly the case. She made up s*** and then didn't back it up as soon as it looked like it could blow up in her face. Seriously, why do we believe the antagonists? How often do the Bellas say s*** about people? How often does Melina say s*** about people? Yet Maria is a proven, self-righteous sensationalist who stirs the pot and what she says is taken as gospel? One thing she said about Melina is that Melina would come to her and want to do more risky spots in their matches. OK I can get why you'd turn that down if you don't think you're good enough to handle it...but from the looks of other matches Melina wrestled where she asked to do more--against Beth, against Michelle, against Natalya--the person taking the risky bumps and doing the scary spots was Melina. It sounded more like Melina was a determined worker who just didn't want to do a run of the mill diva's match, not like Melina was asking Maria to do anything out of line. She wanted to push the limits of what Creative was allowing the women to do and she asked the other women to take chances with her and let her do certain spots. It's not like she was asking Maria to do a diving cross body to the outside, and none of the other women seemed to have any problem with it and took her up on her offers eg. Mickie James vs Melina @ Backlash, the double split spot, or any of the matches with Beth where she bends Melina into a pretzel and hits her with her own leg. I'm not there, I don't know what went on, but Maria seems overly sensitive and short-sighted. Well, a lot of artists do this, but it makes her little dig at Lita and Punk saying "I knew it wouldn't last" because Lita was emotionally closed off a little...well...OK Maria. |
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Dec 9, 2011 2:01:57 GMT -5
Yep, such a shocker. Seriously, they have to be part of the companies most useless women along with Rosa Mendes. Would explain how they have been on the roster this long. But this is exactly the mindset that encourages her to keep something like this up. Maria has pulled this crap before and she's at it again: said some nasty things about Melina and then wouldn't put her money where her mouth was when she had the opportunity to speak to her personally This is exactly the case. She made up s*** and then didn't back it up as soon as it looked like it could blow up in her face. Seriously, why do we believe the antagonists? How often do the Bellas say s*** about people? How often does Melina say s*** about people? Yet Maria is a proven, self-righteous sensationalist who stirs the pot and what she says is taken as gospel? OF course you think Maria made up stuff about Melina, but only becuase its Melina and because you blindly believe Melina can do no wrong. You say Maria made up stuff? Then you need to follow your own accusation against Maria and back it up. Or you are just "making up s***". |
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Dec 9, 2011 2:07:45 GMT -5
She only needs to be careful if she goes on a more mainstream outlest and makes those claims. Even then, Sable was rehired despite suinng WWE for $110 million. If Vince thinks you can make him some money, he will sign you. At the end of the day, I don't think she will ever go back to WWE because she doesn't need to. How's it classless? It's no different than what we do on this board. Now if she still worked for the company, sure it would be classless. But at this time she's just another fan making her voice heard. It's not classless, but it isn't a smart thing to do. I appreciate her willingness to speak her mind, but you have to reign that in to some degree lest it blows up in your face. Well, a lot of artists do this, but it makes her little dig at Lita and Punk saying "I knew it wouldn't last" because Lita was emotionally closed off a little...well...OK Maria. I took that comment and dig as speaking from her personal experience. |
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Dec 9, 2011 2:14:23 GMT -5
Here's my issue......
Multiple (Dubious mind you) sources have claimed a "Casting Couch" environment and mentality in the WWE. Who's leveling the accusations is suspect at best, but the fact of the matter is that it's out there. I doubt EVERYONE saying it is lying, they may be exaggerating a bit but outright lying, especially all telling the SAME lie seems a bit far fetched.
In an "I scratch your back....." environment like wrestling it would be less believable WASN'T happening.
Is it any business of ours though? ......not really. If you want to harp on Rosa Mendes, I think it would carry more weight (With me at least) if she were showcased or made a centerpiece of the division. She is not......while It's a crappy situation if she believes that she HAS to continue a sexual relationship (assuming she's in one) to keep her job, she's not exactly taking TV time away from "better" Divas.
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Post by lez 3:16 on Dec 9, 2011 2:15:55 GMT -5
cant they just kiss and make up.
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Dec 9, 2011 2:19:07 GMT -5
cant they just kiss and make up. Not for less than 4.99/minute |
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Post by LostLord on Dec 9, 2011 2:32:16 GMT -5
cant they just kiss and make up. Not for less than 4.99/minute For Maria and The Bellas or Melina? Not say it isn't worth it, but I gots ta know. |
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