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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Jun 28, 2021 0:39:56 GMT -5
Yay for sexy Vampire women!! I would say yay for sexy werewolf women too, but you guys would think I'm weird.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Jun 28, 2021 0:48:52 GMT -5
I had heard for years how shitty Milligan's films were, then Video Watchdog did a 3 issue long article on Milligan and I started tracking down his films. This was pre-DVD days.So that meant paying for bootlegs.
The Ghastly Ones and Seeds of Sin was the first legit Milligan I got. Love Guru the mad Monk.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jun 28, 2021 8:34:28 GMT -5
I had heard for years how shitty Milligan's films were, then Video Watchdog did a 3 issue long article on Milligan and I started tracking down his films. This was pre-DVD days.So that meant paying for bootlegs. The Ghastly Ones and Seeds of Sin was the first legit Milligan I got. Love Guru the mad Monk. I still have to watch those ones with the Something Weird Video commentary and the hour long outtake collection. But if I do I’m never getting those hours of my life back.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jun 29, 2021 19:15:31 GMT -5
I just wrapped up watching the Texas Chainsaw Massacre series with Leatherface. I definitely have some thoughts on all the films, but before I get into it I had a question.
What was the first mainstream horror movie to be self-aware in a humorous sense while not being an all out parody? Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 was a very early example of that, but Friday the 13th Part VI came earlier that month. I have a feeling some older stuff predates it.
There’s stuff years earlier like Student Bodies but that’s more a flat out spoof. Things like TCM2 and F13th Part VI make an attempt to function on two levels. Legitimate horror with self aware humor. I guess you could say Nightmare on Elm Street beat them to the punch but the original just seems like straight horror with a charismatic villain. Part 2 has humor, but a lot of it honestly seems unintentional. Maybe by Part 3 it’s self-aware but that was after TCM2 and F13th Part VI.
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Post by adamclark52 on Jun 30, 2021 0:16:13 GMT -5
171. Mirror Mirror (1990) *DVD* Another forgotten late-1980’s/early-1990’s horror movie that I only got because it was part of a double feature with another movie I wanted to see (the Brain Sucker). Usually I don’t get around to watching those but I did tonight and it turned out to be a decent slasher-ish movie about about a social outcast who gains evil powers through a cursed mirror. Unfortunately the violence wasn’t too graphic but some of the scenarios that played out were kinda neat. I liked the shower kill.
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Post by DSR on Jun 30, 2021 0:54:45 GMT -5
I just wrapped up watching the Texas Chainsaw Massacre series with Leatherface. I definitely have some thoughts on all the films, but before I get into it I had a question. What was the first mainstream horror movie to be self-aware in a humorous sense while not being an all out parody? Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 was a very early example of that, but Friday the 13th Part VI came earlier that month. I have a feeling some older stuff predates it. There’s stuff years earlier like Student Bodies but that’s more a flat out spoof. Things like TCM2 and F13th Part VI make an attempt to function on two levels. Legitimate horror with self aware humor. I guess you could say Nightmare on Elm Street beat them to the punch but the original just seems like straight horror with a charismatic villain. Part 2 has humor, but a lot of it honestly seems unintentional. Maybe by Part 3 it’s self-aware but that was after TCM2 and F13th Part VI. I'm in the midst of reading "Rational Fears: American Horror in the 1950s" and the author of that book writes that studios like Universal and American International Pictures at the time were aware of the shortcomings of the low budget films they were making, and attempted to straddle the line between serious horror and camp. Films like ATTACK OF THE 50 FOOT WOMAN and I WAS A TEENAGE WEREWOLF are cited as examples. If you're referring to more modern (I.E. post-HALLOWEEN) horror, I noted years ago there was a bit of black humor in FRIDAY THE 13TH PART 2 when the dog Muffin walks up to Jason and stares directly up at him (the shot is from Jason's POV), and then we jump cut to a roasting hot dog.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jun 30, 2021 11:32:10 GMT -5
I just wrapped up watching the Texas Chainsaw Massacre series with Leatherface. I definitely have some thoughts on all the films, but before I get into it I had a question. What was the first mainstream horror movie to be self-aware in a humorous sense while not being an all out parody? Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 was a very early example of that, but Friday the 13th Part VI came earlier that month. I have a feeling some older stuff predates it. There’s stuff years earlier like Student Bodies but that’s more a flat out spoof. Things like TCM2 and F13th Part VI make an attempt to function on two levels. Legitimate horror with self aware humor. I guess you could say Nightmare on Elm Street beat them to the punch but the original just seems like straight horror with a charismatic villain. Part 2 has humor, but a lot of it honestly seems unintentional. Maybe by Part 3 it’s self-aware but that was after TCM2 and F13th Part VI. I'm in the midst of reading "Rational Fears: American Horror in the 1950s" and the author of that book writes that studios like Universal and American International Pictures at the time were aware of the shortcomings of the low budget films they were making, and attempted to straddle the line between serious horror and camp. Films like ATTACK OF THE 50 FOOT WOMAN and I WAS A TEENAGE WEREWOLF are cited as examples. If you're referring to more modern (I.E. post-HALLOWEEN) horror, I noted years ago there was a bit of black humor in FRIDAY THE 13TH PART 2 when the dog Muffin walks up to Jason and stares directly up at him (the shot is from Jason's POV), and then we jump cut to a roasting hot dog. Yeah, it’s kind of tricky to explain what I mean exactly. I’m definitely focusing on more post-Halloween era horror though. Specifically the kind where the humor permeates throughout but a non-horror fan could still get spooked throughout the movie. Like I don’t think anyone would be scared by Student Bodies. Maybe little kids. But it’s all so ridiculous that even if one of the murders somehow scared an adult they’d be able to laugh it off within 5 minutes of watching it or at least acknowledge it’s supposed to be a comedy. Whereas in TCM2 even some casual horror fans could get freaked out by things like LG being skinned alive. But humor is woven throughout. Like with the super campy Chop Top character, Drayton’s dialogue, Leatherface running out of the music vault at the radio station, etc. Nowadays it seems like most popular horror movies have a level of self-aware humor in them. Like the kills going on too long in Hatchet or Richard Jenkins goofing on the horror tropes in The Cabin in the Woods. Things like the original TCM or as you mentioned F13th Part 2 may have some dark humor and arguably even a nudge, but they don’t permeate the film.
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Post by DSR on Jun 30, 2021 13:53:29 GMT -5
I'm in the midst of reading "Rational Fears: American Horror in the 1950s" and the author of that book writes that studios like Universal and American International Pictures at the time were aware of the shortcomings of the low budget films they were making, and attempted to straddle the line between serious horror and camp. Films like ATTACK OF THE 50 FOOT WOMAN and I WAS A TEENAGE WEREWOLF are cited as examples. If you're referring to more modern (I.E. post-HALLOWEEN) horror, I noted years ago there was a bit of black humor in FRIDAY THE 13TH PART 2 when the dog Muffin walks up to Jason and stares directly up at him (the shot is from Jason's POV), and then we jump cut to a roasting hot dog. Yeah, it’s kind of tricky to explain what I mean exactly. I’m definitely focusing on more post-Halloween era horror though. Specifically the kind where the humor permeates throughout but a non-horror fan could still get spooked throughout the movie. Like I don’t think anyone would be scared by Student Bodies. Maybe little kids. But it’s all so ridiculous that even if one of the murders somehow scared an adult they’d be able to laugh it off within 5 minutes of watching it or at least acknowledge it’s supposed to be a comedy. Whereas in TCM2 even some casual horror fans could get freaked out by things like LG being skinned alive. But humor is woven throughout. Like with the super campy Chop Top character, Drayton’s dialogue, Leatherface running out of the music vault at the radio station, etc. Nowadays it seems like most popular horror movies have a level of self-aware humor in them. Like the kills going on too long in Hatchet or Richard Jenkins goofing on the horror tropes in The Cabin in the Woods. Things like the original TCM or as you mentioned F13th Part 2 may have some dark humor and arguably even a nudge, but they don’t permeate the film. Really most of the examples I can think of are films that are self aware of 1950s-era horror tropes but play the modern horror elements relatively straight. Like FRIDAY VI references gothic horror with the Jason resurrection scene and Karloff's convenience store. FRIGHT NIGHT would be another good example, and it came out the year before FRIDAY VI and TCM2. CREEPSHOW was deliberately over-the-top in its presentation, still had creepy atmosphere throughout, and had the tagline "The Most Fun You'll Ever Have Being Scared".
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Post by adamclark52 on Jul 1, 2021 0:14:44 GMT -5
171. Things* *Tubi* This is what I really wanted from the Brain Sucker the other night. And from every other movie I’ve ever watched in my life. A complete shitty mess of a movie with terrible lighting, effects, sound editing, music selection (I think they got the soundtrack for this mixed up with some other movie), acting and everything else. I’d wager that the catering was absolutely terrible. The sound editing is where it really shines. I don’t think there was one moment that wasn’t done in post-production by people who possibly hadn’t seen the movie and were just reading scripts. And speaking of reading scripts; the one news anchor who’s clearly reading her lines off a teleprompter or someone holding cue-cards up for her should be entered into the hallowed halls of S.O.V. legend. f***ing. Incredible.
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Post by DSR on Jul 1, 2021 1:21:00 GMT -5
THINGS is so terrible, it's amazing. I once called it an accidental precursor to something like Tim and Eric Awesome Show Great Job. Which still feels sorta accurate.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jul 2, 2021 22:17:43 GMT -5
What’s everyone’s favorite Mario Bava films?
I bought the two Anchor Bay DVD collections way back in October 2018. But haven’t really dived into them at all until recently.
I’ve seen most of his more well known work before but it’s been well over a decade. Tonight I watched Black Sabbath and that may be my favorite. It’s an anthology film with Boris Karloff so that fits my tastes perfectly.
Other than that I watched A Bay of Blood the night before. It deserves its place in history as being an influential early slasher and arguably the first true slasher. It also has some gore that outdoes the Friday the 13th series despite it coming out about a decade earlier. Speaking of Friday the 13th that series straight up rips off one of the kills. And the Bava version is bloodier! Unfortunately the actual plot is a convoluted mess.
Back in May I did a double feature of Lisa and the Devil and The House of Exorcism. The first was a passion project from Bava. The second is a reworked version of the same movie made to cash in on The Exorcist. IMDB counts them as two distinct movies and the plots are very different. But still bunches of scenes are identical in both movies. So how ever you feel about one, you’re likely to feel the same about the other.
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Post by DSR on Jul 2, 2021 22:24:37 GMT -5
What’s everyone’s favorite Mario Bava films? I’ve had the bought the two Anchor Bay DVD collections way back in October 2018. But haven’t really dived into them at all until recently. I’ve seen most of his more well known work before but it’s been well over a decade. Tonight I watched Black Sabbath and that may be my favorite. It’s an anthology film with Boris Karloff so that fits my tastes perfectly. Other than that I watched A Bay of Blood the night before. It deserves its place in history as being an influential early slasher and arguably the first true slasher. It also has some gore that outdoes the Friday the 13th series despite it coming out about a decade early. Speaking of Friday the 13th that series straight up rips off one of the kills. And the Bava version is bloodier! Unfortunately the actual plot is a convoluted mess. Back in May I did a double feature of Lisa and the Devil and The House of Exorcism. The first was a passion project from Bava. The second is a reworked version of the same movie made to cash in on The Exorcist. IMDB counts them as two distinct movies and the plots are very different. But still bunches of scenes are identical in both movies. So however you feel about one, you’re likely to feel the same about the other. I'll just quote a review I wrote back in October: HATCHET FOR THE HONEYMOON (1970) was a Spanish/Italian co-production directed by Mario Bava. Like my last reviewed film (QUANDO ALICE RUPPE LO SPECCHIO) this film features as its protagonist a psychotic individual. John feels compelled to kill women, either on their wedding night or while they are wearing bridal attire. He also happens to run a fashion house specializing in bridal attire, which makes this compulsion easier to fulfill. John has some lost memory of his mother, each kill gets him closer to piecing together what that memory was. John also has a bizarre marriage of his own; when he inherited the fashion house from his mother it was struggling. He married an older woman not for love, but for financial security, and she considers the marriage something of an investment. She takes sadistic glee in rubbing John's debt to her in his face, refusing to give him a divorce. One night John settles on getting rid of his unwanted wife in his usual style. Unfortunately for him, the wife that refused a divorce also refuses death! She haunts him day and night, oddly appearing to other people while he can't see her! John was already pretty crazy before his wife became a ghost, so how long can he evade police detection while she drives him further and further towards total madness? HATCHET is light on gore, but it's got an unhinged atmosphere. The subject matter helps a lot, but Bava makes excellent use of disorienting music, camera angles, and transitions. Scenes blur or cut together in a way that takes a second for you to process what happened while John's mind continues to unravel. There are moments that prefigure AMERICAN PSYCHO, like John giving a voice-over about his psychosis while grooming himself in the morning, or telling a woman he actually killed somebody and her believing him to be joking. This is my favorite Bava film (though admittedly I haven't seen all that many). Very cool.
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Post by adamclark52 on Jul 3, 2021 1:02:24 GMT -5
What’s everyone’s favorite Mario Bava films? I bought the two Anchor Bay DVD collections way back in October 2018. But haven’t really dived into them at all until recently. I’ve seen most of his more well known work before but it’s been well over a decade. Tonight I watched Black Sabbath and that may be my favorite. It’s an anthology film with Boris Karloff so that fits my tastes perfectly. Other than that I watched A Bay of Blood the night before. It deserves its place in history as being an influential early slasher and arguably the first true slasher. It also has some gore that outdoes the Friday the 13th series despite it coming out about a decade earlier. Speaking of Friday the 13th that series straight up rips off one of the kills. And the Bava version is bloodier! Unfortunately the actual plot is a convoluted mess. Back in May I did a double feature of Lisa and the Devil and The House of Exorcism. The first was a passion project from Bava. The second is a reworked version of the same movie made to cash in on The Exorcist. IMDB counts them as two distinct movies and the plots are very different. But still bunches of scenes are identical in both movies. So how ever you feel about one, you’re likely to feel the same about the other. Meh, none really
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Post by adamclark52 on Jul 3, 2021 1:02:40 GMT -5
The Inheritor* *DVD* I bought this on the strength of the trailer I saw last year on some other DVD being pretty grim and the cover being badass. It ended up being one of the most boring movies I’ve watched this year. It was advertised as a horror movie but it seemed to me to just be a shit-tier 1990’s straight-to-video psychological thriller that wasn’t thrilling at all. There was a part with some cool looking skeletons! I wish I knew what DVD I saw that trailer on so I could revisit it and see what I saw in it. I remember it looked like something from the late-1970’s grindhouse circuit. Very, very, very (did I say “very”?) disappointing.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Jul 3, 2021 2:59:19 GMT -5
With Bava it is a tie between Twitch of the Death Nerve and Planet of the Vampires. Seen most of his films and there isn't one I don't like. But those 2 are the ones I watch most often.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jul 3, 2021 8:46:16 GMT -5
What’s everyone’s favorite Mario Bava films? I bought the two Anchor Bay DVD collections way back in October 2018. But haven’t really dived into them at all until recently. I’ve seen most of his more well known work before but it’s been well over a decade. Tonight I watched Black Sabbath and that may be my favorite. It’s an anthology film with Boris Karloff so that fits my tastes perfectly. Other than that I watched A Bay of Blood the night before. It deserves its place in history as being an influential early slasher and arguably the first true slasher. It also has some gore that outdoes the Friday the 13th series despite it coming out about a decade earlier. Speaking of Friday the 13th that series straight up rips off one of the kills. And the Bava version is bloodier! Unfortunately the actual plot is a convoluted mess. Back in May I did a double feature of Lisa and the Devil and The House of Exorcism. The first was a passion project from Bava. The second is a reworked version of the same movie made to cash in on The Exorcist. IMDB counts them as two distinct movies and the plots are very different. But still bunches of scenes are identical in both movies. So how ever you feel about one, you’re likely to feel the same about the other. Meh, none really I’m curious how much of his filmography you’ve subjected yourself to? I can get why someone wouldn’t like his movies at all, but he directed a ton. Especially considering so much of it was crammed into that 1960-1977 period. If my counts correct he directed 26 films just in that time period, well over a movie a year. The point is you could watch 5 films from him and have nothing that great. The nice thing with Bava is before he was a director he was a top European cinematographer. So even his weaker films with plots that are eye rolling still have some beautiful images in them. In any case I’d highly recommend Black Sabbath. It’s much more like an Amicus anthology than a typical Bava work. Only with Bava behind the camera it has some seriously beautiful shot compositions. It made me think of Kwaidan watching it last night.
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Post by adamclark52 on Jul 3, 2021 11:35:32 GMT -5
I’m curious how much of his filmography you’ve subjected yourself to? I can get why someone wouldn’t like his movies at all, but he directed a ton. Especially considering so much of it was crammed into that 1960-1977 period. If my counts correct he directed 26 films just in that time period, well over a movie a year. The point is you could watch 5 films from him and have nothing that great. The nice thing with Bava is before he was a director he was a top European cinematographer. So even his weaker films with plots that are eye rolling still have some beautiful images in them. In any case I’d highly recommend Black Sabbath. It’s much more like an Amicus anthology than a typical Bava work. Only with Bava behind the camera it has some seriously beautiful shot compositions. It made me think of Kwaidan watching it last night. According to my IMDb profile I’ve only seen Bay of Blood which really just wasn’t my style. I should probably give it another shot some day. Susperia and Inferno are checked under his profile as movies I’ve seen too but obviously those weren’t his.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jul 3, 2021 12:19:07 GMT -5
I’m curious how much of his filmography you’ve subjected yourself to? I can get why someone wouldn’t like his movies at all, but he directed a ton. Especially considering so much of it was crammed into that 1960-1977 period. If my counts correct he directed 26 films just in that time period, well over a movie a year. The point is you could watch 5 films from him and have nothing that great. The nice thing with Bava is before he was a director he was a top European cinematographer. So even his weaker films with plots that are eye rolling still have some beautiful images in them. In any case I’d highly recommend Black Sabbath. It’s much more like an Amicus anthology than a typical Bava work. Only with Bava behind the camera it has some seriously beautiful shot compositions. It made me think of Kwaidan watching it last night. According to my IMDb profile I’ve only seen Bay of Blood which really just wasn’t my style. I should probably give it another shot some day. Susperia and Inferno are checked under his profile as movies I’ve seen too but obviously those weren’t his. IMDB lists him as doing uncredited camera/lighting work on Inferno of all things. And it also mentions he got a special thanks in both movies. I don’t know much about the productions of either but my guess is Dario Argento just brainstormed with him a few times. Bay of Blood kind of suffers from feeling too much like if Vince Russo booked a slasher. Just swerve after swerve. Parts of it are great and it was incredibly influential, but taken as a whole I can get why the plot would turn you off.
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Post by adamclark52 on Jul 3, 2021 15:40:14 GMT -5
Street Trash *bluray* If there’s a movie that lives up to its title it’s Street Trash. A movie so greasy that it makes the Toxic Avenger look classy. Everything gross you could imagine dialled to “11”. Technicolor melting, burping, farting, monkey in the middle with a penis, random puking and greatest chemistry you’ll ever see between James Lorinz (of Frankenhooker fame) and Tony Darrow as the doorman and the mob boss. Those two steal the movie. The ending is so f***ed up too. It just…ends.
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Post by mystermystery on Jul 3, 2021 17:24:20 GMT -5
Shudder recently added VICIOUS FUN and I loved this daggone film.
It's wonderfully done Horror Comedy following a mid-80s horror magazine writer who criticizes everything and thinks he could do it better than everyone else who also crushes hard on his roommate who obviously wants her own space. After this outright creepy jerk stalks her latest boyfriend so he can try and break them up, he finds himself in a weird situation with a support group meeting with an unusual addiction. Then the crazy truly starts.
Horror comedies are my jam and this is some good ol' jelly because besides the typical winking humor you'll find in a satiric horror film, there is a wonderfully done story of the outright unlikable main character learning lessons to become a better person who can move past his childish, selfish behavior.
Also, Robert "Kurrgan" Maillet is fantastic in his role.
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