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Post by eJm on Aug 13, 2012 22:19:15 GMT -5
I am starting to think people won't be happy until someone in a program with Triple H literally murders him, puts him 29ft. under ground, s***s on his grave, digs him up, reanimates the corpse, and beheads it on live TV to quell any fears of a Zombie Triple H coming back from burial to bury the living. The only time Hunter has gotten one up on Brock is when Brock made the save for Heyman. Every other time he's played Triple H like a fiddle, with him smirking like a jackass while Triple H is losing his mind over not being able to put down or stop Brock. Like usual with Triple H, it's little details. The only time Lesnar got a head up on Triple H was attacking him from behind. In their one true face-to-face encounter, Triple H disposed of him quickly. And the fact that HBK has to be brought in to be the vulnerable one says a lot. I know that Lesnar is a heel, but him running from Triple H scared just neuters everything that is supposedly "different" about him. It would be a lot more intriguing to me to see this more as "how in the bloody hell can Triple H stop this guy"? It doesn't feel that way. Exactly. He's supposed to be an unstoppable monster and shows as much against Cena but HHH comes sniffing around and suddenly all Brock can do is attack the guy from behind and run almost every time he's near? Are we seriously supposed to believe Brock still has his monster image when he's done about 2-3 things monster like?
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Post by Welfare Willis on Aug 13, 2012 22:19:45 GMT -5
I am starting to think people won't be happy until someone in a program with Triple H literally murders him, puts him 29ft. under ground, s***s on his grave, digs him up, reanimates the corpse, and beheads it on live TV to quell any fears of a Zombie Triple H coming back from burial to bury the living. Bravo sir...bravo. As a horror movie fan, that will never work.
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Post by Error on Aug 13, 2012 22:20:53 GMT -5
I am starting to think people won't be happy until someone in a program with Triple H literally murders him, puts him 29ft. under ground, s***s on his grave, digs him up, reanimates the corpse, and beheads it on live TV to quell any fears of a Zombie Triple H coming back from burial to bury the living. The only time Hunter has gotten one up on Brock is when Brock made the save for Heyman. Every other time he's played Triple H like a fiddle, with him smirking like a jackass while Triple H is losing his mind over not being able to put down or stop Brock. Like usual with Triple H, it's little details. The only time Lesnar got a head up on Triple H was attacking him from behind. In their one true face-to-face encounter, Triple H disposed of him quickly. And the fact that HBK has to be brought in to be the vulnerable one says a lot. I know that Lesnar is a heel, but him running from Triple H scared just neuters everything that is supposedly "different" about him. It would be a lot more intriguing to me to see this more as "how in the bloody hell can Triple H stop this guy"? It doesn't feel that way. Again though, the only time Triple H got one on Lesnar was when Lesnar was unprepared and Triple H attacked him as he slid into the ring. They have never gone head to head. When was Lesnar scared? The end when he was grinning knowing he just caused Triple H to lose his mind and had to have Heyman hold him back? They are building this up as a clash of titans and that leads more to Lesnar winning than "can Triple H stop Lesnar" would. This build is no different than the Undertaker/HHH build from WM this year and that was the best match of the year and Triple H lost.
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Post by eJm on Aug 13, 2012 22:21:51 GMT -5
Exactly. I love how people always say s*** like "wait and see" and it just gets worse. Nexus looking like crap...let's wait and see. Christian loses the WHC in a couple days...wait and see. Brock Lesnar loses to a bloodied beaten down Cena...let's wait and see the status quo continue. a part timer should not change the status quo of WWE/ And since neither Brock or Trips wrestles regularly this match will affect the status quo of WWE the same way it affected WWE when they brought in Steve Williams and let him wrestle a couple house shows against Lance Storm They are paying a guy $5 Million Dollars for 12 months to be like anyone else on the roster. No other company in the world would allow that to happen without shareholders wondering what in God's name is wrong with them.
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Post by mrjl on Aug 13, 2012 22:23:22 GMT -5
Like usual with Triple H, it's little details. The only time Lesnar got a head up on Triple H was attacking him from behind. In their one true face-to-face encounter, Triple H disposed of him quickly. And the fact that HBK has to be brought in to be the vulnerable one says a lot. I know that Lesnar is a heel, but him running from Triple H scared just neuters everything that is supposedly "different" about him. It would be a lot more intriguing to me to see this more as "how in the bloody hell can Triple H stop this guy"? It doesn't feel that way. Exactly. He's supposed to be an unstoppable monster and shows as much against Cena but HHH comes sniffing around and suddenly all Brock can do is attack the guy from behind and run almost every time he's near? Are we seriously supposed to believe Brock still has his monster image when he's done about 2-3 things monster like? I don't even watch horror movies and I know the monsters in them, as unstoppable as they are, do not step up and wait for the victims to come up them weapons ready. They're always behind them and closer then you think. you're asking for an athlete, a gladiator or soemthing. Brock is literally being a sadistic monster here.
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Post by Error on Aug 13, 2012 22:23:28 GMT -5
I am starting to think people won't be happy until someone in a program with Triple H literally murders him, puts him 29ft. under ground, s***s on his grave, digs him up, reanimates the corpse, and beheads it on live TV to quell any fears of a Zombie Triple H coming back from burial to bury the living. The only time Hunter has gotten one up on Brock is when Brock made the save for Heyman. Every other time he's played Triple H like a fiddle, with him smirking like a jackass while Triple H is losing his mind over not being able to put down or stop Brock. But that's not Brock. That's someone like Jake Roberts, or 2010 CM Punk. Brock is the guy who bloodied John Cena when he slapped him and came at him like an animal, the guy who negotiated whatever he wanted because he could, and stood toe to toe with John because he wanted to destroy him. All I want from Triple H is for him to put someone over besides Taker at Mania. That is Brock though. Remember 2003 when he got under the skin of people by attacking a one legged guy from behind and F5'ing him in the ringpost in front of the kids mother? Heel Brock is a giant jackass who takes pleasure in hurting people to get under people's skin.
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Post by mrjl on Aug 13, 2012 22:25:04 GMT -5
a part timer should not change the status quo of WWE/ And since neither Brock or Trips wrestles regularly this match will affect the status quo of WWE the same way it affected WWE when they brought in Steve Williams and let him wrestle a couple house shows against Lance Storm They are paying a guy $5 Million Dollars for 12 months to be like anyone else on the roster. No other company in the world would allow that to happen without shareholders wondering what in God's name is wrong with them. they're paying him 5 mill to put on high profile matches. Sports teams bring in rent a players all the time. He's supposed to do something a little better than the guys they have on the roster, but is not considered key to the long term.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2012 22:25:26 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar is one of my favorite guys. EVER. I was so amped for his return and the Extreme Rules match was great.. but damn every minute since.. has just about killed any interest I have in his return. I re-watched his return clip from April and it still gave me goosebumps how hard that crowd popped. Now... it's just over. might be one of my top five all-time favorite moments at this point.
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Post by RPD88 on Aug 13, 2012 22:25:56 GMT -5
But that's not Brock. That's someone like Jake Roberts, or 2010 CM Punk. Brock is the guy who bloodied John Cena when he slapped him and came at him like an animal, the guy who negotiated whatever he wanted because he could, and stood toe to toe with John because he wanted to destroy him. All I want from Triple H is for him to put someone over besides Taker at Mania. That is Brock though. Remember 2003 when he got under the skin of people by attacking a one legged guy from behind and F5'ing him in the ringpost in front of the kids mother? Heel Brock is a giant jackass who takes pleasure in hurting people to get under people's skin. He also attacked Undertaker from behind and broke his arm before Hell In a Cell in 2002.
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Post by mysterydriver on Aug 13, 2012 22:26:30 GMT -5
This whole feud was Trips getting attacked from behind and getting his arm broken.
Trips healing.
Trips calling Brock a coward for a month or so with a dash of Paul Heyman being awesome but ignored in recaps.
Brock Lesnar's big return ends with Triple H clashing with him in the middle of the ring and winning the encounter by knocking him out of the ring.
Then Brock continuously leaves the ring instead of confronting Triple H. This is supposed to build the "At Summerslam, it's on" but comes off more of "I'll get you next time, Gadget!"
Then tonight...he acts tough, but then signs his contract and leaves. Then, he has to attack Shawn Michaels from behind, breaks Shawn's arm...and immediately flees because he for some reason suddenly cares about contracts and Sunday.
Like someone said, it's the little things, and they all just kind of irk me.
I've used my "Brock Lesnar is a dragon" analogy before and, again, Trips is supposed to be the famed knight that everyone loves and respects for his famous battles...who the dragon is supposed to destroy with a single flame to establish his monster status. Right now, the WWE has had the famed knight poke the dragon in the eye multiple times and I just don't like it and no amount of "Oh, you just hate Triple H! That's all!" is going to change that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2012 22:26:32 GMT -5
To me, if you're constantly avoiding one one one confrontation, and the one time you finally have one you get knocked out of the ring and run away in 20 seconds, you're scared. That would never happen with Undertaker. The Mania build was nothing like this, I don't see the comparison at all.
Lesnar didn't run away from Cena, he attacked him and beat him down at will. But now that he's facing The Game, he's scared.
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Post by mrjl on Aug 13, 2012 22:26:38 GMT -5
That is Brock though. Remember 2003 when he got under the skin of people by attacking a one legged guy from behind and F5'ing him in the ringpost in front of the kids mother? Heel Brock is a giant jackass who takes pleasure in hurting people to get under people's skin. He also attacked Undertaker from behind and broke his arm before Hell In a Cell in 2002. and taunted him by calling his wife and bringing out a woman he supposedly had an affair with
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Post by trillionaireted on Aug 13, 2012 22:27:31 GMT -5
Forget the rest of that crap, Shawn Michaels has a skullet, my childhood died today.
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Post by eJm on Aug 13, 2012 22:28:44 GMT -5
They are paying a guy $5 Million Dollars for 12 months to be like anyone else on the roster. No other company in the world would allow that to happen without shareholders wondering what in God's name is wrong with them. they're paying him 5 mill to put on high profile matches. Sports teams bring in rent a players all the time. He's supposed to do something a little better than the guys they have on the roster, but is not considered key to the long term. This isn't a sport team, it's a form of entertainment specialising in pushing aspects that draw money for various reasons. If Brock isn't going to be any different from the guys you have, why pay the money to bring him in? Why not use the talent you have instead and do them right instead of neutralising a guy who you paid a lot for? It'd be like paying George Clooney to be in your movie and casting him as a coffee shop clerk for a 5 minute scene.
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Post by mizerable on Aug 13, 2012 22:30:53 GMT -5
a part timer should not change the status quo of WWE/ Rock says hi. But hey...we signed a big deal with Brock Lesnar, a very popular name in UFC, a guy who was a beast. Let's just have him lose, instead of say...go through Cena and Triple H and possibly someone else until we approach Wrestlemania, where he actually looks like he could end the streak, and comes very close to doing it. Nah....let's just worry about making the guys who have enough credibility like Cena and Triple H...let's make sure they get a little bit more, which they don't need.
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Post by Error on Aug 13, 2012 22:31:31 GMT -5
This whole feud was Trips getting attacked from behind and getting his arm broken. Trips healing. Trips calling Brock a coward for a month or so with a dash of Paul Heyman being awesome but ignored in recaps. Brock Lesnar's big return ends with Triple H clashing with him in the middle of the ring and winning the encounter by knocking him out of the ring. Then Brock continuously leaves the ring instead of confronting Triple H. This is supposed to build the "At Summerslam, it's on" but comes off more of "I'll get you next time, Gadget!" Then tonight...he acts tough, but then signs his contract and leaves. Then, he has to attack Shawn Michaels from behind, breaks Shawn's arm...and immediately flees because he for some reason suddenly cares about contracts and Sunday. Like someone said, it's the little things, and they all just kind of irk me. I've used my "Brock Lesnar is a dragon" analogy before and, again, Trips is supposed to be the famed knight that everyone loves and respects for his famous battles...who the dragon is supposed to destroy with a single flame to establish his monster status. Right now, the WWE has had the famed knight poke the dragon in the eye multiple times and I just don't like it and no amount of "Oh, you just hate Triple H! That's all!" is going to change that. But again, this is what Brock has always been. He's a jerk, he's a douche, he is the world's most dangerous prick. He was that as a heel in WWE the first time and in UFC. He's also got Heyman there directing him and telling him not to touch Triple H until Summerslam, shouting that during the contract signing and then holding him back at the end. The Brock we're seeing is the exact same Brock that showed up in 2003 and has been around the last near decade. People are acting like Trips already won the Summerslam match via Fingerpoke which is the most ridiculous part of this.
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Post by mrjl on Aug 13, 2012 22:32:20 GMT -5
they're paying him 5 mill to put on high profile matches. Sports teams bring in rent a players all the time. He's supposed to do something a little better than the guys they have on the roster, but is not considered key to the long term. This isn't a sport team, it's a form of entertainment specialising in pushing aspects that draw money for various reasons. If Brock isn't going to be any different from the guys you have, why pay the money to bring him in? Why not use the talent you have instead and do them right instead of neutralising a guy who you paid a lot for? It'd be like paying George Clooney to be in your movie and casting him as a coffee shop clerk for a 5 minute scene. I am fairly certain some movies have brought in big names just to kill them off early for the shock value. And other types of shows. I recall a movie with Jean Claude Van Damme and Kurt Russell in the 90s where one of them died quickly. The Rock voiced Cliffjumper for the first episode of Transformer Prime and was slaughtered. Brock comes in pre-built so can have any matches with anyone. Others will take time to build
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Post by mysterydriver on Aug 13, 2012 22:33:35 GMT -5
you're asking for an athlete, a gladiator or soemthing. Brock is literally being a sadistic monster here. An athlete you say? A gladiator you say? ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by eJm on Aug 13, 2012 22:34:57 GMT -5
This isn't a sport team, it's a form of entertainment specialising in pushing aspects that draw money for various reasons. If Brock isn't going to be any different from the guys you have, why pay the money to bring him in? Why not use the talent you have instead and do them right instead of neutralising a guy who you paid a lot for? It'd be like paying George Clooney to be in your movie and casting him as a coffee shop clerk for a 5 minute scene. I am fairly certain some movies have brought in big names just to kill them off early for the shock value. And other types of shows. I recall a movie with Jean Claude Van Damme and Kurt Russell in the 90s where one of them died quickly. The Rock voiced Cliffjumper for the first episode of Transformer Prime and was slaughtered. Brock comes in pre-built so can have any matches with anyone. Others will take time to build Yeah, and they got paid the amount for that from what has been said. There are rates for that stuff. I am talking about spending the majoirity of your budget on a cameo, which never happens because that'd be stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2012 22:35:12 GMT -5
Just gonna agree to disagree with those who think this feud has been anything other than total crap. Glad someone's enjoying it, haha.
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